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I'd like to call to order this regular

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meeting of the Bowler Valley School

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District for Tuesday, September 15th,

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2026. Board members may attend and

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participate in board meetings by

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electronic means in accordance with

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board policy, BMEA, and state law.

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Laura, can you please call the role?

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>> Booker,

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>> here.

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>> Chavez,

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>> here. Medler

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>> here.

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>> Quinn Linua

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>> here.

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>> Raj Paul

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>> here. Tamu Aing

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>> here.

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>> Anger

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>> here.

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>> Thank you. Like to encourage everyone to

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turn their attention to the screens for

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our land acknowledgement this morning.

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The Boulder Valley School District

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resides and operates on land that is the

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ancestral homeland and unjustly and

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illegally taken territory of the Ude,

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Pueblin, Arapjo, Cheyenne, Apache,

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Navajo, and 48 other tribal nations

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historically tied to this land who have

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called this land home since time and

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memorial.

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We acknowledge the atrocities committed

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here, including the painful history of

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genocide, forced assimilation, and

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efforts to alienate the indigenous

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inhabitants from their homeland,

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supported by the policies of the United

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States government.

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BBSD is aware of the many indigenous

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peoples, past and present, and their

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dignified nations and cultures, who care

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for this land with strength and

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resilience.

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BBD recognizes the histories of the land

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in Colorado and the survival of many

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nations that carried their oral

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traditions into the present.

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It is BBSD's responsibility to educate

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ourselves, our community, and our

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students so that we can embrace the

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wisdom and knowledge of indigenous

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peoples

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and actively stand together to address

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injustices.

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In offering this land acknowledgement,

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we affirm and honor the history, wisdom,

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oral traditions, and resilience of

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indigenous people, and recognize the

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responsibility to care for and

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appreciate this land together.

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I'd like to remind everyone that the

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mission of the Boulder Valley School

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District is to create challenging,

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meaningful, and engaging learning

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opportunities environments so that all

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children thrive and are prepared for

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successful civically engaged lives. Good

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morning everyone. Thanks for joining us

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here in person and for those of you who

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are watching this meeting remotely.

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We're always glad to have you observe

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and participate in our meetings. At this

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time, is there a motion to approve

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today's agenda? Moved by Deian, seconded

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by Jorge. Uh Laura, can you please call

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the role?

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>> Booker,

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>> yes.

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>> Chavez,

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>> yes.

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>> Medler,

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>> yes.

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>> Quinn Linua,

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>> yes.

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>> Raj Paul,

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>> yes.

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>> Teamu adding,

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>> yes.

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Anger.

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>> Yes.

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>> Motion passes.

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>> Board members, as you know, today we

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have a work session, a study opportunity

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for one item. This meeting was

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originally planned to discuss our

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strategic plan update. Um, and given the

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extent of community feedback that we

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received last meeting, we have decided

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to replace that topic with another study

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of the resilient schools framework. and

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the draft resolution number 26-27

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when we were discussing making that

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shift. One thing that I just really came

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to me is

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when we started our work with the

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strategic plan, there were a lot of

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significant changes that were really

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hard hard for our staff to incorporate,

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hard for the system to incorporate. And

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through that work,

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um, we have made some outstanding

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improvements for our schools. Being

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credited with distinction for three

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years in a row was not without great

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effort, um, and faith, trust that we

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would do what's best for students. And

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so, um, while I am saddened that we

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couldn't get an update on that because

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it has been a lot of hard work and it's

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something we're celebrating, I do think

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it's really important to give a little

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bit more time to our community um to go

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through some of the questions that came

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up during our last board meeting on this

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resil resilient school proposal. And

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with that, I will hand this meeting over

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to Dr. Anderson.

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>> Thank you, board president Raj Paul,

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board members. Um, I want to start by by

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thanking the folks that are here with us

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today, folks that are watching online.

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um and really appreciate our board

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listening to our community and making

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this adjustment. So, we had an

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opportunity to get in a little more

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detail in terms of some of the community

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questions that we've received through

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our forums, through email

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communications, both to the board and

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individual board members, um and through

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the uh five plus hours of public comment

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that we uh heard last Tuesday.

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So board members, as you can see, um

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today we will we'll go we'll do a bit of

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a deeper dive in some of the proposals

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answering questions. Encourage board

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members ask questions that you have

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today. Um based on those questions, then

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the proposal will go to uh to to the

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board for action at our meeting

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scheduled for September 22nd. And so

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this is an additional um session based

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on community feedback and board

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direction to provide more detail into

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some of the outstanding questions and

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hope to be able to clarify that for for

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many of the members of our community

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and this is what I just shared. Um

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before I I uh move forward uh board

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members and community members we have uh

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most of our senior team here at the dis

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in our work session today. Uh Rob Price,

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assistant superintendent of operations,

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Glenn Sigru, our senior planner. Neil

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Anderson, assistant superintendent of

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schools. Emma Herszog, chief academic

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officer. Uh Nativity Miller, deputy

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superintendent, Bill Sutter, CFO, Randy

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Barber, chief communications officer,

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and Jessica Azine, our executive

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director of accountability evaluation.

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And as we present, uh today, uh board

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members, we'll be bringing up additional

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members of our team uh to provide the

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expertise that you'll need to be able to

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ask the questions that you have around

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other topics as well. uh to make sure

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that um that that your questions are

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answered as you consider this proposal.

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Um I'll close this introduction with

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knowing and understanding that um and

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and and the appreciation for the level

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of engagement of our community on this

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proposal, the level of questions, the

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level of detail in those questions. And

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so we look forward to today to be able

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to to begin to bring some clarification,

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bring bring some things to light that

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folks may maybe not have realized as

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they were trying to analyze what it is

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we presented on the 25th. um and make

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sure that the board has your questions

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answered in what I know is a really

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really difficult decision uh for the

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board to take uh next Tuesday. So with

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that, I'm turning the presentation over

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to assistant superintendent of

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operations Rob Price.

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>> Rob, one quick thing. Board members,

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there are a lot of slides and I'm just

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trying to kind of think through how to

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like logical places for pausing and

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asking questions. We want all those

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questions to be answered. My thinking is

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if we can get through the methodology,

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pause for questions, look at the data,

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pause for questions, and so because this

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first section is pretty is quite long

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before we get to a discussion slide. So

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after the methodology slides, we'll ask

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questions and then if that's okay and if

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it's not, let me know. Thanks.

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>> Sounds good. Thank you, Dr. Anderson.

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Good morning, President Rashall, members

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of the board. Uh we're just going to

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spend a little time this morning

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revisiting how we made our decisions.

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And as uh the proposal that we presented

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to you on August 25th did not begin with

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a list of schools and we've continued to

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see that around the country. This work

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has really grown out of several years of

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board direction um analysis by our long

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range advisory committee. Uh we've

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monitored, we've analyzed enrollment,

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we've engaged the community, and we've

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considered multiple options, all

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presented to you on August 25th.

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Throughout all of this work, uh we have

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kept our focus centered on the student

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experience and providing a high quality

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and equitable learning experience to all

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students and to manage district district

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resources in a fiscally responsible uh

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manner.

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The long range advisory committee began

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its work in 2022 following the board

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prioritizing this work understanding the

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challenges that declining enrollment was

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presenting to the district and from the

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beginning and as I just mentioned we've

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been centered on the student experience

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the most important metric that we have

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followed is the number of or the average

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number of classes per grade level and

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for planning purposes you can see it

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here at the bottom of the slide one

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round is 25 students students in each

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grade or about 150 students across a K5

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school. That has come up on a number of

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occasions. So, we want to make sure that

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is understood by our community. Uh the

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committee then determined that when

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enrollment is equal to or less than two

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classes per grade level, schools feel

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the impacts of declining enrollment. LRA

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also considered utilization. Uh classes

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per grade level really helped us

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understand the student experience.

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utilization helped us understand uh

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operational efficiencies and that

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utilization accounts for different size

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of school buildings. Um the metrics uh

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as we have presented to the board on a

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number of occasions really was just an

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early warning system. Uh LRA um also if

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you remember emphasized the need for

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geographic uh consideration. So looking

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at regions, we're looking at multiple

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schools at once uh within the same

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communities. Um the timeline over on the

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right side shows the steps we've taken

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to study enrollment policies, attendance

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boundaries. We looked at a number of

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ways to increase enrollment to avoid

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this difficult conversation. And like

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many districts, we have not been able to

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change the enrollment patterns just due

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to the underlying demographic uh trends

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that we have been seeing here in Boulder

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Valley School District.

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By the fall of 20ou 2025, enrollment

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showed that by 2030, more than half of

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our elementary school schools in

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Boulder, Lewisville, and Spirior, and

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Broomfield were all projected to operate

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at or below two classes per grade level.

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And at the same time, school leaders,

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teachers, families, uh, were all

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reporting the effects of declining

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enrollment. And I remember that

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conversation coming up many times at

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this board DAS about the challenges that

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we were faced with in some of our

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smaller schools. And for years, we

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figured out how to make it work. And Dr.

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Anderson has talked about this. We have

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pushed in resources.

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And that was workable when we had a few

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small schools. It is not sustainable

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when the majority of your schools are

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small. We're not funded like that. We're

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funded on a per pupil basis. And based

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on those underlying challenges, it was

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during the October 2025 work session.

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The board directed us to change course.

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Uh that is when you had said let's not

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address this on a school by school

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basis. We need to address this on a

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regional approach with multiple schools

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to look at. So that direction led then

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to the development of the community

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engagement plan that we presented to you

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in January. We then started engaging our

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staff immediately. Dr. Anderson, Dr. De

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La Cruz went out, met with all of our

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teachers during roundt meetings. Uh we

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then had at six community engagement

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sessions and then at seventh I guess at

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the Coline community engagement session

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and then as we had stated we met as a

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staff over the summer to develop options

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and then based on those options we

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brought our proposal back to you uh on

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August 25th um as stated in the timeline

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that we originally presented to you back

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in the fall.

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I'm going to present this slide one more

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time. I bet I have presented this slide

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30 or 40 times

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um since October, right?

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I've presented this during our community

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engagement sessions. I've presented this

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at least three different board meetings.

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I've presented this at every municip

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every every presentation municipalities

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uh district advisory committees. I think

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we had 14 of those and in a number of

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written communications that have went

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out to the community. So, I'm a bit

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surprised why everybody is surprised

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with the uh option or the proposal that

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we brought forward to you. The proposal

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is within alignment with all of the

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options that we told the board we would

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consider. So, uh what we um consistently

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communicated was this full range of

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tools that districts use throughout the

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country when they're dealing with

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declining enrollment. As I talked about,

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districts go through the same thing.

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They find out how how to make it work.

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They push in resources. Then they shift

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to let's figure out how we can increase

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enrollment. We did that. We had the BBSD

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this place to be showcased. We tried to

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generate additional enrollment. We have

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a commuter preference that we no longer

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had. We slowed declining enrollment for

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a bit, but again, there is no way to

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address the underlying demographic

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trends. The housing prices that we're

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seeing in Boulder Valley School

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District. Young families can no longer

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afford to live here, right? and that's

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why we're seeing what we're seeing. So

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again, just for clarification, the

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resilient schools proposal that we

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presented to you on August 25th utilized

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the options on this slide. And again, a

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lot of these options were prioritized by

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our community during the community

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engagement sessions and during some of

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the surveying and polling that we did.

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Um, and with that, I'll turn it over to

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Randy Barber.

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So, following the board's direction, as

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as Rob mentioned, as well as the plan

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that we uh brought to you in January of

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2026, uh we hit the road. Um our

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philosophy has been listening before

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leading. Uh we wanted to first connect

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with our elementary school staff, so our

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principles, our teachers, and staff at

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those schools through roundts. Um you've

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seen the slide before, but now with a

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little bit more uh imagery, just again,

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we were out there, we've got uh we've

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got photographic proof of that.

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um 14 presentations, advisory groups, a

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lot of the places that that Rob was

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talking about where we presented this

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the plan, talked through the different

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options that we had for folks. Uh we did

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the same at the seven engagement

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sessions that he mentioned and we went

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to our city councils. We really wanted

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to make sure that our m municipalities

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were aware uh really be being following

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along with what's going on here.

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Obviously, these things are going to

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impact our cities and we wanted to make

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sure that they had an opportunity to

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hear what our our game plan was and in

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some cases they provided some feedback

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to us in in regards to their thoughts on

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it.

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Next slide. Oh, and then we also had a

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survey that we'll talk about as well.

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Uh, a big part of this was

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communication. So, since the beginning

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of the the process with LLR, uh, I think

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we've got something like 30 stories that

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we've done on the district side of

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things in regards to this process. every

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time that we had an update, we were

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coming back to the community and letting

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them know where we were at. As we went

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through the attendance boundaries, we

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were doing stories upon that. And then,

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of course, things really ramped up after

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that January plan came out right in

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February. Uh and since then, uh we have

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been uh doing uh updates uh to the

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community through a newsletter uh seven

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of those uh throughout throughout time.

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uh those were really action-packed with

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with all the information that we're

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talking about the plan uh opportunities

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for engagement, really encouraging

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people to participate. We were really

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reaching out to folks, letting them know

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about the regional approach to it,

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letting folks know again about the

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options that we had on the table here.

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Uh we also had a good amount of uh

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earned media coverage. Um you know,

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throughout uh our all of our media

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outlets in the the Metro Denver area,

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they've covered it. uh but most

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specifically our local paper of course

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would be the heaviest uh with seven

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stories uh covering both the regional

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and the options that we had on the

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table. So uh that has been out there in

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the community uh as we've been talking

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through it. I do want to just mention

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that this this work for my team uh while

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we've done a lot of things uh that are

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that are tough. Uh we obviously had the

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Marshall fire that was uh you know

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incredibly hard in terms of crisis

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communication. Uh we went through the

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pandemic and that communication was

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incredibly hard. Um this was a whole new

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area of uh of learning for us. Uh you

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know we had never uh gone through a

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closure uh like this and so with the

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board's suggestion um we were able to um

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bring in a couple consultants to give us

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a hand with this. Uh Planfully is a is a

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a couple ladies that have gone through

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this at Jeffco uh through Jeffco public

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schools uh had really lived through the

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process and they're communication focus.

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So, you know, they were able to give us

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some real insights into how to best

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approach community relations in this

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instance, uh the kinds of communications

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that would be needed uh through this.

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And then um on the back end, uh uh once

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the decision was made, we brought them

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back in to be able to have some

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conversations and actually give us a an

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extra pair of hands in drafting some of

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the communications that we used. uh as

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you can imagine there's quite a bit of

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things that we had to prepare and so

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having some extra uh communication folks

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um you know at our ready was really

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helpful to my to my team. Additionally

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and I I know everybody in the community

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that came out to our engagement sessions

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saw the work of ERS but I want to really

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uh highlight uh what their what their

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role was in this. As we went into those

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engagement sessions our team was really

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thinking about you know we didn't want

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this to be the normal uh feedback

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sessions that we had 20 years ago. We

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didn't want this to be what we see

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around the country. We wanted to do

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something different. And so again, with

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that idea of listening before leading,

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we our philosophy was a how do we

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introduce folks to the information that

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we're talking about? Uh give them a

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sense of what it's like to be in these

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schools when you've got uh students and

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staff that are being impacted by

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declining enrollment. That's, you know,

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tough. I mean, we could showed a video.

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We could have done a number of things,

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but by giving uh them exercises in order

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to see what that feels like, uh it was

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really helpful. a whole lot of parents,

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you know, could kind of really then

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understand uh kind of visualize what

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that experience was like. And then we

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really put them in the driver's seat and

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thinking about these different options

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and having uh throughout the process

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we've said that one of the big things

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that we really wanted to hear and

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something that uh Jessica is going to

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talk about in a minute is really, you

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know, we wanted to be able to hear from

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folks what their priorities, their

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values, you know, how they were looking

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at these things, the things that really

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were most important to them. And so at

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these tables and it was I I find amazing

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to watch the engagement that happened

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here. Uh parents uh some students we had

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a a small number of students come out.

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Um they were really debating and

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weighing these different things and I

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think everybody that came to these

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sessions said you know there was it's

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difficult work. I mean we'd like to

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prioritize all the things that we're

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thinking about here. And I think that's

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the difficulty that we as a as a

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district have. And so these cards that

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they created, the tabletop exercises

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really help people to be able to have

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that experience of of being part of the

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process, thinking through these things.

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And then part of this was actually

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trying to encapsulate trying to

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understand and document that feedback.

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And so of course we had our principles

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at the tables. And so they were

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facilitating this and writing down what

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they were hearing. And then each of the

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participants was able to in a packet be

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00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.520
able to write down their feedback as

549
00:35:11.520 --> 00:35:16.320
well. And so all that was captured and

550
00:35:13.520 --> 00:35:18.160
then ERS took that data, compilated it,

551
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:20.960
tabulated it, and then was able to hand

552
00:35:18.160 --> 00:35:23.520
it off to us. Uh before I hand it off to

553
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:25.440
uh Jessica Aine, our executive director

554
00:35:23.520 --> 00:35:27.359
of accountability and evaluation to talk

555
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.280
more about how that process worked once

556
00:35:27.359 --> 00:35:30.560
the data was handed off, I do want to

557
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.839
just make a really important point,

558
00:35:30.560 --> 00:35:33.520
especially based on some of the feedback

559
00:35:31.839 --> 00:35:35.680
that we've heard in the community, that

560
00:35:33.520 --> 00:35:37.440
neither of these two consultants, truly

561
00:35:35.680 --> 00:35:39.040
no consultants were in the room when we

562
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.480
were making these decisions as

563
00:35:39.040 --> 00:35:44.079
leadership team. uh we came together um

564
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.400
you know that work had already been done

565
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.920
in regards to the engagement and uh in

566
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.599
those rooms it was district leadership

567
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.599
that was really weighing considering the

568
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.960
data and then making those decisions. So

569
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.800
the the consultants were not part of

570
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.119
that.

571
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:58.800
Just one other point, board members. Um,

572
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:02.079
and thank you, Randy, and thank you,

573
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:04.000
Rob, um, for sharing. You know, in my

574
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.599
nine years here as superintendent, I

575
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.520
don't know that there's been any topic

576
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:09.760
or any moment in time where our

577
00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:11.440
community has had more opportunities for

578
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.440
engagement and communication from the

579
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:16.880
district than the process that we just

580
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:19.280
went through. Um, uh, Dr. Dr. Alzine

581
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:22.079
will will talk you through the the the

582
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:24.720
statistical analyses that we we were

583
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:27.599
able to recover as a result of that. But

584
00:36:24.720 --> 00:36:30.480
board members, we anyone and everyone

585
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:32.240
who wanted to participate in um in these

586
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.720
processes in these work sessions, we

587
00:36:32.240 --> 00:36:36.400
accommodated uh we shifted venues just

588
00:36:34.720 --> 00:36:38.800
like we did last week when we knew that

589
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:41.119
we had more folks that wanted to talk to

590
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:43.680
us than we potentially had room to be

591
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:47.200
able to to accommodate in a way that was

592
00:36:43.680 --> 00:36:49.920
respectful and meaningful. Um, we

593
00:36:47.200 --> 00:36:51.440
originally planned having these sessions

594
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:54.000
in libraries, then we moved them to

595
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:56.560
gymnasiums. And I just want to thank our

596
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:59.839
team for all of the things that they did

597
00:36:56.560 --> 00:37:02.720
to make those um those opportunities a

598
00:36:59.839 --> 00:37:04.720
reality. But it gave us really clarity

599
00:37:02.720 --> 00:37:06.000
on our community as a whole, what

600
00:37:04.720 --> 00:37:09.119
they're looking for from their

601
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:11.440
elementary school student experience.

602
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.040
uh the the data and you'll see as we

603
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.720
talk about the survey data and we talk

604
00:37:13.040 --> 00:37:16.960
about the community polling data and we

605
00:37:14.720 --> 00:37:20.800
talk about the teacher data that we

606
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:23.119
collected uh triangulated in a way that

607
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:25.200
gave us a really clear picture on what

608
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:29.200
it is we were trying to do as we began

609
00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:31.040
to develop this proposal. Uh so I I I'll

610
00:37:29.200 --> 00:37:33.119
share that I'm very proud of the process

611
00:37:31.040 --> 00:37:34.640
that we used. I will share that I'm

612
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:37.440
proud of the ways that we tried to

613
00:37:34.640 --> 00:37:40.480
communicate and I think the trick with

614
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.240
communications is and even engagement is

615
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.480
to the extent that you can put forth the

616
00:37:42.240 --> 00:37:46.800
best effort, it doesn't mean that it's

617
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:49.040
100% guarantee that that everybody is

618
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.800
able to participate or is is able to

619
00:37:49.040 --> 00:37:52.800
engage in that. And that's just human

620
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:55.280
nature and that's just kind of I think

621
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.280
the reality in any big decision that

622
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:58.480
that school districts make is that you

623
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:00.320
know we're going to put for our best

624
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:03.119
foot forward and really try to do what

625
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:05.280
we can. But I will say that uh the ways

626
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:09.599
in which we engaged the process that we

627
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:12.240
used uh I think was was really a a great

628
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.160
opportunity for lots in our community to

629
00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:15.839
learn about our challenges. That's one

630
00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:17.440
thing to say watch board meetings. It's

631
00:38:15.839 --> 00:38:18.560
another thing to come and sit for three

632
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.640
three and a half hours with a

633
00:38:18.560 --> 00:38:22.079
facilitator know and understand the

634
00:38:20.640 --> 00:38:23.599
experiences that are happening across

635
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:26.640
the district that might not be your own

636
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:28.400
experience. Right? that that that you

637
00:38:26.640 --> 00:38:30.079
know as as we solve for these things we

638
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.440
have individual experiences and then we

639
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.000
have the collective experiences that

640
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.920
we're trying to provide. So um I will

641
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:38.880
say that that the feedback that we

642
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:40.480
received at the end of those of of these

643
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.839
um these sessions was incredibly

644
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.280
positive board members. You were there

645
00:38:41.839 --> 00:38:44.640
you heard what I heard. folks were

646
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.440
really appreciative that we listened and

647
00:38:44.640 --> 00:38:50.160
heard and so um just as establishing

648
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:52.720
that that those that that engagement

649
00:38:50.160 --> 00:38:55.440
that data that feedback very very

650
00:38:52.720 --> 00:38:56.079
important as we developed our proposal.

651
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.760
So

652
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:59.040
>> before we turn it over to Dr. Elian I

653
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:02.640
wanted to see if board members had any

654
00:38:59.040 --> 00:39:07.599
questions on the timeline u methodology

655
00:39:02.640 --> 00:39:10.599
up until this point of the presentation.

656
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.599
Elena,

657
00:39:11.680 --> 00:39:16.480
>> first I appreciate the clarification on

658
00:39:14.240 --> 00:39:20.240
consultants. I've had a lot of questions

659
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:25.920
on that. Um, so thank you for sharing

660
00:39:20.240 --> 00:39:30.400
that. Um, and I'm curious on

661
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:33.839
the timeline. Did we ever change the

662
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:37.400
timeline for voting on this? Did we ever

663
00:39:33.839 --> 00:39:37.400
move it up?

664
00:39:39.359 --> 00:39:43.760
I I I just I can't remember and I and I

665
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.520
didn't know if there was the answer to

666
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.280
that is yes. the answer to that. Can you

667
00:39:45.520 --> 00:39:49.200
just explain to me? I thought maybe it

668
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.880
was an open enrollment thing, but I

669
00:39:49.200 --> 00:39:54.720
>> No, we we had originally um shared I

670
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:56.720
think it was October 8th for the vote

671
00:39:54.720 --> 00:39:59.040
and in board discussion. I think some

672
00:39:56.720 --> 00:40:01.119
really valid points were brought up on

673
00:39:59.040 --> 00:40:02.960
um the potentially negative impact that

674
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:04.240
could have on individual families as

675
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.240
they were trying to access our open

676
00:40:04.240 --> 00:40:08.400
enrollment process that that window

677
00:40:06.240 --> 00:40:09.440
would be too tight. And as a result, to

678
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:11.599
make sure that we're supporting

679
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.839
families, given, you know, the the

680
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:16.240
magnitude of this decision, the board

681
00:40:13.839 --> 00:40:17.599
elected to move that back to the 22nd.

682
00:40:16.240 --> 00:40:19.119
And I believe that was at the June 9th

683
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:20.560
board meeting.

684
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.480
>> Yeah, it was during the board work

685
00:40:20.560 --> 00:40:24.400
session, our prioritization meeting.

686
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:26.720
>> And I'm certain I was at that session,

687
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:29.200
but I did not remember that when someone

688
00:40:26.720 --> 00:40:32.880
asked me that. Um, though I assumed it

689
00:40:29.200 --> 00:40:35.839
was about open enrollment and and that

690
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:38.640
window there. Okay. Thank you,

691
00:40:35.839 --> 00:40:38.640
>> Deian.

692
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:44.960
because I'm a relative newcomer on the

693
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:46.560
board, I uh kind of walked in and some

694
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.839
of these decisions were sort of in

695
00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:53.280
progress. And so if I'm asking questions

696
00:40:49.839 --> 00:40:56.079
that are just um history that happened

697
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:59.119
right before December last year, please

698
00:40:56.079 --> 00:41:02.480
uh help me fill in the blanks. Um when

699
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:04.640
the decision was made to go to a

700
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:06.400
regional approach

701
00:41:04.640 --> 00:41:10.079
um

702
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:13.560
how were those regions defined and who

703
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:13.560
defined them?

704
00:41:13.680 --> 00:41:18.640
Well, the regions were well one of the

705
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.520
outcomes from the October meeting was

706
00:41:18.640 --> 00:41:23.280
the board had told us that allowing

707
00:41:21.520 --> 00:41:26.000
schools to stay small is no longer an

708
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:28.960
option. And by that time long range

709
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:30.240
advisory committee had uh presented two

710
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.079
different metrics and those are the

711
00:41:30.240 --> 00:41:35.440
metrics are average classes per grade

712
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.359
level and then the utilization. So

713
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.079
average classes per grade level we knew

714
00:41:37.359 --> 00:41:41.760
that uh the student experience was being

715
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.680
impacted when they got less than two

716
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.920
rounds. So that defined what a small

717
00:41:43.680 --> 00:41:48.319
school was is anything equal to or less

718
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.240
than two classes per grade level. So we

719
00:41:48.319 --> 00:41:51.760
knew that allowing schools to stay small

720
00:41:50.240 --> 00:41:54.160
was no longer an option. So then we

721
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:55.839
looked at the different regions and in

722
00:41:54.160 --> 00:41:58.079
those regions, Boulder, Lewisville,

723
00:41:55.839 --> 00:41:59.760
Spear, and Broomfield, at least half or

724
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:02.240
the majority of the schools in those

725
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.640
regions are at or below two classes per

726
00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:06.960
grade level. So that's what defined it.

727
00:42:04.640 --> 00:42:09.680
We saw some growth in Erie. We saw some

728
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:11.520
growth in Lafayette. And then the

729
00:42:09.680 --> 00:42:13.200
mountain schools were not included just

730
00:42:11.520 --> 00:42:16.880
due to their unique geographic

731
00:42:13.200 --> 00:42:20.720
locations. So,

732
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:24.240
>> uh follow-up question would be um so the

733
00:42:20.720 --> 00:42:27.520
regions were um

734
00:42:24.240 --> 00:42:31.920
uh were set really by geography

735
00:42:27.520 --> 00:42:34.319
>> and yet it appears that there a region

736
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.079
that would have included all the

737
00:42:34.319 --> 00:42:38.079
students that are all of the schools

738
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:40.880
that are trying to do second language

739
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:45.280
instruction that they were sort of not

740
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.280
in a region because they're separate.

741
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.839
We're going to speak um in more detail

742
00:42:49.680 --> 00:42:53.520
on on the recommendation to study this

743
00:42:51.839 --> 00:42:55.760
the schools that are in dual language.

744
00:42:53.520 --> 00:42:57.359
Uh you when we did not identify

745
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:59.200
Lafayette, you'd be correct that we

746
00:42:57.359 --> 00:43:02.000
would then not have been able to

747
00:42:59.200 --> 00:43:04.880
consider Pioneer or Anjivine Middle

748
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:08.160
School. We also limited this to the K8

749
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:10.400
uh schools in um in Lewisville Superior

750
00:43:08.160 --> 00:43:11.920
and elementary schools. And so Casey

751
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:14.240
Middle School, Manhattan Middle School

752
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:17.040
also wouldn't be part of of this

753
00:43:14.240 --> 00:43:20.079
analysis. And so uh challenging because

754
00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:21.839
certainly um two of our dual language

755
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:24.720
elementary schools are are in the middle

756
00:43:21.839 --> 00:43:27.440
of Boulder. Um but we will speak to kind

757
00:43:24.720 --> 00:43:29.760
of more detail on in regards of why we

758
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:32.720
we recommended to take a year to study

759
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:35.520
that. um really studying that as a K8

760
00:43:32.720 --> 00:43:37.599
continuum, not just elementary schools.

761
00:43:35.520 --> 00:43:39.680
And really thinking about systemically

762
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:42.640
the experience, the student experience

763
00:43:39.680 --> 00:43:44.480
that we want our students who are

764
00:43:42.640 --> 00:43:46.960
studying or participating in dual

765
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:49.520
language program schools to have. And

766
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:51.920
through the engagement process we had,

767
00:43:49.520 --> 00:43:54.480
uh there wasn't specificity around dual

768
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:56.960
language schools and programs. uh and

769
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:58.640
their instruction and their experience

770
00:43:56.960 --> 00:44:00.240
is vastly different from students that

771
00:43:58.640 --> 00:44:03.720
are in our monolingual schools that just

772
00:44:00.240 --> 00:44:03.720
teach in English.

773
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:11.119
>> Anna,

774
00:44:08.720 --> 00:44:12.720
thank you. And for a timeline, one of

775
00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:17.440
the biggest pieces of feedback that I've

776
00:44:12.720 --> 00:44:20.000
received is um folks did see the uh LRAK

777
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:23.440
recommendations that uh kept coming out

778
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:25.280
on um school consolidations and where we

779
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:27.839
were at in elementary schools. And I

780
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:31.520
think that some of the the community

781
00:44:27.839 --> 00:44:34.400
members um that really showed up to our

782
00:44:31.520 --> 00:44:36.720
community engagement sessions were of

783
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:39.359
the schools that were in the red that

784
00:44:36.720 --> 00:44:42.240
had some of that notice put into some of

785
00:44:39.359 --> 00:44:45.760
those plans. Um

786
00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:48.319
and now that we have announced the the

787
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:51.359
consolidations that we are looking into,

788
00:44:48.319 --> 00:44:55.040
I wonder uh my my biggest question is

789
00:44:51.359 --> 00:44:58.319
where that shift happened of um looking

790
00:44:55.040 --> 00:45:01.200
at the recommendations of ELRACK um and

791
00:44:58.319 --> 00:45:03.280
then switching to what we have now um

792
00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:06.560
within that timeline for community

793
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:09.119
engagement. Um just getting a clearer

794
00:45:06.560 --> 00:45:11.920
sense of what when that shift happened.

795
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:15.280
Um, and I know that right uh right now

796
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:17.599
is that that moment of uh where our

797
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:21.359
community members are able to give um

798
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:24.480
that feedback on our proposal. Um, but I

799
00:45:21.359 --> 00:45:27.440
also just want to go back to acknowledge

800
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:29.920
um just the fact that some of these

801
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:34.079
parents um and community members,

802
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:38.800
families um hadn't engaged as much

803
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:42.640
because they weren't um considering that

804
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:44.560
they were going to be uh put in this

805
00:45:42.640 --> 00:45:47.040
proposal for a consolidation or a

806
00:45:44.560 --> 00:45:49.119
closure.

807
00:45:47.040 --> 00:45:52.880
>> Uh thank you for those questions. A

808
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:55.920
couple clarifying points. Um,

809
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:58.400
we had broad community participation at

810
00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:03.119
Broomfield High School, at Boulder High

811
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:05.359
School, here at the Ed Center. Um, we

812
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.880
Monarch High School, uh, gymnasiums

813
00:46:05.359 --> 00:46:08.960
filled with individuals and they were

814
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:11.760
not limited to the schools that were

815
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:14.720
identified in the in the engagement

816
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:18.319
phase. um in the LRAK metrics that we

817
00:46:14.720 --> 00:46:20.560
released as part of the annual report um

818
00:46:18.319 --> 00:46:22.960
on LRAK declining enrollment annual

819
00:46:20.560 --> 00:46:26.640
trends report that is per board policy

820
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:29.520
that we presented every February. And so

821
00:46:26.640 --> 00:46:31.359
um because we would only have had two uh

822
00:46:29.520 --> 00:46:33.599
small elementary schools participating

823
00:46:31.359 --> 00:46:35.599
if that would have been the case. And so

824
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:37.520
um I do understand that that there are

825
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.960
some folks who didn't participate in

826
00:46:37.520 --> 00:46:43.119
that opportunity or maybe didn't

827
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:45.520
participate in our surveys um that um

828
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:48.400
that at this point uh maybe didn't

829
00:46:45.520 --> 00:46:51.119
realize the u the magnitude of that of

830
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:53.359
that opportunity. And uh this is why we

831
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:55.920
went through what what Randy shared

832
00:46:53.359 --> 00:46:57.599
which is uh you know we we were we're

833
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:59.599
sending monthly updates to all of our

834
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:01.359
families in communications. We weren't

835
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:03.200
we weren't hiding the fact that this was

836
00:47:01.359 --> 00:47:04.960
a regional approach. It was very much

837
00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:08.240
front and center on why we were actually

838
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:10.160
doing the engagement process. Uh and in

839
00:47:08.240 --> 00:47:12.079
any engagement session uh not every

840
00:47:10.160 --> 00:47:14.079
parent participated, right? We had we

841
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.599
had a pretty good showing thousands you

842
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:17.760
know thousand people. I mean I think

843
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:18.960
that you know when Jessica will speak

844
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.520
you know when you look at all the

845
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:24.319
individual data points 76,000 data

846
00:47:21.520 --> 00:47:26.560
points which we feel is a a really

847
00:47:24.319 --> 00:47:29.599
strong sample and we'll talk about that.

848
00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:32.400
Uh so uh so so there are people who

849
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:34.240
didn't participate in that right but if

850
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.920
they were to have participated without

851
00:47:34.240 --> 00:47:38.079
knowing their school is named would they

852
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.839
have said anything differently than the

853
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:42.000
sample size that we collected from all

854
00:47:39.839 --> 00:47:44.800
of these communities. The data we've

855
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:47.200
suggested is is incredibly triangulated

856
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:50.319
and clear. It's not really fuzzy at all.

857
00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:52.160
Uh so that process wasn't about

858
00:47:50.319 --> 00:47:54.880
individual schools and it wasn't an

859
00:47:52.160 --> 00:47:56.560
engagement process per LRACK. that was a

860
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:58.160
community engagement process on the

861
00:47:56.560 --> 00:48:03.359
student experience and I think that we

862
00:47:58.160 --> 00:48:05.440
were incredibly clear about that. So um

863
00:48:03.359 --> 00:48:07.920
and and as Rob shared, you know, we've

864
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:11.359
really tried to engage in ways that are

865
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:15.040
very honest and transparent in terms of

866
00:48:11.359 --> 00:48:16.560
the of of what the board shared, what

867
00:48:15.040 --> 00:48:18.400
your direction was, and how we

868
00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:20.640
communicated that to our community and

869
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:23.680
the staff. And you know when it when

870
00:48:20.640 --> 00:48:26.720
when when you all shared in October 2025

871
00:48:23.680 --> 00:48:28.640
we need to move to a regional approach.

872
00:48:26.720 --> 00:48:30.960
As superintendent I asked you for

873
00:48:28.640 --> 00:48:33.119
several months to think through what a

874
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.760
strong process would be. How do we

875
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:38.640
create a worldclass process that listens

876
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:40.319
to people before we just behind closed

877
00:48:38.640 --> 00:48:41.520
doors pick a list of schools and roll it

878
00:48:40.319 --> 00:48:44.240
out to the community and ask them if

879
00:48:41.520 --> 00:48:47.680
they like it or not? or even worse, when

880
00:48:44.240 --> 00:48:50.640
we did this in 20 or 2003,

881
00:48:47.680 --> 00:48:52.640
put out competing proposals and then ask

882
00:48:50.640 --> 00:48:54.160
communities to come and give feedback on

883
00:48:52.640 --> 00:48:55.760
whether or not we should close this

884
00:48:54.160 --> 00:48:58.079
school or that school. Proposals that

885
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.160
competed directly with who was going to

886
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.599
be closed. And I've talked to board

887
00:49:00.160 --> 00:49:02.880
members from that era. I've talked to

888
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:04.640
staff members. I was in a meeting

889
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:08.720
yesterday with a teacher who was part of

890
00:49:04.640 --> 00:49:10.720
that. Uh it was horrible. Not that this

891
00:49:08.720 --> 00:49:12.880
is easy. I'm not saying this is easy.

892
00:49:10.720 --> 00:49:16.480
And I'm not saying that this um isn't

893
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:19.520
hard. Uh however, I think we were really

894
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:23.040
clear on what our task was. We engaged

895
00:49:19.520 --> 00:49:25.040
thoroughly. Um we, you know, as as part

896
00:49:23.040 --> 00:49:26.640
of of doing this, I've had a lot of

897
00:49:25.040 --> 00:49:28.960
conversations with a lot of districts

898
00:49:26.640 --> 00:49:31.440
across the country and I've asked them

899
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:33.920
what's their process.

900
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:36.160
Our process stands out as one that is

901
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:38.319
more inclusive and more engaging than

902
00:49:36.160 --> 00:49:41.440
other districts. And you could compare

903
00:49:38.319 --> 00:49:43.839
what we've done and our our um

904
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:46.480
engagement to any other district in

905
00:49:43.839 --> 00:49:48.800
Colorado. I tell you, we I I promise you

906
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:52.000
our engagement has been the deepest. Our

907
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:54.559
outreach has been the most proactive. Um

908
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:56.559
so I do understand at you know folks who

909
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:59.200
are engaging at this point may have some

910
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:00.800
questions about the process. I stand

911
00:49:59.200 --> 00:50:03.359
behind the process and our team who

912
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.040
built the process. I think it is not um

913
00:50:03.359 --> 00:50:07.599
just an effective process for your

914
00:50:05.040 --> 00:50:09.599
decision, but it is something um that

915
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:11.200
that should be stood up as a model

916
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:13.119
across other districts going through

917
00:50:11.200 --> 00:50:15.119
something that is incredibly incredibly

918
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.319
difficult.

919
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.920
>> Alex,

920
00:50:16.319 --> 00:50:21.040
>> yeah, I guess I have a comment and then

921
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.720
a question. Um I would just say actually

922
00:50:21.040 --> 00:50:26.400
in partial response to my colleagues on

923
00:50:22.720 --> 00:50:28.240
the board, uh I campaigned and um came

924
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:31.200
into the board very interested in moving

925
00:50:28.240 --> 00:50:32.880
to a regional approach. Uh I live and my

926
00:50:31.200 --> 00:50:35.359
kids attend schools in the Table Mesa

927
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.119
neighborhood and the LRAK approach would

928
00:50:35.359 --> 00:50:38.400
treat Mesa Elementary as a totally

929
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.319
different thing than Bear Creek than

930
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:42.000
Community Monastery and Creekide. And

931
00:50:40.319 --> 00:50:43.760
the parents in that community treat it

932
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:46.079
as the offerings that are within walking

933
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:48.559
and biking distance of their houses. And

934
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.960
so if you just looked at the LRAK thing,

935
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:53.280
you'd be we were parsing out differences

936
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:56.319
between uh small differences in

937
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:58.400
enrollment when to our later point most

938
00:50:56.319 --> 00:51:00.160
of them were underenrolled. So, we

939
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:02.559
needed to act more and we're acting as

940
00:51:00.160 --> 00:51:04.000
if one school because Heatherwood was a

941
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:05.280
little smaller than the next school that

942
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.040
Heatherwood's obviously the one that

943
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.880
should change and it's all on them and

944
00:51:07.040 --> 00:51:10.800
we'd put all our resources into solving

945
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.319
Heatherwood. So, we give spend a quarter

946
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:14.160
million and what do you know? It adds

947
00:51:12.319 --> 00:51:16.079
six kids in enrollment to the school.

948
00:51:14.160 --> 00:51:18.480
So, it just doesn't really work and it

949
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:20.559
doesn't serve the community. So, uh, my

950
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:23.440
memory from when the board suggested

951
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:25.680
moving from the LRAK to, uh, more bold

952
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.920
action in part was because we knew we

953
00:51:25.680 --> 00:51:30.160
needed to act substantially and that we

954
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:33.200
shouldn't act on schools in isolation.

955
00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:35.520
Uh, we didn't want to go back to 2003

956
00:51:33.200 --> 00:51:38.079
or whatever and pit one school against

957
00:51:35.520 --> 00:51:39.839
another. We wanted communities to talk

958
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:42.000
about how best to serve the all the

959
00:51:39.839 --> 00:51:43.680
schools in their in their communities.

960
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.119
And we're not just Boulder, like we're I

961
00:51:43.680 --> 00:51:46.079
forget how many geographies we serve,

962
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:48.880
but it's a lot of government

963
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:50.240
institutions and counties and stuff. And

964
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.160
people do sort of work within their

965
00:51:50.240 --> 00:51:54.160
community. Some will commute a half

966
00:51:52.160 --> 00:51:56.160
hour, 40 minutes to a school, but not

967
00:51:54.160 --> 00:51:58.319
many. Most people want to make it

968
00:51:56.160 --> 00:52:00.480
practical. And so I am a strong believer

969
00:51:58.319 --> 00:52:02.720
that the move from the individual school

970
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.559
parsing out small differences to having

971
00:52:02.720 --> 00:52:07.760
a regional approach was something the

972
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:09.920
board uh I'm argued for it. I found that

973
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:11.440
the rest of the board u many of the new

974
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:13.280
people were agreeing with that approach

975
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:15.440
and that it is more holistic and

976
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:18.000
comprehensive and from the feedback that

977
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.760
we get I think we we see that that's

978
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:22.240
probably necessary and it leads to a lot

979
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:24.480
of transition planning. Um the other

980
00:52:22.240 --> 00:52:27.040
thing I would just say is that the the

981
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:29.280
LRA the the issues we were dealing with

982
00:52:27.040 --> 00:52:31.280
collectively with all 27,000 kids were

983
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:33.520
before us all the time and that the

984
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:35.359
shortcomings were not hypothetical or in

985
00:52:33.520 --> 00:52:36.960
the future. they were kid families

986
00:52:35.359 --> 00:52:39.440
leaving the district now for private

987
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:41.040
schools or homeschooling because uh they

988
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.880
couldn't get the services they needed uh

989
00:52:41.040 --> 00:52:44.880
for their neurodeiverse kid in the place

990
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:46.720
where they were or that there was no

991
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:49.119
acceleration available because they had

992
00:52:46.720 --> 00:52:50.720
to do advanced courses uh online rather

993
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.960
than in person and their kid couldn't

994
00:52:50.720 --> 00:52:54.880
learn that modality. So like the

995
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:56.880
shortcomings were real. the school

996
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:59.440
by-school approach was really a short

997
00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:01.520
service to our community and I for one

998
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:03.760
on the board didn't not want to wait

999
00:53:01.520 --> 00:53:06.319
four or five more years of waiting for

1000
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:08.720
those numbers to creep even lower. So I

1001
00:53:06.319 --> 00:53:11.040
I think the red and orange stuff is

1002
00:53:08.720 --> 00:53:12.720
helpful, but there was no green there.

1003
00:53:11.040 --> 00:53:13.839
Like all those schools, so many of those

1004
00:53:12.720 --> 00:53:15.200
schools are under enroll to the point

1005
00:53:13.839 --> 00:53:17.280
where they were harming kids. And I

1006
00:53:15.200 --> 00:53:18.880
think that's where the board I've heard

1007
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:20.559
feedback from the community about, you

1008
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:22.400
know, the transition from the LRAC as if

1009
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:23.839
they were the policymaking body. This is

1010
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:26.000
the policymaking body. We're the

1011
00:53:23.839 --> 00:53:28.240
decision makers directing where we go.

1012
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:30.160
and we directed the district to move in

1013
00:53:28.240 --> 00:53:32.319
a more regional comprehensive holistic

1014
00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:34.079
approach and to accelerate the action so

1015
00:53:32.319 --> 00:53:35.920
that we wouldn't be waiting four or five

1016
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.760
more years to pull the trigger and just

1017
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.520
punt it off to some future board when

1018
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:42.400
kids are suffering today. So I just

1019
00:53:39.520 --> 00:53:44.319
wanted to explain the regionalism for me

1020
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.599
from for new members on the board who

1021
00:53:44.319 --> 00:53:47.040
weren't there during some of those

1022
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:48.319
discussions. That's that's where I was

1023
00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:51.280
coming from and that's how I remember

1024
00:53:48.319 --> 00:53:53.280
those discussions. And one more thing on

1025
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:56.880
the uh there's been the discussion about

1026
00:53:53.280 --> 00:54:00.640
the engagement. Um, I think it's wrong

1027
00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:02.400
to frame what we're doing now as like a

1028
00:54:00.640 --> 00:54:04.400
short version of engagement versus this

1029
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.240
other stuff. The other stuff we did is

1030
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:08.160
in addition to what districts normally

1031
00:54:06.240 --> 00:54:09.520
do. Most of the districts would do a

1032
00:54:08.160 --> 00:54:11.520
short version of what we've done in the

1033
00:54:09.520 --> 00:54:13.599
last 8 weeks. That's what community

1034
00:54:11.520 --> 00:54:15.599
engagement is at the best case in our

1035
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:17.040
surrounding districts. In St. Green, I

1036
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:18.800
think they had like two weeks notice

1037
00:54:17.040 --> 00:54:20.400
before they closed an elementary school.

1038
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:22.240
Jeffco had their LRAK thing and they

1039
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:26.319
went to just quick action and proposed

1040
00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:28.079
closing you know 11. Um so I think our

1041
00:54:26.319 --> 00:54:30.319
large engagement process which I look

1042
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:33.280
forward to having described in more

1043
00:54:30.319 --> 00:54:34.960
detail now is in addition to what is

1044
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:37.440
actually a normal district engagement

1045
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:39.280
process with a fairly normal district

1046
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.800
timeline that we've been engaged in in

1047
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:43.599
over the last 10 weeks. That's the way I

1048
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:45.599
see it. And I never expected the the

1049
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:47.599
deep community engagement which I found

1050
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:49.520
also great greatly gratifying to see the

1051
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:51.200
sophistication and the engagement and

1052
00:54:49.520 --> 00:54:54.319
the deep dive of our families and our

1053
00:54:51.200 --> 00:54:56.079
educators. Um but that was not to avoid

1054
00:54:54.319 --> 00:54:57.760
having the discussion we've had over the

1055
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.440
last two months. That was to inform the

1056
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:01.200
discussion for the whole community that

1057
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:03.280
we're now engaged in. So it's not an

1058
00:55:01.200 --> 00:55:04.960
either or or the right or the wrong way.

1059
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:08.880
I think we did an additional step that

1060
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:11.680
was very necessary and appropriate.

1061
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:14.559
Before we move on, I just want to again

1062
00:55:11.680 --> 00:55:17.440
provide context to this timeline. I have

1063
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:18.640
been on the board for five years and

1064
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:20.640
we've been talking about declining

1065
00:55:18.640 --> 00:55:23.040
enrollment since I was elected in

1066
00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:25.200
November of 2021.

1067
00:55:23.040 --> 00:55:26.640
Before that, I was on the district

1068
00:55:25.200 --> 00:55:28.160
accountability committee and we were

1069
00:55:26.640 --> 00:55:29.680
talking about the impacts of declining

1070
00:55:28.160 --> 00:55:33.680
enrollment on student learning

1071
00:55:29.680 --> 00:55:36.720
experiences and student data. So, it has

1072
00:55:33.680 --> 00:55:37.839
been a long time coming and I understand

1073
00:55:36.720 --> 00:55:39.359
particularly for parents of

1074
00:55:37.839 --> 00:55:41.839
kindergarteners or elementary school

1075
00:55:39.359 --> 00:55:44.400
student or first graders who haven't

1076
00:55:41.839 --> 00:55:46.559
kind of been along for the ride with us

1077
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:49.839
in the same way or haven't watched the

1078
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:52.240
experiences at their individual schools

1079
00:55:49.839 --> 00:55:54.799
deteriorate over time because there are

1080
00:55:52.240 --> 00:55:56.480
fewer and fewer students. Um, I

1081
00:55:54.799 --> 00:55:59.760
understand that this feels like a

1082
00:55:56.480 --> 00:56:02.880
surprise and I just really hope

1083
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:04.960
everybody hears how long me personally

1084
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:06.160
on this board and representing on school

1085
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:08.000
accountability committees and district

1086
00:56:06.160 --> 00:56:09.760
accountability committee before that

1087
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:12.720
have been considering declining

1088
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:14.319
enrollment relying on Glenn's data. I

1089
00:56:12.720 --> 00:56:17.119
mean, I first looked at your enrollment

1090
00:56:14.319 --> 00:56:21.040
matrices when my senior was in first

1091
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:24.000
grade. It's been a long time coming. Um

1092
00:56:21.040 --> 00:56:26.160
so I I just want to share that and also

1093
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:29.920
share

1094
00:56:26.160 --> 00:56:32.960
re-emphasize that the board which does

1095
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:36.720
change every two years roughly on the

1096
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:40.000
composition we directed we told staff

1097
00:56:36.720 --> 00:56:43.440
schools could not stay small. We asked

1098
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:46.160
staff to come up with a plan. It wasn't

1099
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:47.839
consultants or something else that said

1100
00:56:46.160 --> 00:56:50.079
we're going to close schools. You should

1101
00:56:47.839 --> 00:56:52.960
close these schools. We said schools

1102
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:55.200
cannot remain small. Present us with

1103
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.040
options that meet the needs of our this

1104
00:56:55.200 --> 00:56:59.440
entire school district. 500 square

1105
00:56:57.040 --> 00:57:01.119
miles, 27,000 students, and 4,000

1106
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:03.760
employees.

1107
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:05.920
That was the cadence

1108
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:08.000
we directed. That was the cadence that

1109
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:09.520
was taken. Um, so I just wanted to

1110
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.319
clarify that as well. And then I'll turn

1111
00:57:09.520 --> 00:57:14.000
it over to Dr. Aline or Dr. Anderson.

1112
00:57:12.319 --> 00:57:15.359
>> Just one point of of clarification

1113
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:18.480
because I think that there's uh, you

1114
00:57:15.359 --> 00:57:21.280
know, words really matter here. um when

1115
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:24.799
you state options, options for each

1116
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:28.400
region, not multiple options for each

1117
00:57:24.799 --> 00:57:30.000
region to be considered. And so, uh the

1118
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:33.359
direction was clear that that wasn't

1119
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:36.319
specified on October 20 25th or January

1120
00:57:33.359 --> 00:57:38.319
or in any any point in time during this

1121
00:57:36.319 --> 00:57:39.920
process that the board directed staff to

1122
00:57:38.319 --> 00:57:41.520
come up with multiple options for

1123
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:44.000
consideration. I just want to be really

1124
00:57:41.520 --> 00:57:45.920
clear about that. um that it was to look

1125
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.839
at each region and options for each

1126
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.839
region, it would come forward in one

1127
00:57:47.839 --> 00:57:52.720
proposal. So, just wanted to make sure

1128
00:57:49.839 --> 00:57:54.799
that I clarify that uh board president

1129
00:57:52.720 --> 00:57:57.839
Rajbo. And with that, Dr. Azine, uh

1130
00:57:54.799 --> 00:58:00.480
we'll turn it over to you uh to um get

1131
00:57:57.839 --> 00:58:04.280
into our data sources and some of the

1132
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:04.280
analysis that we did.

1133
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:10.160
>> Okay. Uh so when we talk about all of

1134
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:11.760
those opportunities for our stakeholders

1135
00:58:10.160 --> 00:58:14.160
to provide feedback, you can imagine

1136
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:16.799
that we amassed a pretty robust u and

1137
00:58:14.160 --> 00:58:18.640
varied data corpus of data. And so this

1138
00:58:16.799 --> 00:58:20.640
table summarizes what we had to work

1139
00:58:18.640 --> 00:58:23.599
with. We had the feedback from the

1140
00:58:20.640 --> 00:58:25.359
teachers at those elementary roundts. We

1141
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:26.799
had community engagement feedback

1142
00:58:25.359 --> 00:58:28.640
packets. These were packets that

1143
00:58:26.799 --> 00:58:30.000
individuals who attended those sessions

1144
00:58:28.640 --> 00:58:32.240
filled out during the evening and

1145
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.000
submitted at the end. There was also a

1146
00:58:32.240 --> 00:58:36.160
follow-up survey that was offered to

1147
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.839
attendees via QR code as they were

1148
00:58:36.160 --> 00:58:39.680
leaving that evening. And then we had

1149
00:58:37.839 --> 00:58:41.920
our resilient school survey that we

1150
00:58:39.680 --> 00:58:43.599
offered to the full census of every

1151
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:46.079
staff member and every family currently

1152
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:48.240
affiliated with BBSD. And it was also

1153
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:50.240
offered to a random sample of community

1154
00:58:48.240 --> 00:58:51.760
members not currently affiliated with

1155
00:58:50.240 --> 00:58:55.040
the district but residing within

1156
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:58.400
district boundaries. So as Dr. Anderson

1157
00:58:55.040 --> 00:59:01.200
stated this we had the 63,000 responses

1158
00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:03.520
ultimately 76,000 bits of data and

1159
00:59:01.200 --> 00:59:05.040
before I walk through this findings I

1160
00:59:03.520 --> 00:59:06.720
want to ground us in the scope of this

1161
00:59:05.040 --> 00:59:08.720
data and kind of give a little bit more

1162
00:59:06.720 --> 00:59:11.280
background on the methods that we use to

1163
00:59:08.720 --> 00:59:13.040
turn this table into the information

1164
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:16.280
that was used to help support and inform

1165
00:59:13.040 --> 00:59:16.280
the proposal.

1166
00:59:16.720 --> 00:59:21.119
So we uh conducted several sensitivity

1167
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:22.960
analysis and checks uh with this data

1168
00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:26.000
just to make sure that we felt confident

1169
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:27.760
that this was a round representation of

1170
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:29.680
what the community wanted and what they

1171
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:32.319
valued and what they prioritized. So

1172
00:59:29.680 --> 00:59:34.079
first of all um as Dr. Anderson said

1173
00:59:32.319 --> 00:59:35.839
these were open to everyone. We didn't

1174
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:38.400
turn people away and that extended all

1175
00:59:35.839 --> 00:59:40.400
the way to the resilient school survey.

1176
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.880
uh rather than sending that to a random

1177
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:45.200
sample of individuals that would have

1178
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:47.520
guaranteed or at least better protected

1179
00:59:45.200 --> 00:59:48.559
against unresponse bias, we wanted to

1180
00:59:47.520 --> 00:59:50.240
make sure that everyone had the

1181
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:52.480
opportunity to provide feedback via the

1182
00:59:50.240 --> 00:59:56.000
survey in particular, well across all of

1183
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:57.680
these. So, uh I want to talk to this 9%

1184
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.440
response rate from families and make

1185
00:59:57.680 --> 01:00:01.760
sure that we uh know that there were

1186
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:03.280
some sensitivity checks done to to check

1187
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.720
in on the validity of that being

1188
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:06.720
representative of what our community

1189
01:00:04.720 --> 01:00:08.799
wanted. So first we looked at the

1190
01:00:06.720 --> 01:00:11.599
response rates across regions. So that

1191
01:00:08.799 --> 01:00:14.480
9% of families overall worked out to

1192
01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:16.319
about 7 to 11% by region. So that means

1193
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.920
that no single region is driving the

1194
01:00:16.319 --> 01:00:20.160
results from the survey from the family

1195
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:22.400
viewpoint. We also looked at we'll talk

1196
01:00:20.160 --> 01:00:23.839
in a minute one of the items or or

1197
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:25.760
sections of the survey was where

1198
01:00:23.839 --> 01:00:28.799
individuals identified their top three

1199
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:30.960
musthaves. We looked at that list by

1200
01:00:28.799 --> 01:00:32.880
role as well as by region to see if

1201
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.880
there was great variability there. there

1202
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.640
was some limited variability and all of

1203
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:38.400
those results were presented to the

1204
01:00:36.640 --> 01:00:40.880
board in June as well as what was used

1205
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:42.480
to inform the proposal. And then

1206
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.319
finally, just to talk a little bit more

1207
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:46.400
about this community survey that

1208
01:00:44.319 --> 01:00:48.640
occurred, we uh contracted out with

1209
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:51.599
Mellan Strategies. It's a local polling

1210
01:00:48.640 --> 01:00:53.200
firm. So they are who ran that was a

1211
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:54.720
stratified random sample in the

1212
01:00:53.200 --> 01:00:57.359
community to ensure that it had

1213
01:00:54.720 --> 01:01:00.559
representation across the district. Uh

1214
01:00:57.359 --> 01:01:02.319
and they ran analysis separate from the

1215
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:03.920
analysis that we ran internally. and we

1216
01:01:02.319 --> 01:01:06.079
looked at their results compared to what

1217
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:08.240
we saw within the district. Again, a

1218
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:10.319
little bit of variability, not nothing

1219
01:01:08.240 --> 01:01:12.480
that was extreme. And all of that was

1220
01:01:10.319 --> 01:01:14.160
used to inform the proposal, to inform

1221
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:16.559
the information that was used to inform

1222
01:01:14.160 --> 01:01:18.720
the proposal.

1223
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:21.200
So, that's just adding to the validity

1224
01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:22.960
of some external validity to what our

1225
01:01:21.200 --> 01:01:25.440
internal results showed through that

1226
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:27.359
survey analysis. And then as was said,

1227
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.960
we triangulated across all of these

1228
01:01:27.359 --> 01:01:30.799
different data sources to make sure that

1229
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:33.280
we were again trying to provide the most

1230
01:01:30.799 --> 01:01:35.200
full picture of what we heard from

1231
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:37.119
individuals across roles, across

1232
01:01:35.200 --> 01:01:40.119
regions, across these opportunities for

1233
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.119
engagement.

1234
01:01:43.520 --> 01:01:47.839
Okay, so talking about the survey, the

1235
01:01:45.680 --> 01:01:50.640
resilient schools community survey had

1236
01:01:47.839 --> 01:01:53.520
two primary sections. The first section

1237
01:01:50.640 --> 01:01:55.440
was this what's referred to as max diff.

1238
01:01:53.520 --> 01:01:58.160
This is where there was a predetermined

1239
01:01:55.440 --> 01:02:00.480
set of 12 priorities under consideration

1240
01:01:58.160 --> 01:02:02.559
when thinking about schools experiencing

1241
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:04.720
declining enrollment. Individuals had

1242
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:06.640
nine items where they saw four random

1243
01:02:04.720 --> 01:02:08.240
priorities and they had to identify what

1244
01:02:06.640 --> 01:02:10.160
was the most and least important from

1245
01:02:08.240 --> 01:02:12.240
those four. They repeated that nine

1246
01:02:10.160 --> 01:02:13.680
times. We heard from the community that

1247
01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:15.839
this this felt really frustrating that

1248
01:02:13.680 --> 01:02:17.839
we they were being asked to identify

1249
01:02:15.839 --> 01:02:20.240
most and least important from a list

1250
01:02:17.839 --> 01:02:21.680
where everything was important and that

1251
01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:23.359
we recognized that and we named that.

1252
01:02:21.680 --> 01:02:25.359
That was by design because that is where

1253
01:02:23.359 --> 01:02:26.799
we find ourselves needing to move

1254
01:02:25.359 --> 01:02:28.880
forward and make some decisions. We

1255
01:02:26.799 --> 01:02:31.280
needed to know from our community given

1256
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:33.040
limited resources what is the relative

1257
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:35.599
ranking of these priorities and that's

1258
01:02:33.040 --> 01:02:38.000
what this form of survey design allows

1259
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:39.599
us to do. So head and shoulders above

1260
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:41.839
the rest within our community, small

1261
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:43.760
class sizes was the number one priority,

1262
01:02:41.839 --> 01:02:46.400
but these six are the ones that rose to

1263
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:49.200
the top from the fullest of 12 as being

1264
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:52.000
the most likely to be chosen as most

1265
01:02:49.200 --> 01:02:54.240
important across all survey respondents.

1266
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:56.559
When we go to the second part of that

1267
01:02:54.240 --> 01:02:58.319
survey, that next part was after they

1268
01:02:56.559 --> 01:03:00.799
had those random sample of items, they

1269
01:02:58.319 --> 01:03:03.200
saw the full list of 12 and individuals

1270
01:03:00.799 --> 01:03:05.599
could select up to three as their top

1271
01:03:03.200 --> 01:03:07.520
three musthaves. And these were the top

1272
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:10.319
three that were pro uh identified across

1273
01:03:07.520 --> 01:03:12.559
the sample.

1274
01:03:10.319 --> 01:03:14.160
Oh, sorry.

1275
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:16.000
Next, at the community engagement

1276
01:03:14.160 --> 01:03:17.839
sessions, one of the activities that

1277
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:19.520
people were invited to participate in

1278
01:03:17.839 --> 01:03:21.839
was that collaboratively at their

1279
01:03:19.520 --> 01:03:24.559
tables, they learned about challenges

1280
01:03:21.839 --> 01:03:26.799
that schools experience uh when they

1281
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:28.640
have under enrollment. and the tables

1282
01:03:26.799 --> 01:03:31.280
worked together to collaboratively

1283
01:03:28.640 --> 01:03:33.599
identify those difficulties that they

1284
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:35.680
wanted the district to prioritize to

1285
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:37.359
solve when the proposal came forward.

1286
01:03:35.680 --> 01:03:38.880
And these are the top five of those

1287
01:03:37.359 --> 01:03:40.319
cards that were identified as the

1288
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:42.720
problems that the community wanted to

1289
01:03:40.319 --> 01:03:44.720
see solved. And then lastly, doing some

1290
01:03:42.720 --> 01:03:47.039
qualitative analysis through the roundt

1291
01:03:44.720 --> 01:03:48.559
discussions. Uh the top two themes that

1292
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:51.039
came up most often in those

1293
01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:53.599
conversations with staff were problems

1294
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:55.200
related to small class sizes as well as

1295
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:57.839
uh challenges related to part-time

1296
01:03:55.200 --> 01:04:00.720
staff. So when we look across these

1297
01:03:57.839 --> 01:04:03.920
data, we kind of quickly see some themes

1298
01:04:00.720 --> 01:04:06.160
show up. Uh small class sizes as well as

1299
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:09.119
challenges related to variable class

1300
01:04:06.160 --> 01:04:10.799
size or small class sizes came across as

1301
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:12.559
the top priority across all of these

1302
01:04:10.799 --> 01:04:14.559
data sources.

1303
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:17.119
Next, we saw some emphasis for

1304
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:19.599
challenges related to part-time staff.

1305
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:21.440
So, our our uh stakeholders really

1306
01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:23.680
emphasized they wanted to see full-time

1307
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:25.680
comprehensive staff in every building.

1308
01:04:23.680 --> 01:04:28.720
And then finally, uh equitable funding

1309
01:04:25.680 --> 01:04:30.880
and neighborhood proximity were also the

1310
01:04:28.720 --> 01:04:34.760
most likely to be chosen as uh top

1311
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:34.760
priorities from the community.

1312
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:38.720
And then lastly, at the community

1313
01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:40.799
engagement sessions, one of the

1314
01:04:38.720 --> 01:04:42.079
activities in the packets as well as

1315
01:04:40.799 --> 01:04:45.920
conversations that happened at the

1316
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:48.079
roundts was when given a list of options

1317
01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:50.799
that the school district could take to

1318
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:52.079
solve these problems. Uh what would be

1319
01:04:50.799 --> 01:04:54.480
the highest priority? What would be the

1320
01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:55.920
first choice? uh or specifically I

1321
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:57.359
believe this action is a move in the

1322
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:59.039
right direction to solve the challenges

1323
01:04:57.359 --> 01:05:01.280
of underenrolled schools is how

1324
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:02.960
individuals responded from both the

1325
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:06.640
community engagement sessions and the

1326
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:09.440
roundts consolidating schools was the uh

1327
01:05:06.640 --> 01:05:11.359
most chosen top priority in those shifts

1328
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:13.280
there at the community engagement

1329
01:05:11.359 --> 01:05:17.480
sessions the second one was to

1330
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:17.480
reconfigure PK8 schools

1331
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:24.880
>> Dr. Charlesine, can you go through all

1332
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:26.720
of those the um how all of the the uh

1333
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:28.319
the options that folks considered? You

1334
01:05:26.720 --> 01:05:29.520
you gave the top two. Can you just kind

1335
01:05:28.319 --> 01:05:30.640
of run through the rest of those? I

1336
01:05:29.520 --> 01:05:32.160
don't know that that's on the slide, but

1337
01:05:30.640 --> 01:05:36.079
I'd want that to be on the record.

1338
01:05:32.160 --> 01:05:38.559
>> Yes. Uh so the top was um consolidating

1339
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:40.880
schools, second being the PK8 split,

1340
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:43.359
third was close and redistribute

1341
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:46.000
students, fourth was relocating for

1342
01:05:43.359 --> 01:05:49.359
focus programs, fifth was to reconfigure

1343
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:53.799
or split K5 schools. And then uh final

1344
01:05:49.359 --> 01:05:53.799
was introducing new focus programs.

1345
01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:00.319
>> All right, the next part Glenn Sigru,

1346
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.079
our senior planner, is going to be

1347
01:06:00.319 --> 01:06:04.880
presenting some of our methodology on

1348
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:06.799
how we determine projections. Uh all of

1349
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:08.160
you around this table know Glenn, but a

1350
01:06:06.799 --> 01:06:10.319
lot of people in our community don't.

1351
01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:13.119
Glenn has been doing this work for this

1352
01:06:10.319 --> 01:06:14.960
district for 19 years. Uh, and if you

1353
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:17.680
have followed any of our enrollment

1354
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:20.000
work, it has been extremely accurate

1355
01:06:17.680 --> 01:06:22.559
over those 19 years. And I would say it

1356
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:24.079
took something like a uh, global

1357
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:26.559
pandemic

1358
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:28.400
to throw those projections off. And

1359
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:30.559
that's about the only time that Glenn

1360
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:32.160
has been off. We have a lot of people in

1361
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:33.839
this community, extremely intelligent,

1362
01:06:32.160 --> 01:06:35.359
that are looking at numbers. There's a

1363
01:06:33.839 --> 01:06:36.880
lot that goes into projections. And

1364
01:06:35.359 --> 01:06:39.839
Glenn's going to get into that a little

1365
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:42.799
bit. Uh, I'll jump in if need to, but

1366
01:06:39.839 --> 01:06:44.960
um, and I've got a tremendous amount of

1367
01:06:42.799 --> 01:06:47.520
confidence in Glenn's numbers, and it's

1368
01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:50.480
not about me. We can go back year over

1369
01:06:47.520 --> 01:06:53.119
year over year and look at our, uh, uh,

1370
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:54.720
enrollment projections to see where

1371
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:56.079
Glenn projected and where we actually

1372
01:06:54.720 --> 01:06:58.319
landed, and you would see that for

1373
01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:59.520
yourself. So, with that, I will turn it

1374
01:06:58.319 --> 01:07:02.400
over to Glenn to present our

1375
01:06:59.520 --> 01:07:05.280
methodology.

1376
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:08.640
>> Thank you, Rob. Um,

1377
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:08.640
let's get the right slide.

1378
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:14.400
So our methodology uh these are the main

1379
01:07:12.160 --> 01:07:16.160
data sources used in most current

1380
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:18.160
planning projects and the resilient

1381
01:07:16.160 --> 01:07:21.200
schools initiative. Uh the student

1382
01:07:18.160 --> 01:07:23.680
records are the primary source for trend

1383
01:07:21.200 --> 01:07:25.920
analysis and projections. These records

1384
01:07:23.680 --> 01:07:28.960
are universal meaning they are pulling

1385
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:31.520
data from actual records not estimates

1386
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:33.680
or extrapolations from outside sources.

1387
01:07:31.520 --> 01:07:35.520
Also, these records are by address and

1388
01:07:33.680 --> 01:07:37.760
can be aggregated in multiple ways,

1389
01:07:35.520 --> 01:07:39.839
usually by attendance area, but other

1390
01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:41.520
ways are possible as well. This is

1391
01:07:39.839 --> 01:07:43.760
important for school districts because

1392
01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:46.000
most outside data sources aggregate at

1393
01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:47.920
the county or municipal levels, uh,

1394
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:50.640
which do not align with BBSD's

1395
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:52.240
boundaries.

1396
01:07:50.640 --> 01:07:56.319
The next category there, the Colorado

1397
01:07:52.240 --> 01:07:59.200
Department of Health and Environment,

1398
01:07:56.319 --> 01:08:02.160
you need to go

1399
01:07:59.200 --> 01:08:04.000
one more. All right, there we go.

1400
01:08:02.160 --> 01:08:05.359
>> This one. Okay,

1401
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:07.359
>> data sources. Yes,

1402
01:08:05.359 --> 01:08:09.920
>> our methodology.

1403
01:08:07.359 --> 01:08:13.359
>> Data sources here.

1404
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:14.240
>> Methodology. Okay,

1405
01:08:13.359 --> 01:08:15.760
>> apologize.

1406
01:08:14.240 --> 01:08:18.239
>> Okay,

1407
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:20.400
so uh every student is guaranteed a seat

1408
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:22.799
in the neighborhood school. Um so this

1409
01:08:20.400 --> 01:08:24.799
is based on our resident populations as

1410
01:08:22.799 --> 01:08:27.520
the starting point for our projections.

1411
01:08:24.799 --> 01:08:29.679
Colorado law allows parents to apply to

1412
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:31.440
attend another school only if there is

1413
01:08:29.679 --> 01:08:34.159
available space and programmat

1414
01:08:31.440 --> 01:08:37.199
programmatic capacity. Resident student

1415
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:39.359
population and housing stock data is

1416
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:42.560
less variable and more predictable than

1417
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:44.799
parent choice uh which is a large

1418
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:47.199
component of open enrollment. Open

1419
01:08:44.799 --> 01:08:49.359
enrollment is the valve that we can use

1420
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:51.279
at times to fill space in neighborhood

1421
01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:55.799
schools once we account for all of the

1422
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:55.799
residential students. Okay.

1423
01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:00.400
So, moving on to our data sources. I did

1424
01:08:58.480 --> 01:09:03.440
discuss

1425
01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:04.960
uh uh the BBSD student records is one of

1426
01:09:03.440 --> 01:09:07.600
the is the primary source that we start

1427
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:10.640
from. We also use department u of health

1428
01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:12.960
and environment uh data birth data which

1429
01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:16.239
is primary to establishing kindergarten

1430
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:19.520
class estimates uh and also just general

1431
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:21.359
tren trend analysis as well. Parcel

1432
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:23.040
records and development referrals from

1433
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:26.799
local governments form the basis of

1434
01:09:23.040 --> 01:09:28.480
housing estimates uh estimates found in

1435
01:09:26.799 --> 01:09:31.759
projections and student generation

1436
01:09:28.480 --> 01:09:34.880
rates. These are also fieldverified with

1437
01:09:31.759 --> 01:09:38.319
periodic site uh visits to to make sure

1438
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:39.759
that uh the the the data is accurate and

1439
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:40.960
that it's timely because sometimes

1440
01:09:39.759 --> 01:09:42.640
there's quite a bit of a lag time

1441
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:44.880
between some of the data we get from

1442
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:47.120
parcel records for example uh and when

1443
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:49.359
we actually need it.

1444
01:09:47.120 --> 01:09:51.679
Other outside data sources are useful

1445
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:53.920
references and can be valuable for some

1446
01:09:51.679 --> 01:09:56.560
uh projects especially redistricting

1447
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:59.120
data uses a lot of census data and state

1448
01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:00.960
demography data but otherwise these

1449
01:09:59.120 --> 01:10:02.480
sources uh can be tricky to use since

1450
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:04.640
they don't align with our boundaries as

1451
01:10:02.480 --> 01:10:06.159
I mentioned earlier and are frequently

1452
01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:09.480
frequently not timely enough for

1453
01:10:06.159 --> 01:10:09.480
district use.

1454
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:16.000
So moving on to

1455
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:19.199
the enrollment projections themselves.

1456
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:20.880
Uh the district uses a cohort survival

1457
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:23.920
uh method which is the principal

1458
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:26.800
technique. Uh it looks at seven years of

1459
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:29.600
historical data resident student data by

1460
01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:31.920
grade for a given school. It then

1461
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:33.760
calculates ratios for each class as it

1462
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:35.920
progresses from one year to the next. So

1463
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:38.480
in the illustration you can see past

1464
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:41.040
year data. Uh this one shows 2017

1465
01:10:38.480 --> 01:10:43.760
through 2023. uh you take that first

1466
01:10:41.040 --> 01:10:45.600
kindergarten class and look at how it

1467
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:48.080
compares the next year and turns into a

1468
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:50.640
first grade class and that makes a ratio

1469
01:10:48.080 --> 01:10:52.480
and that's the red circle on the bottom.

1470
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:55.520
You can calculate that for all of the

1471
01:10:52.480 --> 01:10:59.040
classes uh in all of the years and use

1472
01:10:55.520 --> 01:11:00.960
those uh those averaged ratios and apply

1473
01:10:59.040 --> 01:11:03.120
them to your current kindergarten class

1474
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.640
and first grade and so forth and then

1475
01:11:03.120 --> 01:11:06.800
project those out in the future. That's

1476
01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:09.520
the core principle and using that with

1477
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:11.920
resident students.

1478
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:14.719
In doing so, BBSD can estimate how

1479
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:18.400
future classes uh will grow or decline

1480
01:11:14.719 --> 01:11:20.640
based on uh these past ratios. It also

1481
01:11:18.400 --> 01:11:22.800
effectively accounts for large or small

1482
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:25.120
classes in the system as they progress

1483
01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:27.280
through the grades. Basically, if

1484
01:11:25.120 --> 01:11:29.760
entering kindergarten classes are small,

1485
01:11:27.280 --> 01:11:32.159
the the model will typically project a

1486
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:34.400
decline in the coming years as those

1487
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:37.040
classes progress to higher and higher uh

1488
01:11:34.400 --> 01:11:38.640
grade levels. In fact, this is what the

1489
01:11:37.040 --> 01:11:40.960
district has been seeing in the years

1490
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:43.600
preceding the pandemic and we continue

1491
01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:45.600
to see today.

1492
01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:47.440
Cohorts based on residential students

1493
01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:49.760
have distinct advantages over some

1494
01:11:47.440 --> 01:11:52.640
districts use enrollment basis, but we

1495
01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:54.719
use resident uh here for these reasons.

1496
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:57.440
Resident patterns tend to move more

1497
01:11:54.719 --> 01:11:59.600
slowly and stably than open enrollment

1498
01:11:57.440 --> 01:12:02.320
patterns which are constantly evolving

1499
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:04.480
year after year. This method better

1500
01:12:02.320 --> 01:12:06.719
isolates the underlying population in a

1501
01:12:04.480 --> 01:12:09.360
neighborhood and separate it separates

1502
01:12:06.719 --> 01:12:11.360
it from open enrollment impacts uh at

1503
01:12:09.360 --> 01:12:14.719
the school. For example, in the past,

1504
01:12:11.360 --> 01:12:16.480
we've seen uh schools where we may see

1505
01:12:14.719 --> 01:12:17.679
enrollment growth at that school while

1506
01:12:16.480 --> 01:12:20.640
at the same time the neighborhood

1507
01:12:17.679 --> 01:12:23.360
population is declining. So the open

1508
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:25.520
enrollment rate in that school is what's

1509
01:12:23.360 --> 01:12:27.040
really driving that growth when in fact

1510
01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:28.560
the underlying neighborhood population

1511
01:12:27.040 --> 01:12:31.960
can be declining. So it's important to

1512
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.960
make those distinctions.

1513
01:12:35.360 --> 01:12:39.040
Resident students form the foundation

1514
01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:41.440
for many of the analysis going forward

1515
01:12:39.040 --> 01:12:43.120
into the resilient schools. Using

1516
01:12:41.440 --> 01:12:45.280
resident student location, we can

1517
01:12:43.120 --> 01:12:48.320
determine how many students are in close

1518
01:12:45.280 --> 01:12:50.080
proximity to school buildings. Here a

1519
01:12:48.320 --> 01:12:52.719
heat map of resident students in the

1520
01:12:50.080 --> 01:12:54.800
Douglas attendance area. The right, the

1521
01:12:52.719 --> 01:12:57.760
light yellow represents clusters of one

1522
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:59.600
to five u students with darker colors

1523
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:01.679
representing increasing densities of

1524
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:04.880
students.

1525
01:13:01.679 --> 01:13:07.679
Also shown in this table uh is also

1526
01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:09.600
shown on this is a table of students and

1527
01:13:07.679 --> 01:13:11.679
housing units within one mile of the

1528
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:14.560
school. again and we see far fewer

1529
01:13:11.679 --> 01:13:16.000
students and housing units close to the

1530
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:18.480
school compared to other district

1531
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:21.280
neighborhood schools.

1532
01:13:18.480 --> 01:13:23.199
Uh we did do have to note that we use

1533
01:13:21.280 --> 01:13:25.600
single family detached here as the

1534
01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:27.920
measure. Um there are other housing

1535
01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:30.159
types that we do use in our projections

1536
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:32.640
in our estimates. Uh but they can

1537
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:34.080
complicate things with CU apartments and

1538
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.840
things like that. For the purposes of

1539
01:13:34.080 --> 01:13:38.159
here of illustration, we just use single

1540
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:40.159
family detached.

1541
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:41.760
We consider proximity to neighborhood

1542
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:44.400
schools an important measure since

1543
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:47.040
almost twothirds of of BBSD students or

1544
01:13:44.400 --> 01:13:49.280
about 63% attend their neighborhood

1545
01:13:47.040 --> 01:13:50.719
school rather than an open enrollment

1546
01:13:49.280 --> 01:13:53.040
rather than opening rolling to a

1547
01:13:50.719 --> 01:13:56.080
different neighborhood focus or charter

1548
01:13:53.040 --> 01:13:58.640
school. In fact, recent public out uh

1549
01:13:56.080 --> 01:14:00.719
outreach listed walkability or proximity

1550
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:04.199
for that matter as a value our school of

1551
01:14:00.719 --> 01:14:04.199
our school communities.

1552
01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:11.440
We can see here that the resident

1553
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:13.199
students in BBSD schools vary widely

1554
01:14:11.440 --> 01:14:15.600
with many schools having insufficient

1555
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:18.159
resident students to meet a two classes

1556
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:22.080
per grade standard or about 300 student

1557
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:24.000
school. As of 2025, nine schools in the

1558
01:14:22.080 --> 01:14:26.800
initiative were operating with resident

1559
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:30.960
populations below 300 and another four

1560
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:32.960
only slightly above that level.

1561
01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:34.719
Uh this slide also shows the number of

1562
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:37.040
students that have that leave

1563
01:14:34.719 --> 01:14:38.800
neighborhood schools shown here in green

1564
01:14:37.040 --> 01:14:41.600
as opposed to those that attend their

1565
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:43.520
neighborhood school shown in blue. The

1566
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:46.480
district average for students attending

1567
01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:48.800
their neighborhood school is about 67%.

1568
01:14:46.480 --> 01:14:51.199
But that number ranges widely from some

1569
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:54.080
schools being below 50% to some schools

1570
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:57.280
being as high as around 85%. But that's

1571
01:14:54.080 --> 01:14:59.679
only a very small handful of schools.

1572
01:14:57.280 --> 01:15:02.239
We can see here that open enrollment out

1573
01:14:59.679 --> 01:15:03.920
of the of the school has a significant

1574
01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:05.679
impact on many schools ability to

1575
01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:07.840
populate a two- round school with

1576
01:15:05.679 --> 01:15:10.560
neighborhood students alone, making

1577
01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:13.199
those schools very reliant on attracting

1578
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:14.719
open enrollment. In the past, open

1579
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:16.640
enrollment has functioned as a somewhat

1580
01:15:14.719 --> 01:15:18.560
of a relief valve for crowding in the

1581
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:20.000
district, allowing some leveling between

1582
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:22.000
schools with varying resident

1583
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:24.159
populations.

1584
01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:27.199
However, the current situation is very

1585
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:30.080
different. Few schools are in need of

1586
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:33.360
such a relief valve. While the overall

1587
01:15:30.080 --> 01:15:35.520
uh u resident population of our schools

1588
01:15:33.360 --> 01:15:38.080
has been declining dramatically in in

1589
01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:40.800
recent years,

1590
01:15:38.080 --> 01:15:43.040
the focus on residenta populations pro

1591
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:45.760
prompted the board to recommend a review

1592
01:15:43.040 --> 01:15:48.960
process for attendance boundaries every

1593
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:51.360
5 years uh uh including the one that we

1594
01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:54.000
just undertook this last fall. In turn,

1595
01:15:51.360 --> 01:15:55.760
the boundary exercise also revealed that

1596
01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:57.600
the district has too few students to

1597
01:15:55.760 --> 01:16:00.239
balance populations through boundary

1598
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:02.159
changes alone. The resilient schools

1599
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:04.159
initiative, as proposed, redistributes

1600
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:08.520
resident students to better bolster

1601
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:08.520
populations in surrounding schools.

1602
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:15.280
This slide shows schools from the

1603
01:16:12.480 --> 01:16:17.760
perspective en of enrollment composition

1604
01:16:15.280 --> 01:16:19.920
rather than resident population. When

1605
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:21.840
looking at enrollment, 15 out of the

1606
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:24.080
schools do not meet the threshold of two

1607
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:26.400
classes per grade level or 300 students

1608
01:16:24.080 --> 01:16:28.640
overall. Another two are only slightly

1609
01:16:26.400 --> 01:16:30.960
above that threshold. It's important to

1610
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:32.960
note that enrollment is only part partly

1611
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:35.199
composed of resident students again

1612
01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:37.520
shown here in blue. The yellow and

1613
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:40.080
orange are the open open enroll in

1614
01:16:37.520 --> 01:16:42.000
components of enrollment.

1615
01:16:40.080 --> 01:16:44.320
Open enrollment is based on choice

1616
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:46.880
rather than core de demographic

1617
01:16:44.320 --> 01:16:49.440
characteristics of resident populations

1618
01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:52.000
which evolve much more slowly over time.

1619
01:16:49.440 --> 01:16:54.080
Rather choice uh open enrollment

1620
01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:56.480
components can fluctuate widely and are

1621
01:16:54.080 --> 01:16:58.960
more difficult to predict especially at

1622
01:16:56.480 --> 01:17:01.600
the school level. This is especially

1623
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:03.520
true when we start to combine schools.

1624
01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:05.360
Combining schools inevitably changes

1625
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:07.920
open enrollment behavior both for

1626
01:17:05.360 --> 01:17:09.679
parents and for the district. Open

1627
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:11.840
enrolled parents may not want to attend

1628
01:17:09.679 --> 01:17:14.560
the receiving schools and the district

1629
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:16.239
may elect to manage new open enrollment

1630
01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:18.640
uh in order to accept increased

1631
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:20.560
neighborhood uh an increased

1632
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:24.320
neighborhood load. A good example of

1633
01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:25.920
that is Aspen Creek and uh Dylan Point

1634
01:17:24.320 --> 01:17:27.600
uh subdivision, which is something that

1635
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:30.719
was brought up in the the last public

1636
01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:32.800
hearing. Um you can see on the bottom

1637
01:17:30.719 --> 01:17:34.560
there is Aspen Creek. Half of that

1638
01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:36.960
school is filled with open enrollment.

1639
01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:39.760
So, as we get new neighborhood kids from

1640
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:41.520
Dylan Point or other new subdivisions,

1641
01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:43.760
uh, we can accept those those students

1642
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:45.280
merely by just managing open enrollment

1643
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:47.679
a little bit. That's a very different

1644
01:17:45.280 --> 01:17:49.760
situation than if we if Aspen Creek was

1645
01:17:47.679 --> 01:17:51.040
filled with neighborhood kids and we

1646
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:55.320
would have to change a boundary or

1647
01:17:51.040 --> 01:17:55.320
something to accommodate those students.

1648
01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:58.880
Uh, in fact, we did hear some of the

1649
01:17:57.040 --> 01:18:01.040
concern from the public that the

1650
01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:02.880
projected enrollment at some schools was

1651
01:18:01.040 --> 01:18:05.840
less than the sum of the contributing

1652
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:07.360
schools. uh the the two contri two or

1653
01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:09.440
three contributing uh schools

1654
01:18:07.360 --> 01:18:11.760
enrollments combined.

1655
01:18:09.440 --> 01:18:13.199
This is because the combined school

1656
01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:15.280
projection was modeled with open

1657
01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:18.760
enrollment adjustments for the

1658
01:18:15.280 --> 01:18:18.760
contributing schools.

1659
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:25.199
>> Glenn, before we go on to how you

1660
01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:26.800
applied this data,

1661
01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:29.199
>> I wondered if board members had

1662
01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:32.760
questions about how the data was

1663
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:32.760
collected in itself.

1664
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:36.320
Alex.

1665
01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:39.440
>> Yeah, thank you. Um,

1666
01:18:36.320 --> 01:18:41.920
uh, one question for you, Glenn. Thank

1667
01:18:39.440 --> 01:18:43.679
you very much for the analysis. Um, uh,

1668
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:46.080
I've appreciated the depth of the

1669
01:18:43.679 --> 01:18:48.480
analysis all along the way and the

1670
01:18:46.080 --> 01:18:50.560
support you provided to the LRAK as

1671
01:18:48.480 --> 01:18:52.320
well. Um, I guess I have a first

1672
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:56.239
question like you've been doing this for

1673
01:18:52.320 --> 01:18:58.239
almost 20 years. Um, when did you start

1674
01:18:56.239 --> 01:19:01.440
telling us as a district that we were

1675
01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:03.760
facing future enrollment declines?

1676
01:19:01.440 --> 01:19:05.520
uh you know where we casually started

1677
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:07.440
noticing really small kindergarten

1678
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:08.960
classes is early 2012. So this is

1679
01:19:07.440 --> 01:19:11.040
something that's been building over a

1680
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:13.440
long time but you don't really know if

1681
01:19:11.040 --> 01:19:15.840
that's going to continue but after by by

1682
01:19:13.440 --> 01:19:17.520
2017 or so we can see a trend patterning

1683
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:19.520
because those small classes started

1684
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:21.600
filtering up through the system first

1685
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:24.239
bringing down elementary enrollment then

1686
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:25.520
those classes progress and and moving on

1687
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.440
to middle school and now we're seeing it

1688
01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:28.960
in high school. And and when do you

1689
01:19:27.440 --> 01:19:31.280
think you first started briefing the

1690
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:34.000
board of BBSD about that decline?

1691
01:19:31.280 --> 01:19:36.000
>> Well, we do do our annual report. Uh and

1692
01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:38.640
I do mention it in those reports.

1693
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.280
>> Okay. And then uh I know we've had

1694
01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:43.360
discussions, you know, about like the

1695
01:19:41.280 --> 01:19:47.360
developments in Erie on an individual

1696
01:19:43.360 --> 01:19:49.840
development process. How well are we

1697
01:19:47.360 --> 01:19:51.920
able to get updated data on pending

1698
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:53.440
housing development by the developers

1699
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.520
and all the geographies we work in and

1700
01:19:53.440 --> 01:19:57.199
how do you do that? So that is from the

1701
01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:59.600
development referrals that we get from

1702
01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:02.719
local governments um mostly cities

1703
01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:05.040
sometimes county uh and they tell us

1704
01:20:02.719 --> 01:20:06.719
right from concept plan which is you

1705
01:20:05.040 --> 01:20:08.000
know just sketches and things of what

1706
01:20:06.719 --> 01:20:10.400
generally might happen or even

1707
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.880
annexation would be before that uh that

1708
01:20:10.400 --> 01:20:14.800
developments you know that process takes

1709
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:16.719
you know two to sometimes 10 years.

1710
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:18.400
We've seen projects take 10 years. So,

1711
01:20:16.719 --> 01:20:20.320
we're constantly getting those new

1712
01:20:18.400 --> 01:20:22.400
applications from local governments,

1713
01:20:20.320 --> 01:20:24.000
giving them responses to those about

1714
01:20:22.400 --> 01:20:26.080
what the student impact is so they can

1715
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:30.800
make informed decisions uh and getting

1716
01:20:26.080 --> 01:20:32.960
that into our data sets. Uh once it is a

1717
01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:34.719
bit tricky on timing with those because

1718
01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:36.400
everybody, you know, developers are very

1719
01:20:34.719 --> 01:20:37.760
optimistic bunch and they'll they'll say

1720
01:20:36.400 --> 01:20:40.480
it'll start in the next two or three

1721
01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:42.560
years. Like I said, some for a lot of

1722
01:20:40.480 --> 01:20:44.080
reasons can can take 10 years to

1723
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:47.440
develop. So, you really have to have a

1724
01:20:44.080 --> 01:20:49.280
pulse on what's going on and how soon

1725
01:20:47.440 --> 01:20:51.040
you need to start putting those into

1726
01:20:49.280 --> 01:20:54.560
future projections.

1727
01:20:51.040 --> 01:20:56.080
>> And do you have a good um with that

1728
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:58.880
experience in collaborating with the

1729
01:20:56.080 --> 01:21:01.679
cities, how confident are you that uh

1730
01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:03.440
you have a good like confidence band of

1731
01:21:01.679 --> 01:21:04.080
your projections based on future

1732
01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:05.679
development?

1733
01:21:04.080 --> 01:21:07.520
>> Based on future development, it's

1734
01:21:05.679 --> 01:21:09.280
actually pretty easy right now because

1735
01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:11.600
we just really don't have a lot. I mean,

1736
01:21:09.280 --> 01:21:13.199
I know some subdivisions look big for

1737
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:15.040
100 units or something like that, but

1738
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:16.719
that's pretty small in the scale of

1739
01:21:15.040 --> 01:21:19.440
things considering you're getting 20,

1740
01:21:16.719 --> 01:21:21.600
maybe 25 elementary kids out of that.

1741
01:21:19.440 --> 01:21:24.400
Um, you know, a lot of our larger

1742
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:26.239
development has uh has been built out in

1743
01:21:24.400 --> 01:21:28.320
the district. We only have a very few

1744
01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:30.320
really large new lots that can handle

1745
01:21:28.320 --> 01:21:33.280
that kind of load. Mostly what we're

1746
01:21:30.320 --> 01:21:36.320
dealing with now is infill. Infill tends

1747
01:21:33.280 --> 01:21:38.239
to be higher densities, not always. Um,

1748
01:21:36.320 --> 01:21:39.600
and they come in much smaller little

1749
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:43.199
packets. Um,

1750
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:45.360
>> yeah. When when do you think uh I'm I'm

1751
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:47.840
curious about the collaboration and

1752
01:21:45.360 --> 01:21:50.080
coordination with like the city of

1753
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:52.639
Boulder and the county and city of

1754
01:21:50.080 --> 01:21:54.719
Broomfield. So like I live in South

1755
01:21:52.639 --> 01:21:57.360
Boulder and CU South's been a big thing

1756
01:21:54.719 --> 01:21:59.120
for a long time. Uh people of the

1757
01:21:57.360 --> 01:22:01.199
university side probably wished it was

1758
01:21:59.120 --> 01:22:03.040
already constructed whereas it's been

1759
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:05.199
litigated non-stop ever since the

1760
01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:07.679
proposals were out there. as an example,

1761
01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:09.679
how did you model or predict when and

1762
01:22:07.679 --> 01:22:11.440
how and how many students might come out

1763
01:22:09.679 --> 01:22:12.000
of CU South and when might we expect

1764
01:22:11.440 --> 01:22:14.320
them?

1765
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:17.760
>> Uh, so when we might expect, I don't

1766
01:22:14.320 --> 01:22:20.239
know. I I mean, I've seen CU change

1767
01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:22.960
quite frequently. The Boulder uh Boulder

1768
01:22:20.239 --> 01:22:24.800
High area, CU of CU properties around

1769
01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:26.960
there has gone through several different

1770
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:28.639
projects. I think none have really

1771
01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:30.400
really changed much except for now

1772
01:22:28.639 --> 01:22:32.159
there's a little bit of of scrape off

1773
01:22:30.400 --> 01:22:35.679
and rebuild in the area but not some of

1774
01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:38.239
these elaborate ones. Uh for CU South I

1775
01:22:35.679 --> 01:22:39.840
have worked with the city and CU a

1776
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:42.159
little bit. I've modeled in the past

1777
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:44.000
some scenarios and they've used those

1778
01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:46.800
bringing forward. I haven't heard much

1779
01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:48.880
in a while. Uh but I I certainly and I

1780
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:50.400
talked with CU I think uh this last

1781
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.920
spring about this topic and there's

1782
01:22:50.400 --> 01:22:53.760
certainly nothing right now that is

1783
01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:56.800
immediately imminent from what I can

1784
01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:59.840
tell uh with CU South, but we do keep uh

1785
01:22:56.800 --> 01:23:01.360
keep those students in mind and what the

1786
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:04.960
potential generations that we've been

1787
01:23:01.360 --> 01:23:06.880
told of um will will come come will

1788
01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:08.560
ultimately come to be.

1789
01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:10.000
>> And how do you uh another follow-up

1790
01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:11.440
question on that is when you're dealing

1791
01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:13.760
with something like you know a new

1792
01:23:11.440 --> 01:23:15.840
housing infill development in Boulder. I

1793
01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:17.600
mean, I've been frustrated honestly as

1794
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:20.400
an advocate for children and families in

1795
01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:22.480
this district that we like, yes, we want

1796
01:23:20.400 --> 01:23:24.800
housing, but we tend to build one in

1797
01:23:22.480 --> 01:23:26.800
bedrooms and studios and fireside is

1798
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:30.719
building three and fourbedroom homes.

1799
01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:32.400
So, how do you uh estimate based on like

1800
01:23:30.719 --> 01:23:34.320
the usual development patterns in a

1801
01:23:32.400 --> 01:23:35.679
place like Boulder for how many kids the

1802
01:23:34.320 --> 01:23:38.159
units will generate?

1803
01:23:35.679 --> 01:23:39.600
>> Uh, we do periodic reviews of we call

1804
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:41.280
them student yield, some places call

1805
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:43.920
them student generation. So that's the

1806
01:23:41.280 --> 01:23:46.880
average number of students per house. Uh

1807
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:48.639
and I use those parcel records and I've

1808
01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:50.080
modified them with site inspections and

1809
01:23:48.639 --> 01:23:52.320
stuff like I mentioned so that we know

1810
01:23:50.080 --> 01:23:55.120
exactly what's on the ground. Uh and we

1811
01:23:52.320 --> 01:23:57.040
can lay our students plot our students

1812
01:23:55.120 --> 01:24:00.000
on top of that and get a very accurate

1813
01:23:57.040 --> 01:24:03.760
calculation not only of how many house

1814
01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:05.600
units per um household but even by year.

1815
01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:09.040
So we can see that newer development

1816
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:10.800
tends to generate the most kids. Um, you

1817
01:24:09.040 --> 01:24:12.719
know, sometimes there's a shadow bump

1818
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:15.199
later on, but new development usually

1819
01:24:12.719 --> 01:24:17.840
has the most and we can see that very

1820
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:19.600
clearly and definitely the most are the

1821
01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:22.239
single family detached housing

1822
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:26.000
consistently uh show more students than

1823
01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:28.080
any other kind of housing type. Um, uh,

1824
01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:30.159
generally speaking, the more dense you

1825
01:24:28.080 --> 01:24:32.639
get, the fewer kids we've been seeing.

1826
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:34.159
Um, sometimes some apartment complexes,

1827
01:24:32.639 --> 01:24:36.400
especially affordable ones, might

1828
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:38.800
produce some kids, but generally what

1829
01:24:36.400 --> 01:24:41.280
we've been seeing in the last really 15,

1830
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:44.480
20 years, has been units for young

1831
01:24:41.280 --> 01:24:46.239
professionals and and uh um empty

1832
01:24:44.480 --> 01:24:48.320
nesters. And yeah,

1833
01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:50.159
>> I want to not lose that point. So in a

1834
01:24:48.320 --> 01:24:52.080
place like Boulder where we see lots of

1835
01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:54.000
construction and I actually am shocked

1836
01:24:52.080 --> 01:24:55.760
by when people talk about not building I

1837
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:57.920
look at how many new units there are for

1838
01:24:55.760 --> 01:24:59.520
CU students that affects our market and

1839
01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:03.280
then I look at the big developments that

1840
01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:04.960
exist. I'm I am struck by how few of

1841
01:25:03.280 --> 01:25:06.000
them are attractive to American

1842
01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:08.880
families.

1843
01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:10.800
>> Um so you're saying that when we do more

1844
01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:12.560
dense housing in a place like Boulder,

1845
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.560
we're actually generating fewer students

1846
01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:16.320
per unit than we would with other

1847
01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.159
housing types.

1848
01:25:16.320 --> 01:25:19.840
>> Absolutely. And so and Boulder's choices

1849
01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:22.000
of what kind of housing to develop in

1850
01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:24.400
its infill is now driven sort of by

1851
01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:26.880
maximizing affordability and numbers,

1852
01:25:24.400 --> 01:25:27.280
not by maximizing children. Is that

1853
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:28.639
fair?

1854
01:25:27.280 --> 01:25:30.480
>> That's that they say that's fair.

1855
01:25:28.639 --> 01:25:32.400
>> So when people in the city complain

1856
01:25:30.480 --> 01:25:35.760
about whether or not we've taken into

1857
01:25:32.400 --> 01:25:37.440
account Boulder's uh 30-year plan, have

1858
01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:38.880
we taken into account Boulder's 30-year

1859
01:25:37.440 --> 01:25:40.320
plan? And do we believe it might

1860
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:41.679
generate many students? And how many

1861
01:25:40.320 --> 01:25:43.600
students might it generate in your

1862
01:25:41.679 --> 01:25:45.120
estimation?

1863
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:47.520
I couldn't tell you how many students

1864
01:25:45.120 --> 01:25:48.719
it'll generate in our estimation. You

1865
01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:49.920
know, these are very generalized

1866
01:25:48.719 --> 01:25:52.400
categories. We're talking about the

1867
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:54.560
comprehensive plan. Um, we really need

1868
01:25:52.400 --> 01:25:55.760
to start seeing applications on the

1869
01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:57.199
ground because, like I said, there's

1870
01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:59.360
that leeway where we do five-year

1871
01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:01.679
projections. So, until we actually have

1872
01:25:59.360 --> 01:26:04.880
applications for new development, uh,

1873
01:26:01.679 --> 01:26:06.800
it's difficult to put put a number on on

1874
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:09.920
what we're actually going to get out of

1875
01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:12.320
out of uh out of those city plans. And

1876
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:13.920
if I may ask, how how many years out

1877
01:26:12.320 --> 01:26:15.520
into the future in our different

1878
01:26:13.920 --> 01:26:18.080
geographies do you think you can plan

1879
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:19.440
for realistically? Uh not knowing what

1880
01:26:18.080 --> 01:26:21.840
an interest rate's going to be, a

1881
01:26:19.440 --> 01:26:24.480
recession, a development, uh land use

1882
01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:26.400
planning changes, like how how far out

1883
01:26:24.480 --> 01:26:28.080
based on the last 20 years, do you think

1884
01:26:26.400 --> 01:26:29.520
you can plan into the future to predict

1885
01:26:28.080 --> 01:26:30.960
our students?

1886
01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:33.280
>> Well, it depends how accurate you want

1887
01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:35.760
to be. Um so I can go out a hundred

1888
01:26:33.280 --> 01:26:38.400
years if if that doesn't matter. Um, you

1889
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:40.560
know, we really have based five years is

1890
01:26:38.400 --> 01:26:43.040
the one I really like to stick to

1891
01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:45.040
because we can base that, we can

1892
01:26:43.040 --> 01:26:47.040
rationally base our kindergarten classes

1893
01:26:45.040 --> 01:26:48.639
on those births. So, you know, we have

1894
01:26:47.040 --> 01:26:50.800
births today. We're not going to see

1895
01:26:48.639 --> 01:26:52.719
those kids in our system for 5 years.

1896
01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:54.960
So, we've got a kind of a 5year window

1897
01:26:52.719 --> 01:26:56.400
where we can get those kindergarteners

1898
01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:58.000
in through the system. When we start

1899
01:26:56.400 --> 01:27:00.400
getting out out beyond that, we're

1900
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:02.880
flying blind about what's feeding the

1901
01:27:00.400 --> 01:27:04.400
system that way. And then I'm sorry for

1902
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:05.760
having so many questions, but I find

1903
01:27:04.400 --> 01:27:07.360
this very helpful and it's been very

1904
01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:09.840
informative for me over the last three

1905
01:27:07.360 --> 01:27:13.280
years. Um, and I think it's useful to

1906
01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:14.639
our community as well. Uh, what is when

1907
01:27:13.280 --> 01:27:16.639
you look at the patterns of enrollment

1908
01:27:14.639 --> 01:27:19.040
year-over-year in your cohort model,

1909
01:27:16.639 --> 01:27:20.400
like I we have a bump from like

1910
01:27:19.040 --> 01:27:22.639
kindergarten to first grade, right?

1911
01:27:20.400 --> 01:27:23.840
Where people really want to get into the

1912
01:27:22.639 --> 01:27:25.280
elementary schools by first grade if

1913
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:25.760
they didn't end kindergarten. Is that

1914
01:27:25.280 --> 01:27:27.120
right?

1915
01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:28.639
>> Yeah, we have we've it's historically

1916
01:27:27.120 --> 01:27:31.040
had a little bit of a bump. There's also

1917
01:27:28.639 --> 01:27:33.679
some private kindergarten programs that

1918
01:27:31.040 --> 01:27:35.040
people attend um that they so they don't

1919
01:27:33.679 --> 01:27:36.639
come in till first grade.

1920
01:27:35.040 --> 01:27:38.480
>> All right. And how do you have very good

1921
01:27:36.639 --> 01:27:40.239
data on

1922
01:27:38.480 --> 01:27:41.520
uh the enrollment in the private schools

1923
01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:42.480
that are in the area and the degree of

1924
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:46.480
homeschooling?

1925
01:27:42.480 --> 01:27:48.239
>> That's a tough one. Um you know, we have

1926
01:27:46.480 --> 01:27:51.360
we have tried to do a spreadsheet

1927
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:53.280
modeling how many private schools we

1928
01:27:51.360 --> 01:27:55.679
have in the district and what their

1929
01:27:53.280 --> 01:27:57.840
populations are. They don't always

1930
01:27:55.679 --> 01:28:00.719
advertise how many students they have.

1931
01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:02.480
There's also CDE uh information that

1932
01:28:00.719 --> 01:28:05.600
tracks that. Most of that is

1933
01:28:02.480 --> 01:28:07.600
self-reported. Uh we can see schools on

1934
01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:09.199
those lists that haven't worked in year

1935
01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:11.280
haven't been functioning in years. We

1936
01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:13.199
see new schools that aren't on the list.

1937
01:28:11.280 --> 01:28:15.840
So given it's self-reported, especially

1938
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:18.320
from the homeschool angle, um we have

1939
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.600
data, but it is is I wouldn't consider

1940
01:28:18.320 --> 01:28:21.440
it very high quality.

1941
01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:23.600
>> Great. It's Yeah. And have you seen the

1942
01:28:21.440 --> 01:28:25.199
recent data from CDE on online

1943
01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:27.199
enrollment and homeschool enrichment

1944
01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:29.280
enrollment? And does that come into our

1945
01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:32.000
calculations as well?

1946
01:28:29.280 --> 01:28:34.480
>> Um

1947
01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:36.080
so online enrollment in terms of within

1948
01:28:34.480 --> 01:28:37.920
the school district or

1949
01:28:36.080 --> 01:28:39.520
>> both in the district and out like

1950
01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:41.040
students we lose out to online

1951
01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:43.679
enrollment. uh it's a little bit of the

1952
01:28:41.040 --> 01:28:45.760
same principle where it's difficult to

1953
01:28:43.679 --> 01:28:46.960
get the quality control on those

1954
01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:49.280
especially you're talking online

1955
01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:50.800
programs that are are private or or

1956
01:28:49.280 --> 01:28:51.360
charter or things like that.

1957
01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:53.360
>> All right.

1958
01:28:51.360 --> 01:28:55.600
>> And then process-wise for us getting to

1959
01:28:53.360 --> 01:28:58.880
the proposal you've given us. Can you

1960
01:28:55.600 --> 01:29:00.960
tell me anything about uh like I like to

1961
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:02.960
see the analysis of the 47 people living

1962
01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:06.000
within a mile of Douglas as opposed to

1963
01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:08.480
466 at a place like Cole Creek. Can you

1964
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:10.560
tell us how much analysis you did of the

1965
01:29:08.480 --> 01:29:12.800
other regional proposals based on the

1966
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:14.639
ability to maintain uh neighborhood

1967
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:16.080
schools that are walkable and walkable

1968
01:29:14.639 --> 01:29:18.480
distances to our schools?

1969
01:29:16.080 --> 01:29:20.719
>> Uh we we have run those numbers uh on

1970
01:29:18.480 --> 01:29:23.440
occasion uh to help help inform some of

1971
01:29:20.719 --> 01:29:25.199
our decisions and our process. Um we

1972
01:29:23.440 --> 01:29:28.320
don't have anything I think as specific

1973
01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:28.880
as what we show there um uh for every

1974
01:29:28.320 --> 01:29:31.600
school.

1975
01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:35.360
>> Yeah. And then in a in a region like um

1976
01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:37.840
Broomfield for example uh how much of

1977
01:29:35.360 --> 01:29:39.840
the decision-m is based on those

1978
01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:41.120
neighborhoods versus the what's in the

1979
01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:42.480
res I mean I guess we'll get to that

1980
01:29:41.120 --> 01:29:45.600
later so I I should be sticking to the

1981
01:29:42.480 --> 01:29:48.719
methodology questions but um we're able

1982
01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:50.320
to take into account the walkability of

1983
01:29:48.719 --> 01:29:52.159
the neighborhoods the streets that need

1984
01:29:50.320 --> 01:29:55.120
to be crossed the transportation that

1985
01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:56.239
happens. Uh, we've been briefed as I

1986
01:29:55.120 --> 01:29:57.840
don't know if the new board members

1987
01:29:56.239 --> 01:30:00.159
have, but we've been briefed on like our

1988
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:04.159
bicycling programs and our walkable

1989
01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:05.760
programs to the schools. Um, I I value

1990
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:07.120
greatly both the choice and the

1991
01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:08.719
neighborhood schools, and I'd love to

1992
01:30:07.120 --> 01:30:11.600
see everybody walk in and the ebikes

1993
01:30:08.719 --> 01:30:13.840
with their kids going to school. Um, do

1994
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:16.000
we have very good data um on how many of

1995
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:18.719
our kids walk to their elementary

1996
01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:20.960
schools versus ride or get dropped off

1997
01:30:18.719 --> 01:30:23.440
or ride a bus? I do know the

1998
01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:26.400
transportation tracks some of that um

1999
01:30:23.440 --> 01:30:28.320
mostly through the programs they run. Um

2000
01:30:26.400 --> 01:30:30.080
but you know outside of those programs

2001
01:30:28.320 --> 01:30:32.400
I'm not sure there's a lot of numbers

2002
01:30:30.080 --> 01:30:33.920
out there that we can go from. Rob might

2003
01:30:32.400 --> 01:30:36.000
have some more to add.

2004
01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:38.000
>> Yeah. The annual survey that parents

2005
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:40.239
complete and we now have very accurate

2006
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:42.719
data on how families get to school, how

2007
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:46.159
students get to school. Can Rob, could

2008
01:30:42.719 --> 01:30:48.239
you give me just a brief synopsis of how

2009
01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:50.480
many of our current elementary kids like

2010
01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:51.199
walk to school versus how many don't

2011
01:30:50.480 --> 01:30:52.719
walk?

2012
01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:53.920
>> Give me, if you can give me until the

2013
01:30:52.719 --> 01:30:57.199
end of the work session, I'll have that

2014
01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:59.280
for you. I can say we are double uh the

2015
01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:01.040
um state average, double the national

2016
01:30:59.280 --> 01:31:02.560
average on how many kids walk and bike

2017
01:31:01.040 --> 01:31:04.560
to school. But I will get that for you.

2018
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:06.639
>> But it's not something everybody can do

2019
01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:08.800
and there's no way how would we be able

2020
01:31:06.639 --> 01:31:10.800
to arrange that without closing schools.

2021
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:12.880
I mean, we've got a lot of geographies

2022
01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:13.199
where walking is currently not possible,

2023
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:14.159
right?

2024
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:14.560
>> That is true.

2025
01:31:14.159 --> 01:31:16.560
>> Yes.

2026
01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:18.159
>> And do our schools vary dramatically in

2027
01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:19.840
terms of how many kids can walk to them

2028
01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:21.520
versus not?

2029
01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:23.280
>> You know, it depends on the region where

2030
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:25.120
they're at. Um, all of our

2031
01:31:23.280 --> 01:31:26.960
municipalities when you think about the

2032
01:31:25.120 --> 01:31:29.360
infrastructure that Boulder has put in,

2033
01:31:26.960 --> 01:31:32.320
the infrastructure Lewisville Superior

2034
01:31:29.360 --> 01:31:36.159
has put in, uh, even Broomfield in many

2035
01:31:32.320 --> 01:31:38.560
cases, uh, support walking and biking to

2036
01:31:36.159 --> 01:31:40.719
schools, right? So, I mean that shows in

2037
01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:42.480
the the amount of work that

2038
01:31:40.719 --> 01:31:45.280
municipalities have put into that and

2039
01:31:42.480 --> 01:31:48.080
that has been a board priority that has

2040
01:31:45.280 --> 01:31:50.000
as uh Dr. Alzine uh communicated that

2041
01:31:48.080 --> 01:31:51.840
was a community priority as we're

2042
01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:53.520
looking at this. So, yes, we did look at

2043
01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:55.280
how many students live within a mile of

2044
01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:57.120
the school knowing that's a priority.

2045
01:31:55.280 --> 01:31:59.280
And let me just add also for my new

2046
01:31:57.120 --> 01:32:01.360
board members, one of the big calculus

2047
01:31:59.280 --> 01:32:03.199
for me and well just supporting it's

2048
01:32:01.360 --> 01:32:05.679
great that kids can bike and walk to

2049
01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:07.040
school, but it also contributes to

2050
01:32:05.679 --> 01:32:09.120
greater likelihood that they're going to

2051
01:32:07.040 --> 01:32:10.639
attend their neighborhood school. And so

2052
01:32:09.120 --> 01:32:12.080
if parents have to get in a car to get

2053
01:32:10.639 --> 01:32:13.280
their kid to their neighborhood school,

2054
01:32:12.080 --> 01:32:14.639
then they're like, "Oh, as long as I'm

2055
01:32:13.280 --> 01:32:16.800
in a car, what are the other ones within

2056
01:32:14.639 --> 01:32:19.360
15 miles?" So the more we can make our

2057
01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:22.560
schools be designed around walkability

2058
01:32:19.360 --> 01:32:25.040
and access by bike and foot or parents

2059
01:32:22.560 --> 01:32:26.960
walking their kids, the more we can

2060
01:32:25.040 --> 01:32:30.800
support enrollment in our neighborhood

2061
01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:32.960
schools was part of my point.

2062
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:34.080
>> Yes, shout out to our safe routes to

2063
01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:35.760
school team and all the work they do

2064
01:32:34.080 --> 01:32:38.000
with our municipalities to make that

2065
01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:39.679
happen. Um moving on to Anna and then

2066
01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:43.679
Dion.

2067
01:32:39.679 --> 01:32:46.960
um the regional approach of um the

2068
01:32:43.679 --> 01:32:50.239
proposal. I also want to get clarity on

2069
01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:54.639
um the methodology on data that was used

2070
01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:57.600
and the projections for enrollment. Um,

2071
01:32:54.639 --> 01:33:00.639
primarily I ask because the uh,

2072
01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:03.440
enrollment decline isn't as steep in

2073
01:33:00.639 --> 01:33:05.679
Broomfield as it is in Boulder and I

2074
01:33:03.440 --> 01:33:07.520
want to know what those numbers and if

2075
01:33:05.679 --> 01:33:11.040
that model was used separately for

2076
01:33:07.520 --> 01:33:12.880
Broomfield versus within Boulder proper.

2077
01:33:11.040 --> 01:33:16.000
>> Well, will we calculate projections for

2078
01:33:12.880 --> 01:33:18.880
each individual school? So, yes, we we

2079
01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:20.719
can sum up the schools in Broomfield um

2080
01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:22.080
those those school projections that

2081
01:33:20.719 --> 01:33:23.600
would be unique to Broomfield. They're

2082
01:33:22.080 --> 01:33:26.560
not averaged with Boulder or anything

2083
01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:28.239
like that if that answers your question.

2084
01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:31.120
>> Yeah. And what did that what did that

2085
01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:35.120
look like for um the Boulder or the

2086
01:33:31.120 --> 01:33:37.280
sorry the Broomfield area of um the

2087
01:33:35.120 --> 01:33:39.679
declining enrollment and its projections

2088
01:33:37.280 --> 01:33:41.679
within the next 5 years. So with

2089
01:33:39.679 --> 01:33:43.199
Broomfield's has been a little different

2090
01:33:41.679 --> 01:33:46.080
than the other parts of the district

2091
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:48.320
where Boulder and Lewisville and

2092
01:33:46.080 --> 01:33:52.159
Lafayette grew quite a bit through the

2093
01:33:48.320 --> 01:33:54.880
2000s and 2010s um until this recent

2094
01:33:52.159 --> 01:33:57.120
trend. Uh Broomfield has been on a long

2095
01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:58.719
just very slow decline for pretty much

2096
01:33:57.120 --> 01:34:01.679
that whole time for years and years and

2097
01:33:58.719 --> 01:34:03.600
years. So we've kind of uh projected a

2098
01:34:01.679 --> 01:34:05.280
similar pattern going into the future.

2099
01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:07.440
Now the caveat to that always is open

2100
01:34:05.280 --> 01:34:08.880
enrollment. Broomfield is located so

2101
01:34:07.440 --> 01:34:11.760
that they can pull in lots of open

2102
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:13.600
enrollment and we can see that best

2103
01:34:11.760 --> 01:34:15.920
illustrated on that chart right there

2104
01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:18.239
from Aspen Creek which is half open

2105
01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:19.760
enrollment. So that does skew things a

2106
01:34:18.239 --> 01:34:21.679
little bit but the resident population

2107
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:24.080
the underlying population has been on a

2108
01:34:21.679 --> 01:34:27.520
long slow decline for quite some time.

2109
01:34:24.080 --> 01:34:30.560
>> Yeah. And in that uh methodology because

2110
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:33.040
we do have um Broomfield again is

2111
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:37.360
different than uh within Boulder County

2112
01:34:33.040 --> 01:34:42.159
that we do have um space for growth and

2113
01:34:37.360 --> 01:34:45.040
we do have um multifamily single family

2114
01:34:42.159 --> 01:34:48.639
housing being actively built right now.

2115
01:34:45.040 --> 01:34:51.360
primarily Dylan Point that has over 300

2116
01:34:48.639 --> 01:34:53.840
uh houses being built that would be um

2117
01:34:51.360 --> 01:34:55.280
districted into the Aspen Creek um

2118
01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:58.000
neighborhood into the Aspen Creek

2119
01:34:55.280 --> 01:35:00.560
schools. And so I also wondering what

2120
01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:04.480
the models look like and the projections

2121
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:06.560
look like in that included active

2122
01:35:04.480 --> 01:35:08.639
housing developments in Brimfield.

2123
01:35:06.560 --> 01:35:10.880
>> So with active housing developments, the

2124
01:35:08.639 --> 01:35:12.480
the Dylan point is a is a great example.

2125
01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:15.520
I don't really expect that to increase

2126
01:35:12.480 --> 01:35:17.360
enrollments because as we as we showed

2127
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:19.360
in the previous slides, we can manage

2128
01:35:17.360 --> 01:35:21.120
open enrollment uh because Aspen Creek's

2129
01:35:19.360 --> 01:35:22.560
full, but we can just manage open

2130
01:35:21.120 --> 01:35:23.920
enrollment that that side of the

2131
01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:26.400
equation to allow more of those

2132
01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:29.120
neighborhood kids into that school. Um

2133
01:35:26.400 --> 01:35:30.880
other active developments um I know

2134
01:35:29.120 --> 01:35:34.239
there's a few concept plans out there

2135
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:35.840
and possibly an apartment kind of in

2136
01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:39.040
Emerald's area, a couple of apartment

2137
01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:40.719
complexes. um those uh apartment

2138
01:35:39.040 --> 01:35:43.280
complexes in Emerald area have not

2139
01:35:40.719 --> 01:35:45.920
generated many students at all. Um I

2140
01:35:43.280 --> 01:35:48.080
mean there's some with um you know close

2141
01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:50.400
to eight or 900 units that are have

2142
01:35:48.080 --> 01:35:53.440
maybe a dozen kids or something in them.

2143
01:35:50.400 --> 01:35:56.239
>> Okay. And uh

2144
01:35:53.440 --> 01:35:59.679
I guess my other uh just my biggest

2145
01:35:56.239 --> 01:36:02.320
worry is that we're uh Broomfield is

2146
01:35:59.679 --> 01:36:04.000
growing and they do have more plans on

2147
01:36:02.320 --> 01:36:06.159
creating more housing developments

2148
01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:09.040
within Broomfield. um that we're not

2149
01:36:06.159 --> 01:36:11.199
leaving enough space for growth um for

2150
01:36:09.040 --> 01:36:13.760
the ability to have room for our

2151
01:36:11.199 --> 01:36:17.040
students within Cole or Aspen Creek or

2152
01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:18.560
at Emerald. Um, and I just want to

2153
01:36:17.040 --> 01:36:20.400
because the landscape since this

2154
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:23.440
proposal came out, the educational

2155
01:36:20.400 --> 01:36:25.840
landscape has changed um, with Adams

2156
01:36:23.440 --> 01:36:28.000
County and I understand that it's not

2157
01:36:25.840 --> 01:36:29.520
feasible to bank on open enrollment,

2158
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:31.360
especially when you're in places like

2159
01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:34.159
Broomfield proper where it's maybe like

2160
01:36:31.360 --> 01:36:36.159
10 15 kids, but you did just say that in

2161
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:38.960
Broomfield it is different because we do

2162
01:36:36.159 --> 01:36:41.040
have half open enrollment in Aspen Creek

2163
01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:44.800
and with the Adams County closing

2164
01:36:41.040 --> 01:36:49.360
schools within Broomfield that the

2165
01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:51.679
educational landscape um in that city uh

2166
01:36:49.360 --> 01:36:54.080
has changed since the the development of

2167
01:36:51.679 --> 01:36:56.960
this proposal. And I want to know if

2168
01:36:54.080 --> 01:36:59.679
there has been any reconsideration on

2169
01:36:56.960 --> 01:37:01.520
the data on enrollment. Not necessarily

2170
01:36:59.679 --> 01:37:03.199
that we're banking on open enrollment

2171
01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:05.520
and that we're using any of those

2172
01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:08.719
numbers for our projections, but what

2173
01:37:05.520 --> 01:37:12.719
does that look like in terms of

2174
01:37:08.719 --> 01:37:14.480
projected and um calculated capacity

2175
01:37:12.719 --> 01:37:17.880
within the next 5 to 10 years in our

2176
01:37:14.480 --> 01:37:17.880
schools in Broomfield?

2177
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:20.719
>> Thank you for those questions and I

2178
01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:22.159
appreciate that. I know these are

2179
01:37:20.719 --> 01:37:24.400
questions that that folks in our

2180
01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:26.159
community are asking as well. Um, you

2181
01:37:24.400 --> 01:37:29.119
know, a couple things and I'll let Rob

2182
01:37:26.159 --> 01:37:31.840
or Glenn jump in. Uh, so Adams 12 hasn't

2183
01:37:29.119 --> 01:37:33.600
voted on their proposal yet, right? So

2184
01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:35.360
they have a proposal out there to the

2185
01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:38.719
extent that that will be voted on or

2186
01:37:35.360 --> 01:37:40.960
not. I I think that it's really

2187
01:37:38.719 --> 01:37:42.719
I mean the issues in Broomfield are

2188
01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:46.400
being magnified that multiple school

2189
01:37:42.719 --> 01:37:48.400
districts are all closing schools,

2190
01:37:46.400 --> 01:37:52.960
consolidating schools, reconfiguring

2191
01:37:48.400 --> 01:37:55.440
schools. Um, so it would be impossible

2192
01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:57.920
a to know what Adams 12 board is going

2193
01:37:55.440 --> 01:38:00.960
to do. that's that's outside of our our

2194
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:02.239
control. Um it's really if but if

2195
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:04.639
they're closing because they don't have

2196
01:38:02.239 --> 01:38:06.239
enough kids to fill their schools, the

2197
01:38:04.639 --> 01:38:10.800
idea that they'd have enough kids to

2198
01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:12.239
fill our schools in a decline in

2199
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:14.800
England. Maybe you want to talk about

2200
01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:16.320
the significant decline at Birch over

2201
01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:17.840
the ne the course of the next five

2202
01:38:16.320 --> 01:38:19.440
years, one of the steepest declines that

2203
01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:22.080
we have projected in our entire school

2204
01:38:19.440 --> 01:38:25.440
district. Um, and then talk a little bit

2205
01:38:22.080 --> 01:38:27.360
about this idea of of and and just

2206
01:38:25.440 --> 01:38:29.520
reiterate this fact around resident

2207
01:38:27.360 --> 01:38:31.760
student population and open enrollment,

2208
01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:34.080
the variability in open enrollment in PL

2209
01:38:31.760 --> 01:38:36.400
in and things that were that are really

2210
01:38:34.080 --> 01:38:37.920
very much outside of our control. So,

2211
01:38:36.400 --> 01:38:39.199
I'll turn it over to Robert Glenn to

2212
01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:41.280
kind of talk that, but I would just want

2213
01:38:39.199 --> 01:38:43.280
to make sure that um we don't know what

2214
01:38:41.280 --> 01:38:44.880
Adams 12 will do and when is there when

2215
01:38:43.280 --> 01:38:45.920
are they voting?

2216
01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:47.520
>> Yeah, it's after us.

2217
01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:49.679
>> So, their vote would be after us. So we

2218
01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:53.920
couldn't consider that

2219
01:38:49.679 --> 01:38:55.920
>> next few weeks I would imagine. Um I

2220
01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:59.600
want to bring to our attention this

2221
01:38:55.920 --> 01:39:01.840
slide. Right. So uh back in October

2222
01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:04.560
allowing schools to stay small is no

2223
01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:07.280
longer an option. So when we look at

2224
01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:09.119
Birch's enrollment for example you can

2225
01:39:07.280 --> 01:39:13.760
see that in the next five years we're

2226
01:39:09.119 --> 01:39:16.719
just barely over 200 students 208

2227
01:39:13.760 --> 01:39:20.239
Cole Elementary in the next five years.

2228
01:39:16.719 --> 01:39:23.040
uh what around 220

2229
01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:26.239
give me one second

2230
01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:28.400
uh 266 sick students based on our

2231
01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:30.400
projections and then when you look at

2232
01:39:28.400 --> 01:39:32.239
Aspen Creek at the very bottom of the

2233
01:39:30.400 --> 01:39:33.600
slide I think that is an important and

2234
01:39:32.239 --> 01:39:36.239
we're going to get into this later in

2235
01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:38.320
this presentation but half of Aspen

2236
01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:40.400
Creek's enrollment right now is based on

2237
01:39:38.320 --> 01:39:43.040
open enrollment from either inside or

2238
01:39:40.400 --> 01:39:45.119
outside the district. So if resident

2239
01:39:43.040 --> 01:39:48.320
student population increases, we use the

2240
01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:50.719
levers of open enrollment to drive

2241
01:39:48.320 --> 01:39:53.119
additional capacity within that school.

2242
01:39:50.719 --> 01:39:55.040
And again, uh Dr. Neil Anderson's going

2243
01:39:53.119 --> 01:39:56.960
to be speaking to this on how we use

2244
01:39:55.040 --> 01:39:59.119
those levers. Those students will

2245
01:39:56.960 --> 01:40:01.280
metriculate out of the system. We are

2246
01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:03.360
slowing open enrollment down into Aspen

2247
01:40:01.280 --> 01:40:06.320
Creek right now to allow that to happen.

2248
01:40:03.360 --> 01:40:08.080
So we have plenty of capacity within the

2249
01:40:06.320 --> 01:40:11.040
Broomfield schools based on the

2250
01:40:08.080 --> 01:40:13.040
development that we are seeing with the

2251
01:40:11.040 --> 01:40:15.040
three schools not counting the fourth

2252
01:40:13.040 --> 01:40:18.320
school in Broomfield

2253
01:40:15.040 --> 01:40:20.400
utilizing the le levers that that we

2254
01:40:18.320 --> 01:40:21.920
have. I would say from a planning and

2255
01:40:20.400 --> 01:40:24.239
operational standpoint it is our

2256
01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:26.159
responsibility to plan for the number of

2257
01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:27.840
resident students we have in an area.

2258
01:40:26.159 --> 01:40:30.320
Right? That's as Glenn started there.

2259
01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:32.880
That's the foundation of our system is

2260
01:40:30.320 --> 01:40:34.719
to plan for that. If we can allow

2261
01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:36.080
additional students from inside the

2262
01:40:34.719 --> 01:40:38.719
district or outside the district to

2263
01:40:36.080 --> 01:40:41.119
attend schools, that's great. And and

2264
01:40:38.719 --> 01:40:42.480
thinking back in just 10 years ago, you

2265
01:40:41.119 --> 01:40:44.480
know, the number of students that

2266
01:40:42.480 --> 01:40:47.199
attended their uh their neighborhood

2267
01:40:44.480 --> 01:40:49.360
school was 70%. Today it's 63% because

2268
01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:51.440
we have space available, right? The

2269
01:40:49.360 --> 01:40:54.800
number was even higher when we were even

2270
01:40:51.440 --> 01:40:56.800
fuller in this district. So I would just

2271
01:40:54.800 --> 01:40:58.800
say that we we have a number of

2272
01:40:56.800 --> 01:41:01.679
mechanisms. Open enrollment being the

2273
01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:03.360
primary one. uh if we had to create

2274
01:41:01.679 --> 01:41:04.560
additional capacity within a building,

2275
01:41:03.360 --> 01:41:06.080
we could also do that. We're going to

2276
01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:08.239
talk a little bit about that a little

2277
01:41:06.080 --> 01:41:11.360
later in the presentation.

2278
01:41:08.239 --> 01:41:13.760
But we feel comfortable based on the

2279
01:41:11.360 --> 01:41:15.360
developments we know about the five-year

2280
01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:17.360
projections

2281
01:41:15.360 --> 01:41:19.520
by having three schools in Broomfield

2282
01:41:17.360 --> 01:41:21.280
without the fourth. Based on our

2283
01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:24.400
projections, that's a three round school

2284
01:41:21.280 --> 01:41:27.440
about 470 empty seats in Broomfield if

2285
01:41:24.400 --> 01:41:30.159
we do nothing. So that's how I guess I

2286
01:41:27.440 --> 01:41:32.000
would answer that is again it when we

2287
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:33.600
think about this we're really grounding

2288
01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:35.760
ourselves in the number of resident

2289
01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:38.719
students that live in the area and we

2290
01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:42.639
see that declining.

2291
01:41:38.719 --> 01:41:45.199
And just one followup on to that, the

2292
01:41:42.639 --> 01:41:47.920
within this data of enrollment um

2293
01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:52.239
specifically for Birch going into Cole

2294
01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:55.679
um were any of the uh walkability and

2295
01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:58.400
traffic pollution into on Midway and

2296
01:41:55.679 --> 01:42:01.360
10th considered of how much that would

2297
01:41:58.400 --> 01:42:02.960
congest um cuz it goes right by the high

2298
01:42:01.360 --> 01:42:05.679
school and it goes right by the middle

2299
01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:07.600
school. And for that neighborhood, those

2300
01:42:05.679 --> 01:42:12.080
are really the only two roads that would

2301
01:42:07.600 --> 01:42:15.119
be able to get us to Cole. Um what what

2302
01:42:12.080 --> 01:42:17.600
were the um

2303
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:20.159
the transportation calculations used

2304
01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:21.679
within this part of the methodology?

2305
01:42:20.159 --> 01:42:24.239
>> Great question and something we

2306
01:42:21.679 --> 01:42:26.239
analyzed. Uh as a reminder, elementary

2307
01:42:24.239 --> 01:42:28.560
schools in that area start at 7:50.

2308
01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:30.719
Aspen Creek's a little bit later. High

2309
01:42:28.560 --> 01:42:32.719
school starts at 8:35. I believe the

2310
01:42:30.719 --> 01:42:36.239
middle school starts at 8:45. So, we

2311
01:42:32.719 --> 01:42:38.800
feel very conf confident that we can uh

2312
01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:40.880
the roads, etc. around there can handle

2313
01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:43.040
the additional traffic over to Cole.

2314
01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:44.639
Cole lends itself. It has a really nice

2315
01:42:43.040 --> 01:42:46.320
site. A lot of queuing all the way

2316
01:42:44.639 --> 01:42:48.400
around Cole Elementary, something that

2317
01:42:46.320 --> 01:42:50.639
Birch has lacks, something that we've

2318
01:42:48.400 --> 01:42:52.480
actually struggled with for many years.

2319
01:42:50.639 --> 01:42:54.159
Um, so yes, a lot of thought has been in

2320
01:42:52.480 --> 01:42:56.880
that, but the bell time separation

2321
01:42:54.159 --> 01:43:00.639
provides for uh good traffic in and out

2322
01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:04.159
of all the schools in that area.

2323
01:43:00.639 --> 01:43:06.400
I'm going to go um Jason and then Deian

2324
01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:09.280
and board members. I had thought about a

2325
01:43:06.400 --> 01:43:10.480
comfort break at slide 24, but that

2326
01:43:09.280 --> 01:43:12.480
really depends on how many more

2327
01:43:10.480 --> 01:43:15.280
questions we have until we get there.

2328
01:43:12.480 --> 01:43:17.440
So, um

2329
01:43:15.280 --> 01:43:22.920
stay tuned and if someone needs a break

2330
01:43:17.440 --> 01:43:22.920
before 24, you just let me know.

2331
01:43:23.360 --> 01:43:28.239
>> Okay. Um yeah, thanks. I also want to

2332
01:43:26.400 --> 01:43:29.679
move on to the next topic, but I I

2333
01:43:28.239 --> 01:43:32.480
wanted to, you know, we've talked a lot

2334
01:43:29.679 --> 01:43:34.400
about this October 2025 date and the

2335
01:43:32.480 --> 01:43:36.880
shift. Um, you know, I've been on the

2336
01:43:34.400 --> 01:43:38.560
board three years. It was probably the

2337
01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:40.320
biggest issue when many of us were

2338
01:43:38.560 --> 01:43:42.400
campaigning. It was an issue when we got

2339
01:43:40.320 --> 01:43:44.639
on the board. Um, you know, Glenn, you

2340
01:43:42.400 --> 01:43:46.080
talked about this since 2012. Nicole has

2341
01:43:44.639 --> 01:43:48.159
talked about how long this has been an

2342
01:43:46.080 --> 01:43:50.320
issue and Alex as well. But something

2343
01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:53.920
did shift in the last few years that

2344
01:43:50.320 --> 01:43:55.520
caused us as a board to move from LRACK,

2345
01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:58.159
which as others have said is really just

2346
01:43:55.520 --> 01:44:01.280
an advisory committee and not dictating

2347
01:43:58.159 --> 01:44:02.480
direction, uh to this regional approach.

2348
01:44:01.280 --> 01:44:04.639
And so I really I think it's important

2349
01:44:02.480 --> 01:44:06.400
that we make this connection between the

2350
01:44:04.639 --> 01:44:08.080
projections, the enrollment numbers over

2351
01:44:06.400 --> 01:44:10.159
the last two or three years, which have

2352
01:44:08.080 --> 01:44:12.080
from what I remember really did change

2353
01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:13.920
and even though historically very

2354
01:44:12.080 --> 01:44:16.000
accurate, Glenn, I think have come in

2355
01:44:13.920 --> 01:44:18.159
lower than projected in the last two

2356
01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:20.560
years. uh and make that connection

2357
01:44:18.159 --> 01:44:22.880
between that data, the the actual

2358
01:44:20.560 --> 01:44:27.639
enrollment and why we had to move and

2359
01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:27.639
make this shift in October of last year.

2360
01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:31.840
>> Just real quick because I want to honor

2361
01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:33.760
the work that our long range advisory

2362
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:34.800
committee has done

2363
01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:38.239
>> and I didn't mean to be

2364
01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:40.000
>> No, no, no, no. I for everyone I've you

2365
01:44:38.239 --> 01:44:41.920
know I think people have looked at this

2366
01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:42.800
like this these were metrics individual

2367
01:44:41.920 --> 01:44:44.560
schools

2368
01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:46.320
>> the metrics were always established as

2369
01:44:44.560 --> 01:44:48.239
an early warning system. We have said

2370
01:44:46.320 --> 01:44:49.840
that at many many meetings when

2371
01:44:48.239 --> 01:44:52.560
long-range advisory committee gave an

2372
01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:55.920
update. Long-range advisory committee

2373
01:44:52.560 --> 01:44:57.520
and these were uh uh the recommendations

2374
01:44:55.920 --> 01:45:01.280
the metrics that were presented to the

2375
01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:03.199
board back in June of 23 always stated

2376
01:45:01.280 --> 01:45:05.360
that decision-m should be in the context

2377
01:45:03.199 --> 01:45:08.480
looking at geographic areas or multiple

2378
01:45:05.360 --> 01:45:12.000
schools at the same time. Right? So they

2379
01:45:08.480 --> 01:45:14.400
even recommended this. So we had to have

2380
01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:16.159
a metric that told us where schools were

2381
01:45:14.400 --> 01:45:17.520
at and we centered that around the

2382
01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:20.000
student experience. That's how we came

2383
01:45:17.520 --> 01:45:22.080
to the two classes per grade level. We

2384
01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:24.159
tied the finances or the operational

2385
01:45:22.080 --> 01:45:28.000
efficiency within the utilization of the

2386
01:45:24.159 --> 01:45:30.880
building. So way back when we had said

2387
01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:32.639
this, we started Heatherwood's

2388
01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:33.920
engagement process out of the gate and I

2389
01:45:32.639 --> 01:45:35.520
think that's where people are like oh

2390
01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:37.840
they're looking at this as a school by

2391
01:45:35.520 --> 01:45:40.320
school uh basis. We did that because

2392
01:45:37.840 --> 01:45:42.239
Heatherwood was four miles or six miles

2393
01:45:40.320 --> 01:45:44.239
away from Crest View, four and a half or

2394
01:45:42.239 --> 01:45:46.960
so miles away from Douglas Elementary

2395
01:45:44.239 --> 01:45:48.880
School. It sat in a unique geographic

2396
01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:51.199
area. It was one of the very first

2397
01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:53.040
schools out of the gate. So, we started

2398
01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:55.360
that engagement process on a singular

2399
01:45:53.040 --> 01:45:58.320
school. And then it was the board that

2400
01:45:55.360 --> 01:45:59.920
said, "Hold on, looking at this

2401
01:45:58.320 --> 01:46:02.000
school by school isn't acceptable."

2402
01:45:59.920 --> 01:46:03.679
That's when we really had to go to a

2403
01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:05.440
regional approach because declining

2404
01:46:03.679 --> 01:46:07.440
enrollment was being felt throughout the

2405
01:46:05.440 --> 01:46:09.199
district. This is where we really

2406
01:46:07.440 --> 01:46:11.119
created some equitable experiences,

2407
01:46:09.199 --> 01:46:13.199
inequitable experiences across their

2408
01:46:11.119 --> 01:46:14.320
district where you go to a three- round

2409
01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:16.239
school and they have a full-time

2410
01:46:14.320 --> 01:46:18.880
counselor, art, music, and PE, and you

2411
01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:20.960
go to a school that's got 150 students,

2412
01:46:18.880 --> 01:46:22.719
and they don't have near that. And I

2413
01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:25.360
think you as board members said, "This

2414
01:46:22.719 --> 01:46:27.040
is not acceptable. We've created this

2415
01:46:25.360 --> 01:46:28.400
with declining enrollment, and there's

2416
01:46:27.040 --> 01:46:30.800
something that we have to do about it."

2417
01:46:28.400 --> 01:46:32.480
So, I I'm speaking a little bit for the

2418
01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:35.040
board. That's the direction that I felt

2419
01:46:32.480 --> 01:46:38.080
like we received. Um, but I will say

2420
01:46:35.040 --> 01:46:40.400
that when the majority of our schools

2421
01:46:38.080 --> 01:46:42.639
got below two classes per grade level in

2422
01:46:40.400 --> 01:46:44.960
these areas, again was when the board

2423
01:46:42.639 --> 01:46:46.719
said we have to take a regional approach

2424
01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:49.119
to this

2425
01:46:46.719 --> 01:46:51.119
and that that was again determined off

2426
01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:53.600
of the metrics that were established by

2427
01:46:51.119 --> 01:46:55.520
LRAK to be able to again give you an

2428
01:46:53.600 --> 01:46:57.440
early warning system that we've got

2429
01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:58.960
challenges at these lower enrolled

2430
01:46:57.440 --> 01:47:01.920
schools. They don't have the resources

2431
01:46:58.960 --> 01:47:05.880
that some of our other schools have. So,

2432
01:47:01.920 --> 01:47:05.880
you have anything to add to that?

2433
01:47:07.440 --> 01:47:11.280
>> Then depart and then Alex,

2434
01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:13.440
>> it sounds like some of my questions can

2435
01:47:11.280 --> 01:47:16.560
be deferred because someone's going to

2436
01:47:13.440 --> 01:47:19.040
talk about these mysterious levers of

2437
01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:20.639
open enrollment at some point that

2438
01:47:19.040 --> 01:47:21.760
>> it's actually the next two slides. Okay,

2439
01:47:20.639 --> 01:47:23.679
good.

2440
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:27.040
>> Not not mysterious at all. That we'll be

2441
01:47:23.679 --> 01:47:28.560
able to explain those explicitly.

2442
01:47:27.040 --> 01:47:32.320
It's one of those words that you don't

2443
01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:35.920
really know what it means, right? Um,

2444
01:47:32.320 --> 01:47:39.760
but I do want to also say I'm guessing

2445
01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:44.480
that a biking, walking

2446
01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:48.760
um projection to schools does not uh

2447
01:47:44.480 --> 01:47:48.760
make any sense in the mountain schools.

2448
01:47:49.679 --> 01:47:52.560
>> I would say it would not make any sense

2449
01:47:51.360 --> 01:47:54.480
in the mountain schools. Those kids

2450
01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:56.400
already get or our students already get

2451
01:47:54.480 --> 01:47:57.360
transportation in the mountain areas.

2452
01:47:56.400 --> 01:47:58.960
Yep.

2453
01:47:57.360 --> 01:48:02.080
>> Was there any consideration to put

2454
01:47:58.960 --> 01:48:04.000
Douglas as a rural place instead of an

2455
01:48:02.080 --> 01:48:08.040
urban place?

2456
01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:08.040
>> No, there was not.

2457
01:48:08.719 --> 01:48:12.520
>> Jorge and then Alex.

2458
01:48:13.679 --> 01:48:17.600
>> Thank you. Um I appreciate the

2459
01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:19.119
discussion just understanding kind of

2460
01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:20.800
what do the numbers represent, where do

2461
01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:22.400
our estimates come from, kind of how

2462
01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:23.840
complex it is. So I want to go back to

2463
01:48:22.400 --> 01:48:25.840
the methodology part. I know you've

2464
01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:28.159
mentioned um yields from developments

2465
01:48:25.840 --> 01:48:30.560
and how tricky that is moving forward.

2466
01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:31.679
But um based on the estimates for yields

2467
01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:33.199
for the existing developments that

2468
01:48:31.679 --> 01:48:36.159
already in place, are we seeing what

2469
01:48:33.199 --> 01:48:38.560
they expected or how has that outlook

2470
01:48:36.159 --> 01:48:41.440
changed um in the last couple years?

2471
01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:44.560
>> Well, so we do that analysis every few

2472
01:48:41.440 --> 01:48:46.960
years. It's been I think 2023 since

2473
01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:49.199
we've done that. We're due for another

2474
01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:51.760
um update of the bigger document. I do a

2475
01:48:49.199 --> 01:48:53.360
lot of spot checking. Um, and not so

2476
01:48:51.760 --> 01:48:55.760
much on existing housing, but new

2477
01:48:53.360 --> 01:48:57.119
housing. Um, in conversations with

2478
01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:59.040
surrounding districts, everybody's

2479
01:48:57.119 --> 01:49:01.199
saying how few students we're seeing in

2480
01:48:59.040 --> 01:49:02.880
new housing. Uh, and we're seeing the

2481
01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:05.600
same. Actually, the yields I've

2482
01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:08.080
established for new housing are have

2483
01:49:05.600 --> 01:49:11.760
been coming in about half of what they

2484
01:49:08.080 --> 01:49:13.280
typically are. Um, so there's a lot of

2485
01:49:11.760 --> 01:49:15.520
housing dynamic stuff I've heard that

2486
01:49:13.280 --> 01:49:17.280
may explain some of that, but yields are

2487
01:49:15.520 --> 01:49:20.239
coming in considerably lower just in

2488
01:49:17.280 --> 01:49:22.400
these last year or two.

2489
01:49:20.239 --> 01:49:24.159
>> Give you a very specific example what

2490
01:49:22.400 --> 01:49:25.840
we're seeing at Parkdale. For example,

2491
01:49:24.159 --> 01:49:28.719
we assume that we would see one

2492
01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:30.880
elementary student for every uh four

2493
01:49:28.719 --> 01:49:32.719
rooftops. And right now, we're seeing

2494
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:34.960
one elementary student for about every

2495
01:49:32.719 --> 01:49:36.400
eight rooftops out there. So, as Glenn

2496
01:49:34.960 --> 01:49:38.800
talks about half, just to put some

2497
01:49:36.400 --> 01:49:40.480
numbers to it, that's one singular

2498
01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:42.080
development, but it is what we are

2499
01:49:40.480 --> 01:49:44.480
seeing across the district with a lot of

2500
01:49:42.080 --> 01:49:45.840
these developments.

2501
01:49:44.480 --> 01:49:46.880
>> Thank you. I appreciate that context. I

2502
01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:48.480
think it's an important part of the

2503
01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:52.440
larger trend that we're seeing with uh

2504
01:49:48.480 --> 01:49:52.440
enrollment pattern. Thank you.

2505
01:49:52.480 --> 01:49:56.880
Um, I know we're going to talk about

2506
01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:59.440
open enrollment, but uh, like I look at

2507
01:49:56.880 --> 01:50:02.320
the like the Broomfield schools and I

2508
01:49:59.440 --> 01:50:04.960
see something like 280 out of district

2509
01:50:02.320 --> 01:50:07.840
kids enrolled in the Broomfield area.

2510
01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:09.920
How long does it take to like transition

2511
01:50:07.840 --> 01:50:11.679
with our enrollment preferences if we

2512
01:50:09.920 --> 01:50:13.920
wanted to replace that with in district

2513
01:50:11.679 --> 01:50:17.920
choice or with newly assigned folks

2514
01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:19.600
within the district? And we do that by

2515
01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:20.719
following our enrollment preferences,

2516
01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:22.320
right? and saying, "Hey, we're going to

2517
01:50:20.719 --> 01:50:23.520
preference kids within the district

2518
01:50:22.320 --> 01:50:26.080
ahead of the kids from out of the

2519
01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:28.000
district," which over time replaces the

2520
01:50:26.080 --> 01:50:29.360
out of district kids with kids in the

2521
01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:30.400
district. Am I understanding that

2522
01:50:29.360 --> 01:50:32.000
correctly?

2523
01:50:30.400 --> 01:50:34.320
>> Yes, I'd say that's exactly correct.

2524
01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:36.480
>> All right. And so, how long does it I

2525
01:50:34.320 --> 01:50:37.679
know we have sibling preferences for the

2526
01:50:36.480 --> 01:50:40.400
kids that are already there, but how

2527
01:50:37.679 --> 01:50:42.880
long does it kind of take for if we you

2528
01:50:40.400 --> 01:50:44.719
know, if we switched the the switch on a

2529
01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:46.320
school and said, "Hey, we want to spend

2530
01:50:44.719 --> 01:50:48.000
more time. we're gonna have more kids

2531
01:50:46.320 --> 01:50:50.320
from within district trying to open

2532
01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:51.600
enroll into this. Um I know that it's

2533
01:50:50.320 --> 01:50:56.159
sort of a function of which grades

2534
01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:59.040
they're coming from, right? So, uh how

2535
01:50:56.159 --> 01:51:01.600
often how long does it take before like

2536
01:50:59.040 --> 01:51:02.960
a new equilibrium would be achieved in

2537
01:51:01.600 --> 01:51:04.880
which the indistrict people would be

2538
01:51:02.960 --> 01:51:06.080
able to choose what they want and still

2539
01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:08.080
have the space once we've sort of

2540
01:51:06.080 --> 01:51:10.639
flushed through out of district kids.

2541
01:51:08.080 --> 01:51:12.400
Like we're not filling things with out

2542
01:51:10.639 --> 01:51:15.600
of district kids at the expense of kids

2543
01:51:12.400 --> 01:51:17.280
within the district, right? Can I wonder

2544
01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:18.480
if we want to pause on that until we

2545
01:51:17.280 --> 01:51:20.480
talk about that because I think that's

2546
01:51:18.480 --> 01:51:22.000
going to generate and relate to some of

2547
01:51:20.480 --> 01:51:24.080
the questions that Deianne had on how

2548
01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:27.040
like the levers of open enrollment work

2549
01:51:24.080 --> 01:51:30.560
if that's okay and um if any board

2550
01:51:27.040 --> 01:51:32.480
members I have two I mean I get you guys

2551
01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:34.159
all get to ask your questions first

2552
01:51:32.480 --> 01:51:36.159
Helenia. So if I can ask two questions

2553
01:51:34.159 --> 01:51:37.440
and then we'll take a comfort break. Is

2554
01:51:36.159 --> 01:51:41.119
that okay Lena?

2555
01:51:37.440 --> 01:51:42.480
>> Thank you. Um,

2556
01:51:41.119 --> 01:51:44.000
in all the years you've been doing this

2557
01:51:42.480 --> 01:51:45.440
modeling, has res resident student

2558
01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:47.599
population always been the number that

2559
01:51:45.440 --> 01:51:52.920
you've used? Has it been the primary

2560
01:51:47.599 --> 01:51:52.920
driver in um, in your calculations?

2561
01:51:53.040 --> 01:51:56.400
>> Not since the beginning. It's something

2562
01:51:54.480 --> 01:51:57.760
that had to be developed over a number

2563
01:51:56.400 --> 01:51:59.679
of years because there aren't a lot of

2564
01:51:57.760 --> 01:52:01.760
other models out there that do it

2565
01:51:59.679 --> 01:52:04.639
exactly like that. Uh, but certainly for

2566
01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:07.199
the last 5 years or so, that's been um,

2567
01:52:04.639 --> 01:52:08.960
been the primary way of doing it. Um and

2568
01:52:07.199 --> 01:52:11.679
before and going back further for

2569
01:52:08.960 --> 01:52:12.960
schools with a lot of de development

2570
01:52:11.679 --> 01:52:14.159
potential. That was really where the

2571
01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:15.599
model kind of came from where you have

2572
01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:19.119
these schools with lots of development

2573
01:52:15.599 --> 01:52:21.199
potential. Um and the enrollment system

2574
01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:24.000
kind of breaks down. So that probably

2575
01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:26.080
goes back more like 10 years.

2576
01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:27.040
>> Thank you. Um and then I just wanted to

2577
01:52:26.080 --> 01:52:28.880
highlight what you said about

2578
01:52:27.040 --> 01:52:30.880
projections. really five years is where

2579
01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:32.159
we feel confident and I know we talked a

2580
01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:35.040
lot about that board members when we

2581
01:52:32.159 --> 01:52:36.400
were updating board policy JC on looking

2582
01:52:35.040 --> 01:52:39.040
at attendance boundaries and that was

2583
01:52:36.400 --> 01:52:43.119
really the rationale for why five years

2584
01:52:39.040 --> 01:52:44.719
was the decide what we decided in um and

2585
01:52:43.119 --> 01:52:48.159
re-evaluating those attendance policies

2586
01:52:44.719 --> 01:52:49.440
and so I I just want to elevate again

2587
01:52:48.159 --> 01:52:51.599
for a while we've been talking about

2588
01:52:49.440 --> 01:52:54.800
five-year confidences um that's not

2589
01:52:51.599 --> 01:52:57.199
entirely new and then last but not least

2590
01:52:54.800 --> 01:53:01.119
I just

2591
01:52:57.199 --> 01:53:03.520
wondered I kind of elevating back to the

2592
01:53:01.119 --> 01:53:06.960
data that Dr. Alzine presented on

2593
01:53:03.520 --> 01:53:10.320
parental and staff desires around

2594
01:53:06.960 --> 01:53:12.560
consolidation versus closure versus

2595
01:53:10.320 --> 01:53:14.320
reconfiguration

2596
01:53:12.560 --> 01:53:16.480
back in the June meeting. I I

2597
01:53:14.320 --> 01:53:20.000
acknowledge that the primary the biggest

2598
01:53:16.480 --> 01:53:22.000
preference was consolidation and that

2599
01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:24.719
because our obligation to ensure that

2600
01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:27.040
every student with

2601
01:53:24.719 --> 01:53:29.599
with a resident student has to have the

2602
01:53:27.040 --> 01:53:31.520
ability to have a seat, it may not be

2603
01:53:29.599 --> 01:53:33.840
possible in all solutions. And so can

2604
01:53:31.520 --> 01:53:35.199
you in all state situations? And so I

2605
01:53:33.840 --> 01:53:37.199
just wonder if you can talk a little bit

2606
01:53:35.199 --> 01:53:39.760
about the pressures of us and our

2607
01:53:37.199 --> 01:53:41.119
responsibility to provide resident

2608
01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:42.960
students access to their neighborhood

2609
01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:44.960
school should they choose it and the way

2610
01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:47.040
in which that may have impacted

2611
01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:49.119
decisions around which schools could be

2612
01:53:47.040 --> 01:53:52.960
easily consolidated versus which ones

2613
01:53:49.119 --> 01:53:55.840
had to be um you know divided amongst a

2614
01:53:52.960 --> 01:53:57.360
couple different schools.

2615
01:53:55.840 --> 01:53:59.040
>> Well really starting with the resident

2616
01:53:57.360 --> 01:54:01.199
population is the key to that. So we

2617
01:53:59.040 --> 01:54:03.760
want to look can the school accommodate

2618
01:54:01.199 --> 01:54:06.080
the resident population you know with

2619
01:54:03.760 --> 01:54:08.960
the new combination. Um so we looked at

2620
01:54:06.080 --> 01:54:10.800
that closely and and I I pointed out one

2621
01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:12.400
slide earlier too that it you know the

2622
01:54:10.800 --> 01:54:14.880
resident population can be a little bit

2623
01:54:12.400 --> 01:54:16.800
bigger than the capacity um because of

2624
01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:17.760
that because of open enrollment. Not all

2625
01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:19.760
kids will go there.

2626
01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:22.719
>> You go to the next slide real quick and

2627
01:54:19.760 --> 01:54:23.920
continue your thoughts. Oh, if it has to

2628
01:54:22.719 --> 01:54:25.199
do with your next slide, you can hold it

2629
01:54:23.920 --> 01:54:26.560
because I do know my board members want

2630
01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:27.840
a come for a break. The

2631
01:54:26.560 --> 01:54:29.119
>> next slide though.

2632
01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:31.280
>> Okay. Okay.

2633
01:54:29.119 --> 01:54:33.040
>> Thanks. We will take a fivem minute

2634
01:54:31.280 --> 01:54:35.280
comfort break and we'll resume on

2635
01:54:33.040 --> 01:54:38.280
discussing levers for of open

2636
01:54:35.280 --> 01:54:38.280
enrollment.

2637
02:01:16.239 --> 02:01:22.320
like to call this meeting back to order

2638
02:01:19.520 --> 02:01:24.159
and turn it back over to staff to

2639
02:01:22.320 --> 02:01:27.800
discuss

2640
02:01:24.159 --> 02:01:27.800
enrollment utilization.

2641
02:01:33.040 --> 02:01:37.520
So here we can see uh Bear Creek and

2642
02:01:34.960 --> 02:01:38.960
Mesa combination as an example of uh

2643
02:01:37.520 --> 02:01:40.560
what it looks like when we combine two

2644
02:01:38.960 --> 02:01:43.119
schools and how we project that

2645
02:01:40.560 --> 02:01:46.480
situation. Uh we can see on the left

2646
02:01:43.119 --> 02:01:48.800
side we have Bear Creek. Uh it's 25 26

2647
02:01:46.480 --> 02:01:51.920
enroll resident students and enrollment

2648
02:01:48.800 --> 02:01:54.320
utilization. Uh and the same for Mesa.

2649
02:01:51.920 --> 02:01:58.159
Uh on the on the right side we see the

2650
02:01:54.320 --> 02:01:59.920
projected consolidated schools for 27 28

2651
02:01:58.159 --> 02:02:01.520
which would be the first year that

2652
02:01:59.920 --> 02:02:03.679
school would would function as a

2653
02:02:01.520 --> 02:02:08.320
consolidated school. Uh and also a

2654
02:02:03.679 --> 02:02:10.159
further projection in 2030 and 31. Um

2655
02:02:08.320 --> 02:02:12.960
going down the list we have uh the

2656
02:02:10.159 --> 02:02:15.520
resident students in 27 in the combined

2657
02:02:12.960 --> 02:02:18.480
school. Uh now that number are the

2658
02:02:15.520 --> 02:02:20.560
number of students that live in the the

2659
02:02:18.480 --> 02:02:22.639
really kind of three um enrollment

2660
02:02:20.560 --> 02:02:24.320
areas, right? You've got Bear Creek

2661
02:02:22.639 --> 02:02:25.599
enrollment area, you've got Mesa's

2662
02:02:24.320 --> 02:02:28.560
enrollment area, but you've got the dual

2663
02:02:25.599 --> 02:02:31.360
area too, which almost functions as a

2664
02:02:28.560 --> 02:02:34.400
third enrollment uh area in that in that

2665
02:02:31.360 --> 02:02:36.320
uh part of the of the city. Um and then

2666
02:02:34.400 --> 02:02:38.400
going further into the future, that

2667
02:02:36.320 --> 02:02:42.560
number does go up to 522, which is more

2668
02:02:38.400 --> 02:02:45.599
than the capacity of 492. However, um

2669
02:02:42.560 --> 02:02:48.239
you know, again, even using 85% which is

2670
02:02:45.599 --> 02:02:49.520
the highest end of that we see of

2671
02:02:48.239 --> 02:02:51.679
resident students attending their

2672
02:02:49.520 --> 02:02:54.320
neighborhood school, that still puts the

2673
02:02:51.679 --> 02:02:55.920
population at 455. Now, that's without

2674
02:02:54.320 --> 02:02:57.360
open enrollment or anything like that,

2675
02:02:55.920 --> 02:02:59.440
though. And that gets to be the tricky

2676
02:02:57.360 --> 02:03:03.040
part. Uh in the enrollment part in the

2677
02:02:59.440 --> 02:03:05.679
bottom, we have uh we did a range um

2678
02:03:03.040 --> 02:03:07.599
based on how many students from Mesa,

2679
02:03:05.679 --> 02:03:10.880
resident students from Mesa will carry

2680
02:03:07.599 --> 02:03:14.159
over. Uh and then that part also does

2681
02:03:10.880 --> 02:03:15.840
not include the portion of Mesa uh

2682
02:03:14.159 --> 02:03:19.679
students that are open enrolled into

2683
02:03:15.840 --> 02:03:23.280
Mesa. Um and it also includes part of

2684
02:03:19.679 --> 02:03:25.199
students that uh in Bear Creek. uh we

2685
02:03:23.280 --> 02:03:27.920
would probably manage enrollment that

2686
02:03:25.199 --> 02:03:31.040
first year for all new uh uh open

2687
02:03:27.920 --> 02:03:32.400
enrolled kids in the Mesa rather than um

2688
02:03:31.040 --> 02:03:34.239
you know we wouldn't touch the kids that

2689
02:03:32.400 --> 02:03:35.679
are already in the building but for the

2690
02:03:34.239 --> 02:03:37.760
new open enrollment would probably have

2691
02:03:35.679 --> 02:03:41.480
to be managed uh in order to make sure

2692
02:03:37.760 --> 02:03:41.480
we get everybody in.

2693
02:03:41.920 --> 02:03:46.719
Yeah, I think uh board members this is

2694
02:03:43.599 --> 02:03:50.560
an important point. Um and Glenn, if you

2695
02:03:46.719 --> 02:03:53.119
can speak to uh you know when we look at

2696
02:03:50.560 --> 02:03:54.960
resident students, right, we have uh

2697
02:03:53.119 --> 02:03:58.159
decades of enrollment trend data that

2698
02:03:54.960 --> 02:04:00.080
tell us what percentage of any resident

2699
02:03:58.159 --> 02:04:03.280
group of students attends their

2700
02:04:00.080 --> 02:04:05.119
neighborhood school. And uh that is that

2701
02:04:03.280 --> 02:04:07.440
is some of the data that Glenn leaned

2702
02:04:05.119 --> 02:04:08.960
on. Um you know, because you could look

2703
02:04:07.440 --> 02:04:10.320
at this and say, gosh, you've got more

2704
02:04:08.960 --> 02:04:11.840
resident students than you have

2705
02:04:10.320 --> 02:04:13.199
capacity.

2706
02:04:11.840 --> 02:04:14.880
Right. And I think that some of our

2707
02:04:13.199 --> 02:04:16.480
folks in our community, you know, gave

2708
02:04:14.880 --> 02:04:18.159
us some pretty straightforward feedback

2709
02:04:16.480 --> 02:04:20.239
at our last meeting. Wait a minute, you

2710
02:04:18.159 --> 02:04:25.440
have 522 resident students and you have

2711
02:04:20.239 --> 02:04:27.840
capacity of 492. Uh again, um not every

2712
02:04:25.440 --> 02:04:29.199
resident student goes to their

2713
02:04:27.840 --> 02:04:30.719
neighborhood school. As a matter of

2714
02:04:29.199 --> 02:04:32.560
fact, as we've shared, you know, it's

2715
02:04:30.719 --> 02:04:34.880
between somewhere between 60 and 70

2716
02:04:32.560 --> 02:04:37.280
depend depending 70% depending on the

2717
02:04:34.880 --> 02:04:38.960
availability that you have. So, three

2718
02:04:37.280 --> 02:04:42.960
out of every 10 schools that are a

2719
02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:44.560
resident student um don't go to their uh

2720
02:04:42.960 --> 02:04:47.199
their neighborhood schools. And as we

2721
02:04:44.560 --> 02:04:49.360
shared a few slides previously where we

2722
02:04:47.199 --> 02:04:50.480
could talk to you specifically, maybe go

2723
02:04:49.360 --> 02:04:53.599
back to that, Glenn, to just kind of

2724
02:04:50.480 --> 02:04:56.159
highlight this point. Um now, just kind

2725
02:04:53.599 --> 02:04:59.199
of the all of the the folks on the green

2726
02:04:56.159 --> 02:05:03.440
bars do not attend their resident

2727
02:04:59.199 --> 02:05:06.159
school. And so uh you know you can see

2728
02:05:03.440 --> 02:05:07.599
uh those are significant amounts um and

2729
02:05:06.159 --> 02:05:11.040
significant amounts in our smallest

2730
02:05:07.599 --> 02:05:15.440
schools. Uh um so I think that when

2731
02:05:11.040 --> 02:05:17.520
folks are trying to um fully understand

2732
02:05:15.440 --> 02:05:19.119
the methodology that we use there just

2733
02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:22.239
be there's some pieces of information

2734
02:05:19.119 --> 02:05:24.960
that are missing uh that we use to and

2735
02:05:22.239 --> 02:05:28.000
this is how Glenn gets really accurate

2736
02:05:24.960 --> 02:05:29.440
with his projections within 1% 19 out of

2737
02:05:28.000 --> 02:05:32.480
20 years or something like that is when

2738
02:05:29.440 --> 02:05:33.920
we were thinking about it. Um so uh I

2739
02:05:32.480 --> 02:05:36.400
just wanted to highlight that point. You

2740
02:05:33.920 --> 02:05:38.400
can go back Glenn to to where we're we

2741
02:05:36.400 --> 02:05:40.639
where we're at. Um and then the other

2742
02:05:38.400 --> 02:05:42.080
this other idea around open enrollment

2743
02:05:40.639 --> 02:05:43.840
as a lever I think we're going to get

2744
02:05:42.080 --> 02:05:46.480
into here a little bit but again

2745
02:05:43.840 --> 02:05:49.679
remember board members resident students

2746
02:05:46.480 --> 02:05:52.639
and then open enrollment right so in in

2747
02:05:49.679 --> 02:05:55.360
future years in a consolidated Bear

2748
02:05:52.639 --> 02:05:58.000
Creek and Mesa right we're not going to

2749
02:05:55.360 --> 02:06:00.880
have the open enrollment ability that we

2750
02:05:58.000 --> 02:06:03.440
have today

2751
02:06:00.880 --> 02:06:05.520
right as school just like we don't have

2752
02:06:03.440 --> 02:06:07.280
the open enrollment ability at other

2753
02:06:05.520 --> 02:06:09.280
schools that are filled

2754
02:06:07.280 --> 02:06:12.159
Right. The open enrollment process

2755
02:06:09.280 --> 02:06:15.280
accounts for that and it ensures that we

2756
02:06:12.159 --> 02:06:18.639
don't open enroll in ways that overcrowd

2757
02:06:15.280 --> 02:06:20.239
schools or overcrowd classrooms. And I

2758
02:06:18.639 --> 02:06:22.159
think that those were really big

2759
02:06:20.239 --> 02:06:24.639
concerns because if you start looking at

2760
02:06:22.159 --> 02:06:26.320
more students than you have capacity,

2761
02:06:24.639 --> 02:06:28.000
then the only way that if you didn't

2762
02:06:26.320 --> 02:06:29.520
have these other data points, these

2763
02:06:28.000 --> 02:06:31.599
other methodologies that we're speaking

2764
02:06:29.520 --> 02:06:34.079
to, you you'd have to put them in really

2765
02:06:31.599 --> 02:06:35.679
big classes. And we're going to get to

2766
02:06:34.079 --> 02:06:38.159
this board members, but again, our

2767
02:06:35.679 --> 02:06:39.840
community spoke loud and clear, right?

2768
02:06:38.159 --> 02:06:41.360
They don't want really large class

2769
02:06:39.840 --> 02:06:44.960
sizes,

2770
02:06:41.360 --> 02:06:46.960
right? Very very evident. And so to the

2771
02:06:44.960 --> 02:06:50.320
extent that we are going to begin to be

2772
02:06:46.960 --> 02:06:55.199
able to drop those class sizes is is a

2773
02:06:50.320 --> 02:06:57.040
big um I think um anchor of the plan and

2774
02:06:55.199 --> 02:06:58.960
the proposal that that that we've shared

2775
02:06:57.040 --> 02:07:00.800
with you all. So Rob, I didn't know if

2776
02:06:58.960 --> 02:07:02.880
you wanted to add anything else there.

2777
02:07:00.800 --> 02:07:04.320
Um or if Glenn if you wanted anything

2778
02:07:02.880 --> 02:07:06.719
else. I just think that I just wanted to

2779
02:07:04.320 --> 02:07:08.159
to pause and highlight I think a valid

2780
02:07:06.719 --> 02:07:09.840
question for folks who wouldn't have

2781
02:07:08.159 --> 02:07:13.280
understood what what Glenn shared with

2782
02:07:09.840 --> 02:07:15.360
you all in terms of uh you know you

2783
02:07:13.280 --> 02:07:16.880
you're know it looks like you're going

2784
02:07:15.360 --> 02:07:20.920
to overcrowd the schools to make this

2785
02:07:16.880 --> 02:07:20.920
plan work. That's not the case.

2786
02:07:23.920 --> 02:07:28.000
>> Do you have a question on this slide? I

2787
02:07:26.560 --> 02:07:30.719
I do just while we're on the topic of

2788
02:07:28.000 --> 02:07:33.119
Bear Creek Mesa if if that's soon we can

2789
02:07:30.719 --> 02:07:34.400
I can wait

2790
02:07:33.119 --> 02:07:35.760
I mean if we if we have a few more

2791
02:07:34.400 --> 02:07:37.840
slides to cover but I think this there's

2792
02:07:35.760 --> 02:07:39.360
a few questions that I'd like to ask

2793
02:07:37.840 --> 02:07:42.400
around this specific thing.

2794
02:07:39.360 --> 02:07:44.960
>> So there are three slides on this levers

2795
02:07:42.400 --> 02:07:47.040
that relate to class size and consult

2796
02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:48.639
and

2797
02:07:47.040 --> 02:07:50.560
so it's your your call.

2798
02:07:48.639 --> 02:07:52.960
>> Okay. Thanks. I'm I'm gonna take the

2799
02:07:50.560 --> 02:07:54.560
opportunity to ask that question. Uh

2800
02:07:52.960 --> 02:07:56.719
we've I've we've all heard from a lot of

2801
02:07:54.560 --> 02:07:58.880
folks uh particularly parents and

2802
02:07:56.719 --> 02:08:01.199
families at Mesa concerned about exactly

2803
02:07:58.880 --> 02:08:02.560
what Dr. Anderson talked about. Can you

2804
02:08:01.199 --> 02:08:03.920
you know I think this is relevant here

2805
02:08:02.560 --> 02:08:06.079
but can you talk about you know where

2806
02:08:03.920 --> 02:08:07.119
the rise kids fits it fit into this if

2807
02:08:06.079 --> 02:08:08.639
that's part of the numbers you're

2808
02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:10.719
talking about and then I think Glenn you

2809
02:08:08.639 --> 02:08:12.960
mentioned kids that are currently open

2810
02:08:10.719 --> 02:08:14.719
enrolled to Mesa now like what does this

2811
02:08:12.960 --> 02:08:19.280
mean for them next year and is that

2812
02:08:14.719 --> 02:08:21.520
factored into this calculation here?

2813
02:08:19.280 --> 02:08:24.000
So the RISE students are included and we

2814
02:08:21.520 --> 02:08:26.079
brought brought that program over uh so

2815
02:08:24.000 --> 02:08:28.639
that is included uh in in the

2816
02:08:26.079 --> 02:08:31.840
projection. Um and as far as the Mesa

2817
02:08:28.639 --> 02:08:36.880
students, we the the Mesa uh students

2818
02:08:31.840 --> 02:08:38.719
that are currently attending um um Mesa

2819
02:08:36.880 --> 02:08:40.719
it assumes all of those students coming

2820
02:08:38.719 --> 02:08:42.320
over. Uh and the high there's a range in

2821
02:08:40.719 --> 02:08:44.320
that one. So that's the high range that

2822
02:08:42.320 --> 02:08:46.800
all of those kids come over. Uh the low

2823
02:08:44.320 --> 02:08:48.719
range is just a lower percentage of

2824
02:08:46.800 --> 02:08:51.679
those come over. And then the students

2825
02:08:48.719 --> 02:08:53.760
that are open enrolled uh into Mesa

2826
02:08:51.679 --> 02:08:55.280
currently that is going to be dealt with

2827
02:08:53.760 --> 02:08:58.800
through the open enrollment process and

2828
02:08:55.280 --> 02:09:01.360
the preferences that we established. Um

2829
02:08:58.800 --> 02:09:02.719
and then I guess related if I can uh you

2830
02:09:01.360 --> 02:09:04.079
know Rob you know all these facilities

2831
02:09:02.719 --> 02:09:05.520
really well. I think a lot of people

2832
02:09:04.079 --> 02:09:08.400
have raised concerns you know you have a

2833
02:09:05.520 --> 02:09:10.719
school even if it's middle of that range

2834
02:09:08.400 --> 02:09:13.119
you know I I actually I don't know the

2835
02:09:10.719 --> 02:09:16.239
the layout exactly at Bear Creek but I a

2836
02:09:13.119 --> 02:09:18.079
lot of open open concept classrooms. Are

2837
02:09:16.239 --> 02:09:19.840
you could you talk about you know the

2838
02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:22.079
ability of that building to be able to

2839
02:09:19.840 --> 02:09:24.880
absorb at the high range high end of

2840
02:09:22.079 --> 02:09:27.119
this range the kids the new programmatic

2841
02:09:24.880 --> 02:09:28.880
things that are moving over and just

2842
02:09:27.119 --> 02:09:31.119
addressing concerns that Dr. Anderson

2843
02:09:28.880 --> 02:09:33.360
did about you know overcrowded room

2844
02:09:31.119 --> 02:09:35.679
classrooms. I think just there's a lot

2845
02:09:33.360 --> 02:09:38.159
of concern uh I think understandably so

2846
02:09:35.679 --> 02:09:40.400
about um even if these were on the lower

2847
02:09:38.159 --> 02:09:43.440
end the ability of this building to be

2848
02:09:40.400 --> 02:09:47.360
able to successfully kind of incorporate

2849
02:09:43.440 --> 02:09:48.639
that many kids. Yeah, we've uh spent a

2850
02:09:47.360 --> 02:09:50.639
lot of time this summer walking

2851
02:09:48.639 --> 02:09:54.320
buildings, looking at buildings, know

2852
02:09:50.639 --> 02:09:56.480
this building really well. The um as a

2853
02:09:54.320 --> 02:09:58.560
reminder, it wasn't long ago when these

2854
02:09:56.480 --> 02:10:01.840
buildings were at this size. I mean, I

2855
02:09:58.560 --> 02:10:04.480
think we can look back to 2016 2017

2856
02:10:01.840 --> 02:10:08.719
numbers and a lot of these schools were

2857
02:10:04.480 --> 02:10:10.880
over 400 students. Um the what I do want

2858
02:10:08.719 --> 02:10:13.599
to recognize though, as schools have

2859
02:10:10.880 --> 02:10:15.119
gotten smaller, they've expanded into

2860
02:10:13.599 --> 02:10:17.280
different spaces, right? right? They've

2861
02:10:15.119 --> 02:10:21.040
used it as a swing space, a reading

2862
02:10:17.280 --> 02:10:23.440
room, um additional staff lounges, etc.

2863
02:10:21.040 --> 02:10:24.960
And that's change management and that's

2864
02:10:23.440 --> 02:10:26.960
going to take some time and we'll have

2865
02:10:24.960 --> 02:10:29.920
to work with the building leaders, work

2866
02:10:26.960 --> 02:10:31.920
with staffs, etc. because a lot of that

2867
02:10:29.920 --> 02:10:33.520
space that they've expanded to will now

2868
02:10:31.920 --> 02:10:35.119
have to be classroom space. It was

2869
02:10:33.520 --> 02:10:37.920
intended to be classroom space when the

2870
02:10:35.119 --> 02:10:41.360
building was first built. Uh so when we

2871
02:10:37.920 --> 02:10:44.719
look at capacity we look at it of uh

2872
02:10:41.360 --> 02:10:47.280
classrooms that are what bigger than 600

2873
02:10:44.719 --> 02:10:50.320
600 square f feet. We have a multiplier

2874
02:10:47.280 --> 02:10:53.119
of 25 students. So in the case of Bear

2875
02:10:50.320 --> 02:10:56.400
Creek we have 20 classrooms out there.

2876
02:10:53.119 --> 02:10:59.040
Um we have uh multiply that times 25 and

2877
02:10:56.400 --> 02:11:02.719
that's how you get to 492

2878
02:10:59.040 --> 02:11:05.520
um as a capacity. So little over a three

2879
02:11:02.719 --> 02:11:08.079
round school out there. Um again, you

2880
02:11:05.520 --> 02:11:10.079
know, the learning environment, uh do

2881
02:11:08.079 --> 02:11:11.760
have some spaces that are that open

2882
02:11:10.079 --> 02:11:14.719
concept similar to Heatherwood,

2883
02:11:11.760 --> 02:11:17.280
Eisenhower, uh Mesa has some of that

2884
02:11:14.719 --> 02:11:19.040
right now. Um and again, we'll be

2885
02:11:17.280 --> 02:11:21.040
working with staffs to figure out how we

2886
02:11:19.040 --> 02:11:22.639
can mitigate a lot of that. But, uh I

2887
02:11:21.040 --> 02:11:24.880
just want to remind us it wasn't long

2888
02:11:22.639 --> 02:11:28.239
ago when these schools were this full.

2889
02:11:24.880 --> 02:11:31.040
Um and they were, uh very successful at

2890
02:11:28.239 --> 02:11:34.719
that time. Okay, couple things for folks

2891
02:11:31.040 --> 02:11:37.280
who are watching at home. Uh 25 time 20

2892
02:11:34.719 --> 02:11:38.320
doesn't equal 492.

2893
02:11:37.280 --> 02:11:41.119
>> I'm sorry. You're right.

2894
02:11:38.320 --> 02:11:41.440
>> Our class size is 24

2895
02:11:41.119 --> 02:11:43.520
>> 20.

2896
02:11:41.440 --> 02:11:46.480
>> Yes. 24.58

2897
02:11:43.520 --> 02:11:48.239
is our multip. So So you're right.

2898
02:11:46.480 --> 02:11:50.480
>> So sorry about that, Rob, but I just

2899
02:11:48.239 --> 02:11:52.239
want to be very accurate with folks. Um

2900
02:11:50.480 --> 02:11:53.679
and you know, I appreciate the level of

2901
02:11:52.239 --> 02:11:55.920
precision that our our community is

2902
02:11:53.679 --> 02:11:58.400
seeking. Um

2903
02:11:55.920 --> 02:11:59.599
>> I will say that board members, as we

2904
02:11:58.400 --> 02:12:01.840
think about this and we think about

2905
02:11:59.599 --> 02:12:04.800
class sizes, right? So, our capacity,

2906
02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:08.400
we're building on a ca a capacity of a

2907
02:12:04.800 --> 02:12:12.639
of an average K12 general ed class size

2908
02:12:08.400 --> 02:12:14.239
of 24.58 to1. Right now, you may be

2909
02:12:12.639 --> 02:12:18.000
asking, you know, why don't we have

2910
02:12:14.239 --> 02:12:22.800
class sizes of 24.58 to1? Part of this

2911
02:12:18.000 --> 02:12:25.119
consolidation effort shrinks the range

2912
02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:26.400
of class sizes that we see. And we're

2913
02:12:25.119 --> 02:12:27.840
going to get into this a little bit, but

2914
02:12:26.400 --> 02:12:30.800
I think it's worth taking a moment to

2915
02:12:27.840 --> 02:12:33.199
speak to here. Um because if you have an

2916
02:12:30.800 --> 02:12:34.960
average of 25 board members, if you have

2917
02:12:33.199 --> 02:12:36.320
a class of 17, what does that mean? You

2918
02:12:34.960 --> 02:12:38.719
need to have on the other end to average

2919
02:12:36.320 --> 02:12:41.760
to 25,

2920
02:12:38.719 --> 02:12:43.360
right? Like so if so by consolidating so

2921
02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:45.199
our community understands how we're

2922
02:12:43.360 --> 02:12:48.000
going to use this to shrink class size,

2923
02:12:45.199 --> 02:12:50.719
you shrink the range by having more

2924
02:12:48.000 --> 02:12:54.560
rounds per school, right? Because if you

2925
02:12:50.719 --> 02:12:56.800
get 34 kids in a grade at a two round or

2926
02:12:54.560 --> 02:13:00.000
at a one round school, then you have two

2927
02:12:56.800 --> 02:13:02.000
classes of 17, right? But if you get a

2928
02:13:00.000 --> 02:13:04.560
couple kids and you have three classes

2929
02:13:02.000 --> 02:13:07.040
of 25 26, you don't get to the place

2930
02:13:04.560 --> 02:13:09.760
where you're adding a teacher um and

2931
02:13:07.040 --> 02:13:11.599
you're expanding your range on the low

2932
02:13:09.760 --> 02:13:13.520
end and then on the high end to get to

2933
02:13:11.599 --> 02:13:14.880
that average, right? And then the

2934
02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:16.560
efficiencies, and we're going to talk a

2935
02:13:14.880 --> 02:13:19.199
little bit about this when Bill speaks,

2936
02:13:16.560 --> 02:13:22.639
creates new resources that we can then

2937
02:13:19.199 --> 02:13:25.920
redeploy into schools to even bring that

2938
02:13:22.639 --> 02:13:29.040
average down lower and shrink that range

2939
02:13:25.920 --> 02:13:31.840
so there's a more consistent class size

2940
02:13:29.040 --> 02:13:34.079
K through five. So, um, I just wanted,

2941
02:13:31.840 --> 02:13:36.000
sorry, Rob, to I'm going to keep an eye

2942
02:13:34.079 --> 02:13:38.320
on the math to make sure that that that

2943
02:13:36.000 --> 02:13:39.760
folks, um, you know, understand, you

2944
02:13:38.320 --> 02:13:41.679
know, that we're talking and how it adds

2945
02:13:39.760 --> 02:13:44.159
up, but I'm also really trying to

2946
02:13:41.679 --> 02:13:47.480
describe more in detail how all this

2947
02:13:44.159 --> 02:13:47.480
works together.

2948
02:13:49.760 --> 02:13:54.400
All right. So, um, thank you very much.

2949
02:13:52.960 --> 02:13:55.920
I'm going to be continuing to talk about

2950
02:13:54.400 --> 02:13:58.159
those two levers. a lot of the

2951
02:13:55.920 --> 02:14:00.320
discussion has already kind of taken

2952
02:13:58.159 --> 02:14:02.480
some of the points that I had to make

2953
02:14:00.320 --> 02:14:04.719
and it's been wonderful in that space.

2954
02:14:02.480 --> 02:14:06.719
So either I'll be adding some new

2955
02:14:04.719 --> 02:14:08.400
information, I'll be layering some

2956
02:14:06.719 --> 02:14:11.119
consistent information about what was

2957
02:14:08.400 --> 02:14:14.639
said and I hope what uh the next couple

2958
02:14:11.119 --> 02:14:16.480
slides lay out for you is um a little

2959
02:14:14.639 --> 02:14:19.440
more clarity around those two levers

2960
02:14:16.480 --> 02:14:21.679
that Mr. Price and Mr. Shagru and Dr.

2961
02:14:19.440 --> 02:14:25.599
Anderson talked about. So those two

2962
02:14:21.679 --> 02:14:27.520
levers levers are managing school choice

2963
02:14:25.599 --> 02:14:29.520
enrollment process and I'll use the

2964
02:14:27.520 --> 02:14:30.560
terminology choice enrollment versus

2965
02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:31.920
open enrollment. They are

2966
02:14:30.560 --> 02:14:34.480
interchangeable. They mean the same

2967
02:14:31.920 --> 02:14:36.400
thing but um and then the other one

2968
02:14:34.480 --> 02:14:39.520
being maximizing designated classroom

2969
02:14:36.400 --> 02:14:41.199
usage which Mr. Price just spoke about.

2970
02:14:39.520 --> 02:14:45.199
>> Can you advance this? Perfect.

2971
02:14:41.199 --> 02:14:46.960
>> Yeah. So um the first one levers to

2972
02:14:45.199 --> 02:14:50.079
manage enrollment specifically through

2973
02:14:46.960 --> 02:14:52.719
choice enrollment. Um the ability for us

2974
02:14:50.079 --> 02:14:54.480
to clearly identify overall student

2975
02:14:52.719 --> 02:14:56.800
enrollment availability by school and by

2976
02:14:54.480 --> 02:14:58.480
grade level during the choice enrollment

2977
02:14:56.800 --> 02:15:00.639
window is going to be very important.

2978
02:14:58.480 --> 02:15:02.480
We've already emphasized that we will

2979
02:15:00.639 --> 02:15:04.079
maintain our choice enrollment process.

2980
02:15:02.480 --> 02:15:05.840
That's important. It's a value within

2981
02:15:04.079 --> 02:15:07.840
the state of Colorado and BBSD to have

2982
02:15:05.840 --> 02:15:09.679
choice enrollment. But our first

2983
02:15:07.840 --> 02:15:11.760
priority will be our currently enrolled

2984
02:15:09.679 --> 02:15:14.159
and resident students. We just spoke

2985
02:15:11.760 --> 02:15:15.599
about that. Followed by students and

2986
02:15:14.159 --> 02:15:17.280
families that have elected to choice

2987
02:15:15.599 --> 02:15:19.040
enroll.

2988
02:15:17.280 --> 02:15:20.960
Choice enrollment is exactly that. It's

2989
02:15:19.040 --> 02:15:22.480
a family choice. Each year, families

2990
02:15:20.960 --> 02:15:24.320
choose to attend a school other than

2991
02:15:22.480 --> 02:15:27.199
their neighborhood school. That's across

2992
02:15:24.320 --> 02:15:30.320
our system, K12. For example, current

2993
02:15:27.199 --> 02:15:33.280
Mesa families may choose to uh choose a

2994
02:15:30.320 --> 02:15:35.840
school other than Bear Creek.

2995
02:15:33.280 --> 02:15:38.000
This is a normal process of choice

2996
02:15:35.840 --> 02:15:39.199
enrollment. Likewise, each year families

2997
02:15:38.000 --> 02:15:40.719
choose to leave their neighborhood

2998
02:15:39.199 --> 02:15:42.320
school to attend a different school. And

2999
02:15:40.719 --> 02:15:44.960
that's kind of some of the details Mr.

3000
02:15:42.320 --> 02:15:48.400
Shaggru spoke about. If there is room at

3001
02:15:44.960 --> 02:15:50.800
a school after the um currently enrolled

3002
02:15:48.400 --> 02:15:54.320
and resident students, we will be

3003
02:15:50.800 --> 02:15:55.520
offering seats to a to a degree. Our

3004
02:15:54.320 --> 02:15:58.159
commitment is that we are not going to

3005
02:15:55.520 --> 02:16:00.560
be overfilling our classrooms as Dr.

3006
02:15:58.159 --> 02:16:03.360
Anderson just spoke about, nor our

3007
02:16:00.560 --> 02:16:05.199
schools when it comes to the defined of

3008
02:16:03.360 --> 02:16:08.000
capacity based on the available

3009
02:16:05.199 --> 02:16:09.520
classroom spaces. During the process,

3010
02:16:08.000 --> 02:16:11.440
it's important to note a couple things.

3011
02:16:09.520 --> 02:16:13.040
First, choice enrollment in Colorado

3012
02:16:11.440 --> 02:16:14.560
does not guarantee enrollment in a

3013
02:16:13.040 --> 02:16:17.599
school. However, we also understand

3014
02:16:14.560 --> 02:16:19.760
choice enrollment is a value of BBSD. As

3015
02:16:17.599 --> 02:16:21.599
previously mentioned, currently 63% of

3016
02:16:19.760 --> 02:16:23.599
our students attend their identified

3017
02:16:21.599 --> 02:16:27.119
schools. Sometimes that ranges to be

3018
02:16:23.599 --> 02:16:29.599
more. Um, and our plan underscores this

3019
02:16:27.119 --> 02:16:31.840
resident student population. To ensure

3020
02:16:29.599 --> 02:16:34.639
our efficiencies as we move forward

3021
02:16:31.840 --> 02:16:36.319
towards the 2728 school year, our

3022
02:16:34.639 --> 02:16:38.240
proposal reflects a change in how we

3023
02:16:36.319 --> 02:16:41.040
identify the number of choice enrollment

3024
02:16:38.240 --> 02:16:44.080
space available at each school and also

3025
02:16:41.040 --> 02:16:46.880
changes the window of choice enrollment

3026
02:16:44.080 --> 02:16:49.040
to November 1st to December 18th. That's

3027
02:16:46.880 --> 02:16:51.200
going to help us be better defined and

3028
02:16:49.040 --> 02:16:53.840
be more purposeful with ensuring our

3029
02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:55.359
numbers are accurate. And therefore by

3030
02:16:53.840 --> 02:16:57.359
rethinking how we identify our class

3031
02:16:55.359 --> 02:16:59.200
sizes and space available, we'll better

3032
02:16:57.359 --> 02:17:02.240
be better able to create more

3033
02:16:59.200 --> 02:17:04.240
predictable access to instruction and

3034
02:17:02.240 --> 02:17:05.599
the in learning environments that we

3035
02:17:04.240 --> 02:17:07.519
want for each and every single student

3036
02:17:05.599 --> 02:17:10.399
in BBSD.

3037
02:17:07.519 --> 02:17:12.000
So let's talk about how this happens.

3038
02:17:10.399 --> 02:17:14.639
The other second lever and this is what

3039
02:17:12.000 --> 02:17:16.880
Mr. Price was talking about. So this is

3040
02:17:14.639 --> 02:17:18.639
kind of like what we would say a school

3041
02:17:16.880 --> 02:17:21.120
was originally designed for. Each one of

3042
02:17:18.639 --> 02:17:23.280
those boxes just to orient ourselves is

3043
02:17:21.120 --> 02:17:24.880
a classroom. the little people in the

3044
02:17:23.280 --> 02:17:26.880
classroom is not accurate, right? So

3045
02:17:24.880 --> 02:17:29.200
there's we have more than 12 students in

3046
02:17:26.880 --> 02:17:31.599
the class, but just to orient ourselves

3047
02:17:29.200 --> 02:17:34.160
to that. So it's important to talk about

3048
02:17:31.599 --> 02:17:36.000
how class size is determined. Um first,

3049
02:17:34.160 --> 02:17:38.000
it's determined by our identified

3050
02:17:36.000 --> 02:17:39.760
recommended class size guidelines, which

3051
02:17:38.000 --> 02:17:41.280
is found within our negotiated

3052
02:17:39.760 --> 02:17:43.519
agreement.

3053
02:17:41.280 --> 02:17:46.719
However, our elementary school class

3054
02:17:43.519 --> 02:17:50.080
sizes range from the mid- teens to 30,

3055
02:17:46.719 --> 02:17:52.080
31, and 32. Therefore, what is often

3056
02:17:50.080 --> 02:17:53.359
thought of as capacity is based on feel

3057
02:17:52.080 --> 02:17:54.719
found in the classroom instead of the

3058
02:17:53.359 --> 02:17:57.439
number of students. And we face this

3059
02:17:54.719 --> 02:17:59.040
every single year. As our student as our

3060
02:17:57.439 --> 02:18:00.160
schools have gotten smaller, our schools

3061
02:17:59.040 --> 02:18:01.920
have thoughtfully and honestly

3062
02:18:00.160 --> 02:18:04.000
transformed previously identified

3063
02:18:01.920 --> 02:18:07.760
classroom spaces into non-classroom

3064
02:18:04.000 --> 02:18:09.439
spaces. For example, across BBSD,

3065
02:18:07.760 --> 02:18:11.840
schools have transformed previously

3066
02:18:09.439 --> 02:18:14.880
identified classrooms

3067
02:18:11.840 --> 02:18:16.960
into other spaces such as I've seen

3068
02:18:14.880 --> 02:18:19.359
staff lounges, reading areas, maker

3069
02:18:16.960 --> 02:18:22.000
spaces, open collaboration spaces,

3070
02:18:19.359 --> 02:18:24.559
student dens, conference rooms, parent

3071
02:18:22.000 --> 02:18:26.559
volunteer rooms, make the list, but and

3072
02:18:24.559 --> 02:18:28.160
they've done that thoughtfully and with

3073
02:18:26.559 --> 02:18:30.479
intention

3074
02:18:28.160 --> 02:18:32.960
um because they've had the space.

3075
02:18:30.479 --> 02:18:35.519
Likewise, we've have some schools that

3076
02:18:32.960 --> 02:18:37.840
have movable walls and some teachers

3077
02:18:35.519 --> 02:18:40.160
have opened up the wall to create one

3078
02:18:37.840 --> 02:18:42.880
really big classroom instead of two

3079
02:18:40.160 --> 02:18:44.399
classrooms. So, we have to go back and

3080
02:18:42.880 --> 02:18:46.960
think about what our classroom

3081
02:18:44.399 --> 02:18:49.120
designations actually originally were

3082
02:18:46.960 --> 02:18:52.639
based on the information square footage

3083
02:18:49.120 --> 02:18:54.960
and the like that has been shared. So

3084
02:18:52.639 --> 02:18:57.359
because of those conversions, our

3085
02:18:54.960 --> 02:18:59.280
community and sometimes our own staff

3086
02:18:57.359 --> 02:19:01.200
see that there's not as much space

3087
02:18:59.280 --> 02:19:03.120
available within the school because they

3088
02:19:01.200 --> 02:19:04.559
don't go back to think about what that

3089
02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:06.559
space might have originally been

3090
02:19:04.559 --> 02:19:09.200
designed for. And therefore, it looks

3091
02:19:06.559 --> 02:19:11.200
like there's less capacity than

3092
02:19:09.200 --> 02:19:12.880
otherwise would be. Therefore, by

3093
02:19:11.200 --> 02:19:14.719
rethinking our capacity and ensuring

3094
02:19:12.880 --> 02:19:16.960
that we are using classrooms as pre

3095
02:19:14.719 --> 02:19:19.439
previously designed, going back to the

3096
02:19:16.960 --> 02:19:20.880
classroom model, we are actually better

3097
02:19:19.439 --> 02:19:22.559
able to ensure the goal of not

3098
02:19:20.880 --> 02:19:24.719
overfilling our classrooms and our

3099
02:19:22.559 --> 02:19:26.639
schools beyond their capacity. Though

3100
02:19:24.719 --> 02:19:28.399
there may be some outliers to this, we

3101
02:19:26.639 --> 02:19:30.080
intend to smooth out as many currently

3102
02:19:28.399 --> 02:19:33.439
large classes to better align with our

3103
02:19:30.080 --> 02:19:34.880
overarching goals of of our class sizes

3104
02:19:33.439 --> 02:19:37.359
while maintaining the negotiated

3105
02:19:34.880 --> 02:19:40.960
contract language around class size

3106
02:19:37.359 --> 02:19:42.559
maximums at a minimum. Ultimately, our

3107
02:19:40.960 --> 02:19:44.240
space availabilities in relation to

3108
02:19:42.559 --> 02:19:46.240
school capacity is managed solely

3109
02:19:44.240 --> 02:19:48.640
through the identification, usage of,

3110
02:19:46.240 --> 02:19:50.399
and designated classroom spaces. By

3111
02:19:48.640 --> 02:19:53.359
ensuring we're utilizing every single

3112
02:19:50.399 --> 02:19:55.280
one of those, uh we can maximize our

3113
02:19:53.359 --> 02:19:57.040
school capacity while simultaneously

3114
02:19:55.280 --> 02:19:58.880
ensuring that we are not overfilling our

3115
02:19:57.040 --> 02:20:01.600
classrooms by managing the choice

3116
02:19:58.880 --> 02:20:04.880
enrollment process by denying the

3117
02:20:01.600 --> 02:20:08.479
opportunity to accept a seat um in that

3118
02:20:04.880 --> 02:20:10.080
space. And so that's kind of what I had.

3119
02:20:08.479 --> 02:20:11.600
I can certainly talk about open

3120
02:20:10.080 --> 02:20:16.120
enrollment and how we're going to manage

3121
02:20:11.600 --> 02:20:16.120
those seats if you would like.

3122
02:20:18.800 --> 02:20:22.160
We'll just wrap up this portion before

3123
02:20:20.560 --> 02:20:23.600
we get to a discussion slide. I'm not

3124
02:20:22.160 --> 02:20:25.439
going to spend much time on it. These

3125
02:20:23.600 --> 02:20:27.520
are the three main points that really

3126
02:20:25.439 --> 02:20:31.040
summarize the methodology we use to

3127
02:20:27.520 --> 02:20:33.520
build our proposal. Uh main point is we

3128
02:20:31.040 --> 02:20:35.280
uh centered ourselves on student

3129
02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:37.920
learning experience and we've done that

3130
02:20:35.280 --> 02:20:39.520
since we started this process. We

3131
02:20:37.920 --> 02:20:41.680
engaged the community. We listened

3132
02:20:39.520 --> 02:20:43.760
first. We used their feedback to develop

3133
02:20:41.680 --> 02:20:46.000
the proposal. And then everything we

3134
02:20:43.760 --> 02:20:47.600
talked about today is what went into

3135
02:20:46.000 --> 02:20:49.520
developing that proposal that we

3136
02:20:47.600 --> 02:20:51.600
presented to you on August 25th. And

3137
02:20:49.520 --> 02:20:54.720
I'll just reemphasize because it

3138
02:20:51.600 --> 02:20:57.680
continues to be uh asked is there was no

3139
02:20:54.720 --> 02:20:59.920
single data point that we used uh

3140
02:20:57.680 --> 02:21:01.840
determine these recommendations. It was

3141
02:20:59.920 --> 02:21:03.359
all of this and we've presented this a

3142
02:21:01.840 --> 02:21:06.080
number of times. You can see how much

3143
02:21:03.359 --> 02:21:08.160
went into this presentation. So with

3144
02:21:06.080 --> 02:21:11.160
that we will open this section for

3145
02:21:08.160 --> 02:21:11.160
discussion.

3146
02:21:13.600 --> 02:21:20.880
>> I do have a question on um when we're

3147
02:21:18.080 --> 02:21:22.160
thinking of the class sizes that uh we

3148
02:21:20.880 --> 02:21:24.640
are going to have with the

3149
02:21:22.160 --> 02:21:26.160
consolidations. Um what were also the

3150
02:21:24.640 --> 02:21:27.920
considerations when you took into

3151
02:21:26.160 --> 02:21:30.800
account the programs that you would be

3152
02:21:27.920 --> 02:21:34.479
bringing into the schools? I'm really

3153
02:21:30.800 --> 02:21:36.560
particularly thinking um around um coal

3154
02:21:34.479 --> 02:21:39.120
that would feature an ILC program with

3155
02:21:36.560 --> 02:21:40.720
an IAN program and um what that

3156
02:21:39.120 --> 02:21:43.840
consideration was when we were thinking

3157
02:21:40.720 --> 02:21:46.080
about class sizes because when we were

3158
02:21:43.840 --> 02:21:49.040
talking to principles and teachers, one

3159
02:21:46.080 --> 02:21:51.760
of their um biggest points of feedback

3160
02:21:49.040 --> 02:21:54.560
was the the high needs of our students

3161
02:21:51.760 --> 02:21:58.160
that are coming in and how a classroom

3162
02:21:54.560 --> 02:21:59.680
of 18 can feel like a classroom of 30

3163
02:21:58.160 --> 02:22:01.760
because of the needs of our students.

3164
02:21:59.680 --> 02:22:03.280
And so I want to know what um those

3165
02:22:01.760 --> 02:22:04.720
considerations were. And if you're going

3166
02:22:03.280 --> 02:22:06.080
to talk about it later, that's also

3167
02:22:04.720 --> 02:22:08.080
okay.

3168
02:22:06.080 --> 02:22:10.160
>> We are going to talk about it later. And

3169
02:22:08.080 --> 02:22:14.479
I think it's an important point to to to

3170
02:22:10.160 --> 02:22:17.040
to bring up. Um, and we will have uh

3171
02:22:14.479 --> 02:22:20.560
Michelle Brener um to come up and speak

3172
02:22:17.040 --> 02:22:21.600
to this the the specifics around not

3173
02:22:20.560 --> 02:22:23.120
just what we're hearing from our

3174
02:22:21.600 --> 02:22:25.280
families that are actually in these

3175
02:22:23.120 --> 02:22:28.560
programs who we've talked to a vast

3176
02:22:25.280 --> 02:22:31.439
majority of them uh but also some of the

3177
02:22:28.560 --> 02:22:33.840
issues and challenges that actually

3178
02:22:31.439 --> 02:22:35.280
multiple programs can actually having

3179
02:22:33.840 --> 02:22:37.920
him in the same place can actually

3180
02:22:35.280 --> 02:22:40.160
support those students and other other

3181
02:22:37.920 --> 02:22:41.359
teachers as well. So more to come on

3182
02:22:40.160 --> 02:22:44.000
that. Thank you for asking that

3183
02:22:41.359 --> 02:22:46.000
question.

3184
02:22:44.000 --> 02:22:47.439
>> And then I'll just add a little bit. Um,

3185
02:22:46.000 --> 02:22:48.960
and again, executive director Michelle

3186
02:22:47.439 --> 02:22:50.720
Brener will join us for the student

3187
02:22:48.960 --> 02:22:52.319
experience portion. But one of the

3188
02:22:50.720 --> 02:22:54.800
things that I will say that our special

3189
02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:57.359
education team does is that we we build

3190
02:22:54.800 --> 02:22:59.600
programs almost every single year. And

3191
02:22:57.359 --> 02:23:02.000
so that team works very closely with Rob

3192
02:22:59.600 --> 02:23:05.200
Price depending on where the need is at

3193
02:23:02.000 --> 02:23:07.200
the school. Always reviewing the spaces,

3194
02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:09.680
looking for sensory spaces. They have

3195
02:23:07.200 --> 02:23:12.000
they are everything and precise. um

3196
02:23:09.680 --> 02:23:14.880
through a checklist of what's needed for

3197
02:23:12.000 --> 02:23:17.680
the spaces from deescalation spaces to

3198
02:23:14.880 --> 02:23:20.720
sensory spaces um you know to all the

3199
02:23:17.680 --> 02:23:23.439
areas that we need and so that is a that

3200
02:23:20.720 --> 02:23:25.200
is something we do on a regular basis

3201
02:23:23.439 --> 02:23:28.000
and so Michelle has been a part of this

3202
02:23:25.200 --> 02:23:30.399
process from the onset and in all

3203
02:23:28.000 --> 02:23:32.640
proposals looking at giving us feedback

3204
02:23:30.399 --> 02:23:35.520
on where can we do it where can we not

3205
02:23:32.640 --> 02:23:37.200
do it um those types of things and so I

3206
02:23:35.520 --> 02:23:39.359
think they're they're they're pretty

3207
02:23:37.200 --> 02:23:41.200
wellversed in building new programs and

3208
02:23:39.359 --> 02:23:44.200
looking at spaces in collaboration with

3209
02:23:41.200 --> 02:23:44.200
operations.

3210
02:23:44.399 --> 02:23:48.240
>> Alex.

3211
02:23:45.359 --> 02:23:50.640
>> Yeah. Um, thank you very much. Uh, I I

3212
02:23:48.240 --> 02:23:52.080
think this the stuff you've presented in

3213
02:23:50.640 --> 02:23:54.080
terms of the the influence of these

3214
02:23:52.080 --> 02:23:55.520
levers is really important and I think

3215
02:23:54.080 --> 02:23:57.120
really helpful for the public to

3216
02:23:55.520 --> 02:23:59.600
understand. I mean, one of the things

3217
02:23:57.120 --> 02:24:02.319
I've always mined for insight are the

3218
02:23:59.600 --> 02:24:04.000
enrollment matrices in Glenn's website

3219
02:24:02.319 --> 02:24:05.520
that are up there for every year for

3220
02:24:04.000 --> 02:24:07.439
elementary, middle, and if people

3221
02:24:05.520 --> 02:24:09.439
haven't looked at them, there's data on

3222
02:24:07.439 --> 02:24:10.560
the c the neighborhood school that

3223
02:24:09.439 --> 02:24:12.479
someone's coming from and the school

3224
02:24:10.560 --> 02:24:14.479
they're attending and those from where

3225
02:24:12.479 --> 02:24:16.479
they're outgoing, how much in district

3226
02:24:14.479 --> 02:24:17.760
and out of district enrollment there is,

3227
02:24:16.479 --> 02:24:20.080
you know, into all these schools. And

3228
02:24:17.760 --> 02:24:21.680
it's it's illustrative to me. So, like

3229
02:24:20.080 --> 02:24:23.760
for example, I live across the street

3230
02:24:21.680 --> 02:24:26.240
from Community Monasuri, which will be

3231
02:24:23.760 --> 02:24:28.319
relocated under this plan. And so one of

3232
02:24:26.240 --> 02:24:30.880
my thoughts was okay well how many of

3233
02:24:28.319 --> 02:24:33.200
those kids uh will not go with community

3234
02:24:30.880 --> 02:24:34.720
monastery will want to return to their

3235
02:24:33.200 --> 02:24:37.359
neighborhoods. They might be in the Bear

3236
02:24:34.720 --> 02:24:40.960
Creek Mesa catchment zones. Turns out

3237
02:24:37.359 --> 02:24:42.800
it's 23. So like uh some of them will go

3238
02:24:40.960 --> 02:24:44.720
to the BCSIS campus because it's not

3239
02:24:42.800 --> 02:24:46.720
that far but some will probably elect to

3240
02:24:44.720 --> 02:24:48.880
stay but we don't know. So I'm think

3241
02:24:46.720 --> 02:24:51.359
okay there's a universe of 23 kids who

3242
02:24:48.880 --> 02:24:52.720
are going to impact who should have a

3243
02:24:51.359 --> 02:24:54.560
right to enroll in their neighborhood

3244
02:24:52.720 --> 02:24:57.359
school which will now bear creek who'd

3245
02:24:54.560 --> 02:24:59.520
been in the Mason Bear Creek collective

3246
02:24:57.359 --> 02:25:02.560
catchment zones when you do the planning

3247
02:24:59.520 --> 02:25:04.080
for like expecting capacity uh in the

3248
02:25:02.560 --> 02:25:05.680
region which is one of the reasons why

3249
02:25:04.080 --> 02:25:08.720
we need to do this regionally not school

3250
02:25:05.680 --> 02:25:11.040
by school. Um do do you take into

3251
02:25:08.720 --> 02:25:13.040
account like all the schools that might

3252
02:25:11.040 --> 02:25:15.359
be affected? So another school is

3253
02:25:13.040 --> 02:25:17.760
closing at Flat Irons and Community

3254
02:25:15.359 --> 02:25:19.120
Monastery is moving and Mesa is closing.

3255
02:25:17.760 --> 02:25:21.040
So from where I live, there's two

3256
02:25:19.120 --> 02:25:22.880
buildings that will not have schools in

3257
02:25:21.040 --> 02:25:24.640
them in the future and we got to figure

3258
02:25:22.880 --> 02:25:27.600
out where all those kids would go. And

3259
02:25:24.640 --> 02:25:29.680
then how do you predict where a Mesa

3260
02:25:27.600 --> 02:25:31.439
family like we can assume we'll probably

3261
02:25:29.680 --> 02:25:33.520
have 30 40% not go where they're

3262
02:25:31.439 --> 02:25:35.200
assigned because that's always the case.

3263
02:25:33.520 --> 02:25:37.200
But do we have any more insight to think

3264
02:25:35.200 --> 02:25:40.080
about other than those big ratios of

3265
02:25:37.200 --> 02:25:42.000
likely choosing out?

3266
02:25:40.080 --> 02:25:43.920
>> Yeah. predict that the behavioral piece

3267
02:25:42.000 --> 02:25:45.359
with open enrollment is really tough.

3268
02:25:43.920 --> 02:25:48.000
There isn't much information that can

3269
02:25:45.359 --> 02:25:49.520
guide us how all of those interactions

3270
02:25:48.000 --> 02:25:51.439
will play out, especially when you

3271
02:25:49.520 --> 02:25:53.439
change things because all of the base

3272
02:25:51.439 --> 02:25:54.960
assumptions are gone. Uh that's why we

3273
02:25:53.439 --> 02:25:57.280
do try to anchor ourselves in that

3274
02:25:54.960 --> 02:25:58.960
resident population. So, can the

3275
02:25:57.280 --> 02:26:02.560
resident population, for example, of

3276
02:25:58.960 --> 02:26:04.720
Mesa, Bear Creek, um in the dual area,

3277
02:26:02.560 --> 02:26:06.560
all of those students fit in into the

3278
02:26:04.720 --> 02:26:08.560
school? And the answer that we've shown

3279
02:26:06.560 --> 02:26:10.160
is yes. So that's probably the best way

3280
02:26:08.560 --> 02:26:12.399
to deal with that than trying to track

3281
02:26:10.160 --> 02:26:14.080
every single possible, you know,

3282
02:26:12.399 --> 02:26:15.920
scenario out there.

3283
02:26:14.080 --> 02:26:18.160
>> If I may follow up on that, one of the

3284
02:26:15.920 --> 02:26:19.760
things I've been advocating for since

3285
02:26:18.160 --> 02:26:22.319
actually for two decades in this

3286
02:26:19.760 --> 02:26:23.920
district, when we have so much choice, I

3287
02:26:22.319 --> 02:26:25.520
believe I support neighborhood schools

3288
02:26:23.920 --> 02:26:27.280
and I don't want people to enroll in

3289
02:26:25.520 --> 02:26:29.840
private schools when we don't let them

3290
02:26:27.280 --> 02:26:31.760
back into their neighborhood school. So

3291
02:26:29.840 --> 02:26:33.760
I'm going to be proposing and I'd like

3292
02:26:31.760 --> 02:26:36.720
your reaction to the idea that if

3293
02:26:33.760 --> 02:26:38.240
someone's in a choice school, a focus

3294
02:26:36.720 --> 02:26:40.560
school, let's say particularly high

3295
02:26:38.240 --> 02:26:42.080
peaks or community monastery and they

3296
02:26:40.560 --> 02:26:43.920
don't want to go to the relocated

3297
02:26:42.080 --> 02:26:45.760
version, I don't think they should have

3298
02:26:43.920 --> 02:26:47.359
an enrollment preference. I think they

3299
02:26:45.760 --> 02:26:49.040
should have an enrollment right like any

3300
02:26:47.359 --> 02:26:51.120
other resident to enroll the next school

3301
02:26:49.040 --> 02:26:53.280
year in that school. what would be the

3302
02:26:51.120 --> 02:26:55.840
implications of making a change to the

3303
02:26:53.280 --> 02:26:57.840
proposal to

3304
02:26:55.840 --> 02:26:59.840
uh do what I think is in best interest

3305
02:26:57.840 --> 02:27:02.240
of our long-term enrollment which is to

3306
02:26:59.840 --> 02:27:03.680
give people the right of return the

3307
02:27:02.240 --> 02:27:06.000
following school year to their

3308
02:27:03.680 --> 02:27:07.520
neighborhood school and so I look at

3309
02:27:06.000 --> 02:27:10.000
those numbers from community monastery

3310
02:27:07.520 --> 02:27:12.160
within the Bear Creek Mesa and duel Bear

3311
02:27:10.000 --> 02:27:15.760
Creek Mesa enrollment place that's 23

3312
02:27:12.160 --> 02:27:19.359
kids if those 23 kids don't want to go

3313
02:27:15.760 --> 02:27:20.720
to the Aurora 7 campus I want them to

3314
02:27:19.359 --> 02:27:22.800
have a right to stay in their

3315
02:27:20.720 --> 02:27:24.160
neighborhood and not go behind, frankly,

3316
02:27:22.800 --> 02:27:26.240
someone who's been enrolled in a private

3317
02:27:24.160 --> 02:27:27.840
school or homeschooling ahead of them uh

3318
02:27:26.240 --> 02:27:29.600
into what could be a more crowded

3319
02:27:27.840 --> 02:27:31.040
school. Have you taken thought about

3320
02:27:29.600 --> 02:27:34.880
that? And what would be the implications

3321
02:27:31.040 --> 02:27:37.040
of providing that? Right.

3322
02:27:34.880 --> 02:27:39.520
>> Thank you, board member Medler, and and

3323
02:27:37.040 --> 02:27:41.520
um and appreciate this is as as a

3324
02:27:39.520 --> 02:27:43.280
long-standing passion of yours that that

3325
02:27:41.520 --> 02:27:45.120
you have have brought forward on

3326
02:27:43.280 --> 02:27:48.080
multiple occasions, and so do appreciate

3327
02:27:45.120 --> 02:27:51.439
that. Uh it just I think there there's a

3328
02:27:48.080 --> 02:27:53.200
couple of factors. It depends on timing,

3329
02:27:51.439 --> 02:27:55.600
right? Like, so are you saying that they

3330
02:27:53.200 --> 02:27:57.680
would because

3331
02:27:55.600 --> 02:27:59.600
if you're proposing that they would have

3332
02:27:57.680 --> 02:28:02.000
to declare before open enrollment

3333
02:27:59.600 --> 02:28:03.600
starts,

3334
02:28:02.000 --> 02:28:04.800
right? Because if you don't know where

3335
02:28:03.600 --> 02:28:06.720
they're going to go, then you don't know

3336
02:28:04.800 --> 02:28:09.439
what seats you can open part of as part

3337
02:28:06.720 --> 02:28:11.280
of open enrollment. And I think the hard

3338
02:28:09.439 --> 02:28:12.720
thing about managing something like

3339
02:28:11.280 --> 02:28:14.560
this, not impossible, we're not talking

3340
02:28:12.720 --> 02:28:17.680
about lots of kids, right? This is a

3341
02:28:14.560 --> 02:28:20.000
small group of kids is do you hold open

3342
02:28:17.680 --> 02:28:22.399
seats during a process that takes

3343
02:28:20.000 --> 02:28:25.520
opportunity away from others to hold it

3344
02:28:22.399 --> 02:28:28.000
for some? So if you've chosen to go to

3345
02:28:25.520 --> 02:28:30.640
high peaks or say say you've chosen to

3346
02:28:28.000 --> 02:28:35.680
go to community monastery

3347
02:28:30.640 --> 02:28:38.319
um and uh then you decide

3348
02:28:35.680 --> 02:28:40.080
before open enrollment window closes or

3349
02:28:38.319 --> 02:28:44.680
before we start the process of of

3350
02:28:40.080 --> 02:28:44.680
placing students. Um

3351
02:28:45.359 --> 02:28:49.680
if you would have to do it ahead of that

3352
02:28:47.600 --> 02:28:51.680
to not have to to be able to have that

3353
02:28:49.680 --> 02:28:55.920
seat reserved for that for that student

3354
02:28:51.680 --> 02:28:58.720
to come back. Um, so timing is one and

3355
02:28:55.920 --> 02:29:00.319
if it's if it's at any time at any point

3356
02:28:58.720 --> 02:29:02.720
I think what could potentially be

3357
02:29:00.319 --> 02:29:04.960
impacted is um you know again we're

3358
02:29:02.720 --> 02:29:07.439
talking about small groups of students

3359
02:29:04.960 --> 02:29:09.520
uh would it ever be that one student

3360
02:29:07.439 --> 02:29:11.920
that would tip you over a class size to

3361
02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:13.439
add another section and in that instance

3362
02:29:11.920 --> 02:29:15.520
do you have a classroom to put that

3363
02:29:13.439 --> 02:29:16.640
section in?

3364
02:29:15.520 --> 02:29:19.359
I mean I think those are the

3365
02:29:16.640 --> 02:29:20.880
considerations like so for the worst

3366
02:29:19.359 --> 02:29:22.720
case like like the worst possible

3367
02:29:20.880 --> 02:29:24.560
scenario I'm describing for you which I

3368
02:29:22.720 --> 02:29:29.520
the the likelihood I I don't think is is

3369
02:29:24.560 --> 02:29:32.720
is really high is you have a student uh

3370
02:29:29.520 --> 02:29:34.960
who at some point um if they don't tell

3371
02:29:32.720 --> 02:29:36.880
you ahead of time

3372
02:29:34.960 --> 02:29:38.880
then then you would have to keep a seat

3373
02:29:36.880 --> 02:29:40.640
open for the potential for that kid to

3374
02:29:38.880 --> 02:29:42.399
to come over so they wouldn't tip you

3375
02:29:40.640 --> 02:29:46.240
over a class-siz trigger that would add

3376
02:29:42.399 --> 02:29:48.399
another section but again very small um

3377
02:29:46.240 --> 02:29:50.240
in the consideration I think we're

3378
02:29:48.399 --> 02:29:52.800
talking about small numbers of students

3379
02:29:50.240 --> 02:29:55.280
and I'll look to the team to to to to to

3380
02:29:52.800 --> 02:29:57.200
add any more context before for before

3381
02:29:55.280 --> 02:29:59.920
board member Medler's follow-up?

3382
02:29:57.200 --> 02:30:02.399
>> No. And I I we would have to analyze it.

3383
02:29:59.920 --> 02:30:03.920
Uh board member Medler, I um I don't

3384
02:30:02.399 --> 02:30:05.520
know if I can sit here today and answer

3385
02:30:03.920 --> 02:30:07.040
that question. What does it mean for our

3386
02:30:05.520 --> 02:30:08.560
projections, etc. I think it's something

3387
02:30:07.040 --> 02:30:10.479
we would have to analyze school by

3388
02:30:08.560 --> 02:30:11.439
school. It's not just one building. If

3389
02:30:10.479 --> 02:30:13.200
you do it, you're going to do it for

3390
02:30:11.439 --> 02:30:16.240
all. So, we'd have to see what that

3391
02:30:13.200 --> 02:30:18.399
impact is across the district.

3392
02:30:16.240 --> 02:30:19.920
>> I've actually asked you to do that a few

3393
02:30:18.399 --> 02:30:23.200
times. So, I would love to see the

3394
02:30:19.920 --> 02:30:24.880
analysis. I I'd also also suggest that

3395
02:30:23.200 --> 02:30:26.560
the numbers we're talking about are not

3396
02:30:24.880 --> 02:30:28.240
100% of those people who would want to

3397
02:30:26.560 --> 02:30:29.520
exercise that. They didn't choose their

3398
02:30:28.240 --> 02:30:31.200
neighborhood school for a reason. So

3399
02:30:29.520 --> 02:30:32.560
there's quite likely a reason why they

3400
02:30:31.200 --> 02:30:34.720
would choose a different neighborhood

3401
02:30:32.560 --> 02:30:36.399
school afterwards. So I think the

3402
02:30:34.720 --> 02:30:37.840
numbers get even smaller. And for the

3403
02:30:36.399 --> 02:30:40.000
last two years, I have said I'd be

3404
02:30:37.840 --> 02:30:41.840
delighted to have it be happen before.

3405
02:30:40.000 --> 02:30:44.479
So I think the sort of timing is

3406
02:30:41.840 --> 02:30:45.920
something that that's fair. Um, but I

3407
02:30:44.479 --> 02:30:47.920
will add the reason I've been advocating

3408
02:30:45.920 --> 02:30:49.600
for this ye for years in a declining

3409
02:30:47.920 --> 02:30:51.840
enrollment thing is first it's good for

3410
02:30:49.600 --> 02:30:53.280
kids because people have exercised a

3411
02:30:51.840 --> 02:30:54.640
choice and maybe they found the choice

3412
02:30:53.280 --> 02:30:56.080
was bad and they just even if they're

3413
02:30:54.640 --> 02:30:57.439
not closing they should return to their

3414
02:30:56.080 --> 02:30:59.920
school because it's where they want

3415
02:30:57.439 --> 02:31:01.840
their kid to be. Secondly, we are losing

3416
02:30:59.920 --> 02:31:04.960
somewhere around and Glenn can correct

3417
02:31:01.840 --> 02:31:07.120
me. I might estimate you know 2,2200

3418
02:31:04.960 --> 02:31:09.439
kids to private schools, homeschool

3419
02:31:07.120 --> 02:31:11.840
enrollment or we know we're losing,00

3420
02:31:09.439 --> 02:31:13.200
kids to out of district enrollment. So,

3421
02:31:11.840 --> 02:31:14.640
these are people who didn't chose their

3422
02:31:13.200 --> 02:31:16.880
neighborhood school, chose something

3423
02:31:14.640 --> 02:31:19.280
else, uh, can't even get back to their

3424
02:31:16.880 --> 02:31:20.960
neighborhood school. So, I think they're

3425
02:31:19.280 --> 02:31:23.040
highly likely to be the people who will

3426
02:31:20.960 --> 02:31:24.640
homeschool uh, open enroll of the

3427
02:31:23.040 --> 02:31:26.479
district or private school their

3428
02:31:24.640 --> 02:31:29.439
student. So, when we're trying to save

3429
02:31:26.479 --> 02:31:31.680
every kid we can, I think a right of

3430
02:31:29.439 --> 02:31:33.760
return is actually the moral thing to

3431
02:31:31.680 --> 02:31:35.600
do, the educational thing to do, and the

3432
02:31:33.760 --> 02:31:36.720
long-term financial thing to do. That's

3433
02:31:35.600 --> 02:31:39.040
those are all the reasons why I

3434
02:31:36.720 --> 02:31:40.560
advocate. And then I asked for in a

3435
02:31:39.040 --> 02:31:42.000
request for information earlier this

3436
02:31:40.560 --> 02:31:44.080
year that took a long time to get

3437
02:31:42.000 --> 02:31:46.319
fulfilled, I might add. And the numbers

3438
02:31:44.080 --> 02:31:48.800
are really small. So that's why I mean,

3439
02:31:46.319 --> 02:31:50.240
you can look back at the RFI put in that

3440
02:31:48.800 --> 02:31:51.840
you submitted to me, and you'll see that

3441
02:31:50.240 --> 02:31:54.880
these numbers are small. So, I'm going

3442
02:31:51.840 --> 02:31:57.120
to be pushing I will I will propose an

3443
02:31:54.880 --> 02:32:00.240
amendment to the resolution that will

3444
02:31:57.120 --> 02:32:03.439
say that I believe students in uh

3445
02:32:00.240 --> 02:32:05.120
schools that are uh focused schools,

3446
02:32:03.439 --> 02:32:07.359
choice only schools that are being

3447
02:32:05.120 --> 02:32:08.960
relocated should have not an open

3448
02:32:07.359 --> 02:32:10.720
enrollment preference but a right of

3449
02:32:08.960 --> 02:32:12.399
return to their school if they designate

3450
02:32:10.720 --> 02:32:14.800
that that's what they want to do during

3451
02:32:12.399 --> 02:32:16.160
the open enrollment period. So, um I'd

3452
02:32:14.800 --> 02:32:18.080
like more data on that. I think the

3453
02:32:16.160 --> 02:32:19.600
numbers are small. I think there's three

3454
02:32:18.080 --> 02:32:21.040
or four different domains in which it's

3455
02:32:19.600 --> 02:32:23.439
the right thing for the district and for

3456
02:32:21.040 --> 02:32:25.280
our kids.

3457
02:32:23.439 --> 02:32:26.880
>> Thank you, board member Medler. I do

3458
02:32:25.280 --> 02:32:29.280
appreciate your advocacy on this point.

3459
02:32:26.880 --> 02:32:31.760
I will say that um the way that we've

3460
02:32:29.280 --> 02:32:35.520
structured this in this priority

3461
02:32:31.760 --> 02:32:38.080
enrollment choice preference does move

3462
02:32:35.520 --> 02:32:42.399
anyone who is impacted both at focus

3463
02:32:38.080 --> 02:32:44.960
schools and um schools that are being um

3464
02:32:42.399 --> 02:32:50.000
closed or consolidated somewhere else.

3465
02:32:44.960 --> 02:32:53.040
um the very first uh preference. Um and

3466
02:32:50.000 --> 02:32:56.640
again, vast majority of our schools are

3467
02:32:53.040 --> 02:32:58.720
going to have room. Some schools, Bear

3468
02:32:56.640 --> 02:33:00.000
Creek Mesa, Superior Elementary, these

3469
02:32:58.720 --> 02:33:02.479
are schools that we've been transparent

3470
02:33:00.000 --> 02:33:05.920
with the community on. Those numbers

3471
02:33:02.479 --> 02:33:07.280
will be tight. And if there's a proposal

3472
02:33:05.920 --> 02:33:09.520
that that the board would like to

3473
02:33:07.280 --> 02:33:11.920
consider around this, I think the thing

3474
02:33:09.520 --> 02:33:14.000
to think about is this even part of open

3475
02:33:11.920 --> 02:33:15.520
enrollment or do you just reach out to

3476
02:33:14.000 --> 02:33:16.720
the folks in the focus schools and ask

3477
02:33:15.520 --> 02:33:18.080
them if they'd want to go back to their

3478
02:33:16.720 --> 02:33:20.479
neighborhood schools prior to that that

3479
02:33:18.080 --> 02:33:21.920
that open enrollment window. I know that

3480
02:33:20.479 --> 02:33:23.520
the board has considered this and not

3481
02:33:21.920 --> 02:33:25.920
taken action on this previously and I

3482
02:33:23.520 --> 02:33:27.280
know this is board member Medler's um he

3483
02:33:25.920 --> 02:33:29.200
he's bringing this up at this moment

3484
02:33:27.280 --> 02:33:31.040
which I which I honor. Um, but I would

3485
02:33:29.200 --> 02:33:34.640
say that that would probably the me be

3486
02:33:31.040 --> 02:33:36.880
the mechanism that you would have to do

3487
02:33:34.640 --> 02:33:39.840
um to be able to make that insured

3488
02:33:36.880 --> 02:33:41.280
guarantee. I think the trick is based on

3489
02:33:39.840 --> 02:33:43.120
what what I've heard you say, board

3490
02:33:41.280 --> 02:33:44.560
member Medler, that you'd have to know

3491
02:33:43.120 --> 02:33:46.560
right away you didn't like your choice.

3492
02:33:44.560 --> 02:33:47.920
And if the choice, you know, midyear,

3493
02:33:46.560 --> 02:33:51.439
you know, you know, you'd have to you'd

3494
02:33:47.920 --> 02:33:53.520
have to know theoretically before um

3495
02:33:51.439 --> 02:33:55.760
before December 16th, I think would be

3496
02:33:53.520 --> 02:33:57.520
the last because that's when we close

3497
02:33:55.760 --> 02:33:59.680
the window and that's when we'd process

3498
02:33:57.520 --> 02:34:01.040
the seats and things of that nature. So

3499
02:33:59.680 --> 02:34:02.560
I I would say that those would be the

3500
02:34:01.040 --> 02:34:04.240
things for the board to consider if

3501
02:34:02.560 --> 02:34:07.280
that's something that you wanted to to

3502
02:34:04.240 --> 02:34:10.280
to entertain.

3503
02:34:07.280 --> 02:34:10.280
Deian,

3504
02:34:10.319 --> 02:34:17.120
>> uh, my question about these the

3505
02:34:12.720 --> 02:34:19.520
management of, um, open enrollment is,

3506
02:34:17.120 --> 02:34:23.520
uh, pretty particular, so I'll just be

3507
02:34:19.520 --> 02:34:27.359
specific about it. Will, um, managing

3508
02:34:23.520 --> 02:34:29.840
the open enrollment at High Peaks bring

3509
02:34:27.359 --> 02:34:32.160
that school to capacity, so we'll open

3510
02:34:29.840 --> 02:34:36.600
it up for

3511
02:34:32.160 --> 02:34:36.600
a hundred children to come.

3512
02:34:36.800 --> 02:34:41.680
I believe yes. The answer is is that as

3513
02:34:39.439 --> 02:34:44.800
as when we looked at at High Peaks and

3514
02:34:41.680 --> 02:34:47.120
we looked at all of our our our um our

3515
02:34:44.800 --> 02:34:49.680
focus programs, uh we have a a standing

3516
02:34:47.120 --> 02:34:51.680
weight list at High Peaks. Um that has

3517
02:34:49.680 --> 02:34:54.880
been limited traditionally by by two

3518
02:34:51.680 --> 02:34:57.200
rounds. Um by move by moving that school

3519
02:34:54.880 --> 02:34:59.120
into um its new location, you'd be able

3520
02:34:57.200 --> 02:35:01.760
to expand that to three rounds, which

3521
02:34:59.120 --> 02:35:03.840
would then expand opportunities for

3522
02:35:01.760 --> 02:35:05.680
anyone who who would be interested. But

3523
02:35:03.840 --> 02:35:08.560
again, anybody who's impacted would have

3524
02:35:05.680 --> 02:35:11.120
that priority enrollment preference uh

3525
02:35:08.560 --> 02:35:13.200
to be able to to apply apply for those

3526
02:35:11.120 --> 02:35:16.560
new opportunities.

3527
02:35:13.200 --> 02:35:18.640
>> Does does the priority

3528
02:35:16.560 --> 02:35:20.399
um

3529
02:35:18.640 --> 02:35:22.240
the priority enrollment of people who

3530
02:35:20.399 --> 02:35:26.000
are impacted

3531
02:35:22.240 --> 02:35:29.000
um override the longstanding weight

3532
02:35:26.000 --> 02:35:29.000
list?

3533
02:35:30.560 --> 02:35:36.399
Yeah, thanks Deian or board member

3534
02:35:33.359 --> 02:35:38.720
Booker. Sorry about that. um uh the

3535
02:35:36.399 --> 02:35:41.280
priority improvement is meant for that

3536
02:35:38.720 --> 02:35:45.680
and you have to each year open

3537
02:35:41.280 --> 02:35:47.680
enrollment re redo itself and so a

3538
02:35:45.680 --> 02:35:50.560
family would have to recommmit to

3539
02:35:47.680 --> 02:35:54.319
wanting to open enroll to say High Peaks

3540
02:35:50.560 --> 02:35:56.560
and at that point the or out of that the

3541
02:35:54.319 --> 02:35:58.319
school to go to another school and

3542
02:35:56.560 --> 02:36:00.560
therefore if they're an impacted family

3543
02:35:58.319 --> 02:36:04.160
that priority component would be a

3544
02:36:00.560 --> 02:36:07.439
factor that would um supersede a general

3545
02:36:04.160 --> 02:36:10.479
all open enrollment um request through

3546
02:36:07.439 --> 02:36:12.080
our normal process. But every year a

3547
02:36:10.479 --> 02:36:14.720
family has to re-up their open

3548
02:36:12.080 --> 02:36:16.800
enrollment requests um regardless of

3549
02:36:14.720 --> 02:36:18.560
level and regardless of where they

3550
02:36:16.800 --> 02:36:20.240
currently attend unless they've been

3551
02:36:18.560 --> 02:36:21.920
accepted in a school. Then it's assuming

3552
02:36:20.240 --> 02:36:24.560
that they're going to carry forward

3553
02:36:21.920 --> 02:36:28.280
unless they choose to open enroll or

3554
02:36:24.560 --> 02:36:28.280
choice and roll out.

3555
02:36:30.960 --> 02:36:38.000
I just needed to clarify the weight list

3556
02:36:33.760 --> 02:36:39.520
piece also and so thank you.

3557
02:36:38.000 --> 02:36:42.880
So going back to the question I asked

3558
02:36:39.520 --> 02:36:46.000
before the recess

3559
02:36:42.880 --> 02:36:48.960
given the number of where we could

3560
02:36:46.000 --> 02:36:51.520
completely consolidate we did in

3561
02:36:48.960 --> 02:36:53.840
instances where consolid consolidation

3562
02:36:51.520 --> 02:36:55.439
was not possible because of the number

3563
02:36:53.840 --> 02:36:57.120
of resident students where the numbers

3564
02:36:55.439 --> 02:37:02.720
of students in those facilities did not

3565
02:36:57.120 --> 02:37:04.720
work out we then chose to um I know

3566
02:37:02.720 --> 02:37:07.120
we're using the word closure and

3567
02:37:04.720 --> 02:37:08.800
reallocate those to either one between

3568
02:37:07.120 --> 02:37:12.160
two schools or between three schools

3569
02:37:08.800 --> 02:37:15.760
depending on those resident students and

3570
02:37:12.160 --> 02:37:17.280
depending on in some cases I mean

3571
02:37:15.760 --> 02:37:19.200
logistics

3572
02:37:17.280 --> 02:37:24.080
I would say like where those families

3573
02:37:19.200 --> 02:37:26.319
lived in proximity to other facilities

3574
02:37:24.080 --> 02:37:27.920
is that the case

3575
02:37:26.319 --> 02:37:29.280
>> yeah you framed it well and that is

3576
02:37:27.920 --> 02:37:33.680
correct yes

3577
02:37:29.280 --> 02:37:38.399
>> thank you Lany Lana and I think for

3578
02:37:33.680 --> 02:37:43.120
clarity for the community Um,

3579
02:37:38.399 --> 02:37:46.319
if you were to be reszoned to a

3580
02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:49.359
different elementary school, you would

3581
02:37:46.319 --> 02:37:50.880
always have a bus to that. Correct. I'm

3582
02:37:49.359 --> 02:37:54.399
not talking about focus schools. I'm

3583
02:37:50.880 --> 02:37:55.920
talking about if you were um

3584
02:37:54.399 --> 02:37:58.319
at

3585
02:37:55.920 --> 02:38:01.680
Flat Irons, you would have a bus to

3586
02:37:58.319 --> 02:38:03.680
either Whittier or Foothill. If you were

3587
02:38:01.680 --> 02:38:06.080
at Douglas, you'd have a bus to one of

3588
02:38:03.680 --> 02:38:07.439
the three particular schools. There

3589
02:38:06.080 --> 02:38:08.240
would never be a time you wouldn't have

3590
02:38:07.439 --> 02:38:10.319
a bus.

3591
02:38:08.240 --> 02:38:12.080
>> No, that that would not be a correct

3592
02:38:10.319 --> 02:38:13.280
statement, but we will get into the

3593
02:38:12.080 --> 02:38:14.720
transportation.

3594
02:38:13.280 --> 02:38:16.720
>> Okay. Thanks.

3595
02:38:14.720 --> 02:38:17.280
>> The slide deck will address that when we

3596
02:38:16.720 --> 02:38:18.960
get there.

3597
02:38:17.280 --> 02:38:22.000
>> Okay. I just want to make sure that we

3598
02:38:18.960 --> 02:38:25.040
really help people to understand how how

3599
02:38:22.000 --> 02:38:26.399
we're navigating that.

3600
02:38:25.040 --> 02:38:27.840
>> Anna and then Alex.

3601
02:38:26.399 --> 02:38:29.439
>> Thank you. And I do want to make sure

3602
02:38:27.840 --> 02:38:32.800
that as we're going into the

3603
02:38:29.439 --> 02:38:36.000
conversation of resources um that again

3604
02:38:32.800 --> 02:38:40.080
we are considering that in Broomfield um

3605
02:38:36.000 --> 02:38:44.160
we did have a consistent um

3606
02:38:40.080 --> 02:38:47.359
uh open enrollment uh cohort of students

3607
02:38:44.160 --> 02:38:49.600
coming into our schools. Um that did

3608
02:38:47.359 --> 02:38:53.280
give us an average of around 230

3609
02:38:49.600 --> 02:38:55.200
students every single year. um and

3610
02:38:53.280 --> 02:38:57.200
really taking into account that that is

3611
02:38:55.200 --> 02:38:59.200
just a significant amount of students

3612
02:38:57.200 --> 02:39:01.120
within coming into our district that are

3613
02:38:59.200 --> 02:39:03.680
out of district. That would be a

3614
02:39:01.120 --> 02:39:07.200
significant amount of money uh on top of

3615
02:39:03.680 --> 02:39:09.200
the money that we're trying to um uh

3616
02:39:07.200 --> 02:39:11.840
really save and sustain to ensure that

3617
02:39:09.200 --> 02:39:14.560
we have those resources in our schools.

3618
02:39:11.840 --> 02:39:18.479
And so I want to just not lose the point

3619
02:39:14.560 --> 02:39:21.439
of making sure that I understand the

3620
02:39:18.479 --> 02:39:24.000
banking on an open enrollment uh out of

3621
02:39:21.439 --> 02:39:26.720
district student um when we're creating

3622
02:39:24.000 --> 02:39:29.040
our budgets is irresponsible. But I do

3623
02:39:26.720 --> 02:39:31.920
want to also highlight that this has

3624
02:39:29.040 --> 02:39:34.640
been a consistent group coming into this

3625
02:39:31.920 --> 02:39:37.040
coming into the district from from out

3626
02:39:34.640 --> 02:39:39.600
of district students. And so really

3627
02:39:37.040 --> 02:39:41.920
reconsidering uh like the rebalance

3628
02:39:39.600 --> 02:39:44.319
within Broomfield knowing that we

3629
02:39:41.920 --> 02:39:47.280
already have of our four elementary

3630
02:39:44.319 --> 02:39:50.160
schools, two of those are already at or

3631
02:39:47.280 --> 02:39:51.600
over capacity already. Um and so just

3632
02:39:50.160 --> 02:39:53.120
making sure as we're going into the

3633
02:39:51.600 --> 02:39:56.000
resource conversation that we're not

3634
02:39:53.120 --> 02:39:58.240
losing track of of the

3635
02:39:56.000 --> 02:40:00.399
students that we have coming in out of

3636
02:39:58.240 --> 02:40:02.160
district that provide a significant

3637
02:40:00.399 --> 02:40:05.200
amount of dollars that come into the

3638
02:40:02.160 --> 02:40:06.800
district as well.

3639
02:40:05.200 --> 02:40:10.399
>> Thank you. Thank you for that question.

3640
02:40:06.800 --> 02:40:14.520
I I will say that uh can you go back to

3641
02:40:10.399 --> 02:40:14.520
slide uh 19

3642
02:40:21.760 --> 02:40:27.200
as we think about the students that have

3643
02:40:23.920 --> 02:40:29.680
o openen enrolled into Birch Elementary

3644
02:40:27.200 --> 02:40:31.680
School from outside the district. Um, as

3645
02:40:29.680 --> 02:40:34.240
a reminder, board members, in the

3646
02:40:31.680 --> 02:40:35.520
proposal that those students, even

3647
02:40:34.240 --> 02:40:38.399
though they're out of district, would

3648
02:40:35.520 --> 02:40:40.240
get a priority enrollment preference.

3649
02:40:38.399 --> 02:40:44.399
And if you could look at the enrollment

3650
02:40:40.240 --> 02:40:46.800
of of Cole, uh, it's one of our largest

3651
02:40:44.399 --> 02:40:49.200
elementary schools.

3652
02:40:46.800 --> 02:40:51.840
So, so there there will be space for

3653
02:40:49.200 --> 02:40:54.479
open enrollment at Cole Elementary

3654
02:40:51.840 --> 02:40:57.520
School from out of district students. Um

3655
02:40:54.479 --> 02:40:59.760
and again when we speak to managing

3656
02:40:57.520 --> 02:41:01.520
resident student population versus open

3657
02:40:59.760 --> 02:41:03.439
enrollment population, you know, we're

3658
02:41:01.520 --> 02:41:05.359
not closing the district to open

3659
02:41:03.439 --> 02:41:07.439
enrollment population from outside of

3660
02:41:05.359 --> 02:41:10.960
the district. I think that when our

3661
02:41:07.439 --> 02:41:13.439
resident student populations in our new

3662
02:41:10.960 --> 02:41:16.479
reconfigured schools reaches close to

3663
02:41:13.439 --> 02:41:19.680
capacity, that's when you would turn

3664
02:41:16.479 --> 02:41:21.120
that off. folks could still apply uh but

3665
02:41:19.680 --> 02:41:22.960
because of the preferences and because

3666
02:41:21.120 --> 02:41:24.160
of the amount of seats by the time that

3667
02:41:22.960 --> 02:41:26.160
their preference came in those

3668
02:41:24.160 --> 02:41:28.640
preferences would be given to resident

3669
02:41:26.160 --> 02:41:30.560
students. And so uh you know for folks

3670
02:41:28.640 --> 02:41:32.240
who are thinking we're closing open

3671
02:41:30.560 --> 02:41:35.439
enrollment at Birch, we're going to lose

3672
02:41:32.240 --> 02:41:37.040
all these dollars uh and and the the

3673
02:41:35.439 --> 02:41:38.720
dollars that we're going to lose doesn't

3674
02:41:37.040 --> 02:41:40.560
support what it is that we're trying to

3675
02:41:38.720 --> 02:41:42.640
do. I don't believe that to be the case.

3676
02:41:40.560 --> 02:41:44.800
Uh that Cole will have lots of lots of

3677
02:41:42.640 --> 02:41:46.319
space. Cole is less than a mile away

3678
02:41:44.800 --> 02:41:48.560
from Birch Elementary School. This is

3679
02:41:46.319 --> 02:41:51.439
not a school that's really really um

3680
02:41:48.560 --> 02:41:54.080
further located. And as as Rob Price

3681
02:41:51.439 --> 02:41:56.319
shared, we actually have better capacity

3682
02:41:54.080 --> 02:41:58.000
and better space at Cole Elementary

3683
02:41:56.319 --> 02:41:59.280
School to accommodate folks coming in

3684
02:41:58.000 --> 02:42:01.920
from out of the district with the

3685
02:41:59.280 --> 02:42:03.680
queuing spaces in in those areas. And so

3686
02:42:01.920 --> 02:42:06.080
do appreciate the question. I appreciate

3687
02:42:03.680 --> 02:42:08.080
the the detail of the question. Um and

3688
02:42:06.080 --> 02:42:09.280
I'd let Rob and Glenn, you know, fact

3689
02:42:08.080 --> 02:42:11.760
check me if there's anything I said

3690
02:42:09.280 --> 02:42:13.760
that's inaccurate um in in in my

3691
02:42:11.760 --> 02:42:15.040
response to that. Um, but I do think

3692
02:42:13.760 --> 02:42:17.359
it's a good question that I think we

3693
02:42:15.040 --> 02:42:19.680
should be answering in public. So,

3694
02:42:17.359 --> 02:42:21.359
>> no. And I I think you are right. One of

3695
02:42:19.680 --> 02:42:23.040
the things I wanted to pull up, I think

3696
02:42:21.359 --> 02:42:25.600
that gets missed sometimes, and I want

3697
02:42:23.040 --> 02:42:28.560
to prove this out, but we continue to

3698
02:42:25.600 --> 02:42:31.439
graduate out these really large classes,

3699
02:42:28.560 --> 02:42:33.280
right? And we're bringing in smaller,

3700
02:42:31.439 --> 02:42:34.960
much smaller than we historically have

3701
02:42:33.280 --> 02:42:37.439
seen kindergarten classes. So, we've got

3702
02:42:34.960 --> 02:42:39.359
these large cohorts that are leaving the

3703
02:42:37.439 --> 02:42:40.880
system, smaller cohorts that are coming,

3704
02:42:39.359 --> 02:42:43.120
and that's really what we're starting to

3705
02:42:40.880 --> 02:42:44.960
see. And that's kind of the same

3706
02:42:43.120 --> 02:42:46.880
throughout the system. So we we're

3707
02:42:44.960 --> 02:42:49.359
losing these larger which frees up space

3708
02:42:46.880 --> 02:42:50.960
within our buildings if if that if

3709
02:42:49.359 --> 02:42:53.680
you're following me on that. So that's

3710
02:42:50.960 --> 02:42:55.439
also what we're trying to plan for is we

3711
02:42:53.680 --> 02:42:57.760
just got smaller class sizes that are

3712
02:42:55.439 --> 02:43:00.640
coming into the system. So but I think

3713
02:42:57.760 --> 02:43:02.960
Dr. Anderson summarized it well. But uh

3714
02:43:00.640 --> 02:43:04.800
there just is a lot of nuances as we

3715
02:43:02.960 --> 02:43:06.720
think about this available space and

3716
02:43:04.800 --> 02:43:08.880
then the levers that we have as as

3717
02:43:06.720 --> 02:43:12.000
students apply uh apply through open

3718
02:43:08.880 --> 02:43:14.479
enrollment or choice enrollment um

3719
02:43:12.000 --> 02:43:16.399
through the priority preference they

3720
02:43:14.479 --> 02:43:18.960
will have that first priority if they're

3721
02:43:16.399 --> 02:43:20.399
in a closed school and then schools

3722
02:43:18.960 --> 02:43:22.240
students that are out of district would

3723
02:43:20.399 --> 02:43:23.439
fall in the typical open enrollment

3724
02:43:22.240 --> 02:43:24.960
process that they would go through

3725
02:43:23.439 --> 02:43:28.000
normally.

3726
02:43:24.960 --> 02:43:30.479
>> Thank you. And I think again my question

3727
02:43:28.000 --> 02:43:33.040
falls on the numbers of the projections

3728
02:43:30.479 --> 02:43:36.560
were that the the kindergarten classes

3729
02:43:33.040 --> 02:43:39.040
were coming in at around uh 36 each year

3730
02:43:36.560 --> 02:43:41.760
but the lived experience at Birch has

3731
02:43:39.040 --> 02:43:44.720
been that they are having students

3732
02:43:41.760 --> 02:43:46.800
coming in at 45 kindergarteners each

3733
02:43:44.720 --> 02:43:49.760
year. And so just making sure that we

3734
02:43:46.800 --> 02:43:51.840
are taking that into account of it's not

3735
02:43:49.760 --> 02:43:56.600
the it's not the steep decline that

3736
02:43:51.840 --> 02:43:56.600
we're seeing in Bold within Boulder.

3737
02:43:58.160 --> 02:44:04.080
>> Alex.

3738
02:43:59.200 --> 02:44:05.520
>> Yeah. Um I think uh I'd be curious and I

3739
02:44:04.080 --> 02:44:07.680
wouldn't put you on the spot for being

3740
02:44:05.520 --> 02:44:10.880
able to answer this now, but I'm

3741
02:44:07.680 --> 02:44:14.000
intrigued um visually when I look at

3742
02:44:10.880 --> 02:44:16.160
like slides 18 and 19. I think we're

3743
02:44:14.000 --> 02:44:18.479
kind of burying the lead. If you could

3744
02:44:16.160 --> 02:44:21.760
pull one of, let's say, slide 18 up or

3745
02:44:18.479 --> 02:44:25.840
19. Um,

3746
02:44:21.760 --> 02:44:28.080
yeah. So, for me, the whole cause of

3747
02:44:25.840 --> 02:44:31.279
this problem is the hard to estimate

3748
02:44:28.080 --> 02:44:34.240
white space between the green circle and

3749
02:44:31.279 --> 02:44:37.200
the red triangle. And I wish that was a

3750
02:44:34.240 --> 02:44:39.760
red bar because then we would see the

3751
02:44:37.200 --> 02:44:41.359
unused capacity that we don't have in

3752
02:44:39.760 --> 02:44:42.960
the schools. And a lot of these

3753
02:44:41.359 --> 02:44:45.520
questions about like well how much space

3754
02:44:42.960 --> 02:44:47.840
will there be are if we talked about

3755
02:44:45.520 --> 02:44:49.840
them in a percent of capacity of the

3756
02:44:47.840 --> 02:44:51.200
building we'd be like yeah this is a

3757
02:44:49.840 --> 02:44:53.600
manageable thing that we need to move

3758
02:44:51.200 --> 02:44:55.920
forward and manage carefully and do with

3759
02:44:53.600 --> 02:44:57.439
equity and students best interest in

3760
02:44:55.920 --> 02:44:59.520
mind but the whole reason we're doing

3761
02:44:57.439 --> 02:45:01.920
this is because we have so much open

3762
02:44:59.520 --> 02:45:06.000
space between the red triangle and the

3763
02:45:01.920 --> 02:45:07.920
green circle and um so it's and we've

3764
02:45:06.000 --> 02:45:10.880
sort of got the red line as sort of a

3765
02:45:07.920 --> 02:45:12.640
self-inflicted piece about you know

3766
02:45:10.880 --> 02:45:15.040
what's efficient for two grades before

3767
02:45:12.640 --> 02:45:17.600
we start having uh you know much more

3768
02:45:15.040 --> 02:45:20.080
expensive activity but we have this

3769
02:45:17.600 --> 02:45:23.120
building capacity that is the cause of

3770
02:45:20.080 --> 02:45:24.560
our problem and part of our asset in the

3771
02:45:23.120 --> 02:45:27.120
places that remain when we're moving

3772
02:45:24.560 --> 02:45:28.960
forward so and then we have to do that

3773
02:45:27.120 --> 02:45:30.160
with the estimation of a smaller number

3774
02:45:28.960 --> 02:45:31.600
of people moving forward because

3775
02:45:30.160 --> 02:45:34.720
enrollment's declining it's getting

3776
02:45:31.600 --> 02:45:36.560
worse so I would just bring that to I

3777
02:45:34.720 --> 02:45:39.279
guess people's attention that this

3778
02:45:36.560 --> 02:45:40.160
graphics that we've used have really

3779
02:45:39.279 --> 02:45:42.720
sort

3780
02:45:40.160 --> 02:45:44.720
visually understated the cause of the

3781
02:45:42.720 --> 02:45:48.720
problem and you know one of the assets

3782
02:45:44.720 --> 02:45:50.479
we have to solve it. Um and so I that's

3783
02:45:48.720 --> 02:45:52.240
one thing I'm just like I think we have

3784
02:45:50.479 --> 02:45:55.120
a lot to manage and choice and we always

3785
02:45:52.240 --> 02:45:56.720
have a lot to manage and choice. Um uh

3786
02:45:55.120 --> 02:46:00.120
but I just I just wanted to highlight

3787
02:45:56.720 --> 02:46:00.120
that for people.

3788
02:46:01.439 --> 02:46:07.560
>> Okay, turn it over to

3789
02:46:04.160 --> 02:46:07.560
Mr. Sutter.

3790
02:46:16.160 --> 02:46:23.279
Okay, moving into the uh reinvesting

3791
02:46:19.760 --> 02:46:25.600
into the student experience. Uh as was

3792
02:46:23.279 --> 02:46:27.600
noted at the August 25th uh board work

3793
02:46:25.600 --> 02:46:30.800
session on this topic, we estimate the

3794
02:46:27.600 --> 02:46:33.439
savings uh that could be created uh

3795
02:46:30.800 --> 02:46:35.920
between three and a half to $4 million.

3796
02:46:33.439 --> 02:46:39.040
Uh these are recurring uh annual

3797
02:46:35.920 --> 02:46:43.120
savings, so not one-time uh savings that

3798
02:46:39.040 --> 02:46:45.520
we've identified. Um we will direct

3799
02:46:43.120 --> 02:46:48.240
these uh resources toward the priorities

3800
02:46:45.520 --> 02:46:51.520
our community identified uh particularly

3801
02:46:48.240 --> 02:46:53.680
the smaller and more uniform elementary

3802
02:46:51.520 --> 02:46:55.680
class sizes

3803
02:46:53.680 --> 02:46:59.279
uh and increased access to those

3804
02:46:55.680 --> 02:47:02.800
critical staff of the elementary

3805
02:46:59.279 --> 02:47:04.399
specials and counselors and uh library

3806
02:47:02.800 --> 02:47:07.680
staff.

3807
02:47:04.399 --> 02:47:10.240
Uh recurring uh savings really matter

3808
02:47:07.680 --> 02:47:12.640
because they allow us to support the

3809
02:47:10.240 --> 02:47:15.439
student experience year after year as

3810
02:47:12.640 --> 02:47:18.720
opposed to uh one-time resources that

3811
02:47:15.439 --> 02:47:24.000
may get bu um put into a building uh to

3812
02:47:18.720 --> 02:47:28.200
support uh the um a smaller class size

3813
02:47:24.000 --> 02:47:28.200
uh for one year at a time.

3814
02:47:28.240 --> 02:47:33.359
Moving into the uh summary of the

3815
02:47:30.880 --> 02:47:37.840
estimated savings.

3816
02:47:33.359 --> 02:47:40.319
So the methodology we used on this um

3817
02:47:37.840 --> 02:47:43.760
was taking the kindergarten through

3818
02:47:40.319 --> 02:47:46.479
fifth grade classes uh or 8th grade and

3819
02:47:43.760 --> 02:47:48.479
the 2K8s that are impacted. Uh the

3820
02:47:46.479 --> 02:47:51.600
projected student counts for this

3821
02:47:48.479 --> 02:47:54.560
current year. Uh recalculating the

3822
02:47:51.600 --> 02:47:56.720
staffing with the projected number of

3823
02:47:54.560 --> 02:47:59.760
resident students postclosure or

3824
02:47:56.720 --> 02:48:03.359
consolidation of those impacted schools.

3825
02:47:59.760 --> 02:48:06.800
and then uh using the staffing formulas

3826
02:48:03.359 --> 02:48:10.800
uh that exist for this current year at

3827
02:48:06.800 --> 02:48:15.359
those uh class size maximums.

3828
02:48:10.800 --> 02:48:17.520
Uh so just rerunning the existing state.

3829
02:48:15.359 --> 02:48:20.160
The jobs that were included in this

3830
02:48:17.520 --> 02:48:23.200
analysis uh fall into two general

3831
02:48:20.160 --> 02:48:25.359
categories. the fixed operational

3832
02:48:23.200 --> 02:48:27.680
support. Uh those are building

3833
02:48:25.359 --> 02:48:31.200
administrators, clerical support, food

3834
02:48:27.680 --> 02:48:36.080
service and custodial. Uh those are the

3835
02:48:31.200 --> 02:48:40.240
kind of positions that uh move in less

3836
02:48:36.080 --> 02:48:43.120
of a straight line we'll say uh than the

3837
02:48:40.240 --> 02:48:45.520
variable classroom supports uh teachers,

3838
02:48:43.120 --> 02:48:48.479
librarians, counselors, par educators.

3839
02:48:45.520 --> 02:48:53.120
Uh so these fixed operational supports

3840
02:48:48.479 --> 02:48:56.960
are identified um per building. Uh you

3841
02:48:53.120 --> 02:48:59.200
know we have one principle per building.

3842
02:48:56.960 --> 02:49:02.479
Uh

3843
02:48:59.200 --> 02:49:05.680
the process uh is very similar to the

3844
02:49:02.479 --> 02:49:09.600
calculation that was used in 2003 and

3845
02:49:05.680 --> 02:49:13.680
2004 that I did because I was here in

3846
02:49:09.600 --> 02:49:16.800
2003 and 4 uh when we went through this.

3847
02:49:13.680 --> 02:49:20.319
uh it is documented on page 20 of the

3848
02:49:16.800 --> 02:49:22.560
20034 revised budget. So we did present

3849
02:49:20.319 --> 02:49:25.120
this information. Uh there have been

3850
02:49:22.560 --> 02:49:27.520
claims that you know we had no idea of

3851
02:49:25.120 --> 02:49:29.760
what happened back then. It actually was

3852
02:49:27.520 --> 02:49:32.080
printed in the book and you can find it

3853
02:49:29.760 --> 02:49:34.479
uh online.

3854
02:49:32.080 --> 02:49:38.800
Back then there were three schools uh

3855
02:49:34.479 --> 02:49:40.960
and 19 FTE uh that were impacted uh

3856
02:49:38.800 --> 02:49:45.120
obviously a lower dollar amount two

3857
02:49:40.960 --> 02:49:47.760
decades prior uh to now uh but is that

3858
02:49:45.120 --> 02:49:50.960
is very similar to the six schools and

3859
02:49:47.760 --> 02:49:55.840
38 FTE uh that are referenced here. So

3860
02:49:50.960 --> 02:49:58.240
very similar in the movement of uh these

3861
02:49:55.840 --> 02:50:00.240
fixed costs and these uh classroom

3862
02:49:58.240 --> 02:50:02.720
costs.

3863
02:50:00.240 --> 02:50:05.680
An assumption is being made uh that

3864
02:50:02.720 --> 02:50:08.880
preschool and special education students

3865
02:50:05.680 --> 02:50:11.600
the the movement of those programs will

3866
02:50:08.880 --> 02:50:14.880
result in all students and staff moving

3867
02:50:11.600 --> 02:50:17.040
together uh resulting in no savings. Uh

3868
02:50:14.880 --> 02:50:19.840
however, as student enrollment is

3869
02:50:17.040 --> 02:50:22.080
determined uh through the spring, the

3870
02:50:19.840 --> 02:50:24.399
actual staffing results may change with

3871
02:50:22.080 --> 02:50:27.200
special education itinerants uh or

3872
02:50:24.399 --> 02:50:30.319
potentially other positions such as uh

3873
02:50:27.200 --> 02:50:32.560
English language acquisition uh and will

3874
02:50:30.319 --> 02:50:36.399
all depend on the student demographics

3875
02:50:32.560 --> 02:50:38.479
and staff case loads. uh and obviously

3876
02:50:36.399 --> 02:50:41.120
the final results will be dependent on

3877
02:50:38.479 --> 02:50:43.359
the resident students uh who attend

3878
02:50:41.120 --> 02:50:47.880
their neighborhood schools and uh go

3879
02:50:43.359 --> 02:50:47.880
through that choice enrollment process.

3880
02:50:49.359 --> 02:50:54.800
So there were also some comments made

3881
02:50:51.920 --> 02:50:59.040
about uh you know these savings are less

3882
02:50:54.800 --> 02:51:01.920
than 1% of the operating budget or even

3883
02:50:59.040 --> 02:51:04.640
uh a rounding error in the overall

3884
02:51:01.920 --> 02:51:08.080
budget. Um the operating budget is

3885
02:51:04.640 --> 02:51:11.520
roughly $400 million for the district.

3886
02:51:08.080 --> 02:51:13.680
Um these are just some other examples of

3887
02:51:11.520 --> 02:51:16.000
programs, services, supports, and

3888
02:51:13.680 --> 02:51:19.840
educational experiences that fall into

3889
02:51:16.000 --> 02:51:22.720
the general amount being discussed. Um

3890
02:51:19.840 --> 02:51:27.520
the entire Apex Career and Technical

3891
02:51:22.720 --> 02:51:31.200
Education Center is $3.3 million. So,

3892
02:51:27.520 --> 02:51:33.920
uh, that also would be a rounding error

3893
02:51:31.200 --> 02:51:36.240
in the district's budget. Uh, the the

3894
02:51:33.920 --> 02:51:38.319
school board has invested heavily in

3895
02:51:36.240 --> 02:51:41.600
that program, uh, for all the right

3896
02:51:38.319 --> 02:51:45.439
reasons. Uh, high school interscolastic

3897
02:51:41.600 --> 02:51:48.319
athletics, uh, 2.9 million. Uh, all the

3898
02:51:45.439 --> 02:51:51.680
elementary counselors, 3.8 million. All

3899
02:51:48.319 --> 02:51:53.279
the elementary librarians, 3 million. So

3900
02:51:51.680 --> 02:51:55.439
like

3901
02:51:53.279 --> 02:51:59.040
three and a half to4 million dollars is

3902
02:51:55.439 --> 02:52:02.080
real money uh and will be invested in

3903
02:51:59.040 --> 02:52:05.520
reducing that uh variability and range

3904
02:52:02.080 --> 02:52:08.640
of uh class sizes.

3905
02:52:05.520 --> 02:52:11.680
I think that's the last slide on that.

3906
02:52:08.640 --> 02:52:13.279
If there's any questions

3907
02:52:11.680 --> 02:52:15.359
I'll go through a few more slides and

3908
02:52:13.279 --> 02:52:17.439
then we'll open up for questions. This

3909
02:52:15.359 --> 02:52:19.120
is the same slide you saw on August

3910
02:52:17.439 --> 02:52:22.000
25th. We're estimating facility

3911
02:52:19.120 --> 02:52:25.200
modifications. somewhere in the 7.5 to

3912
02:52:22.000 --> 02:52:27.920
$10 million range. Uh this cost will be

3913
02:52:25.200 --> 02:52:29.760
slightly offset by about 3 million in

3914
02:52:27.920 --> 02:52:34.160
savings from not investing in the closed

3915
02:52:29.760 --> 02:52:36.640
schools if the resolution is approved.

3916
02:52:34.160 --> 02:52:39.200
This is a breakdown of the I'm going to

3917
02:52:36.640 --> 02:52:41.279
emphasize this preliminary estimates for

3918
02:52:39.200 --> 02:52:44.319
the facility modifications. These are

3919
02:52:41.279 --> 02:52:47.120
amounts are attended intended just to

3920
02:52:44.319 --> 02:52:49.359
establish at a reasonable range. only

3921
02:52:47.120 --> 02:52:52.560
final cost and scope would be dependent

3922
02:52:49.359 --> 02:52:54.319
on uh final design uh building

3923
02:52:52.560 --> 02:52:57.200
conditions, program requirements,

3924
02:52:54.319 --> 02:52:58.960
getting contractor bids, etc. So, you

3925
02:52:57.200 --> 02:53:00.880
can see here the largest invest in

3926
02:52:58.960 --> 02:53:03.279
investment is the conversion of Monarch

3927
02:53:00.880 --> 02:53:05.760
PK8 into a dedicated middle school

3928
02:53:03.279 --> 02:53:07.920
estimated somewhere between 3 and 3.5

3929
02:53:05.760 --> 02:53:09.359
million. Cole Whittier or Bear Creek

3930
02:53:07.920 --> 02:53:12.080
improvements would support special

3931
02:53:09.359 --> 02:53:13.600
education programs. Uh Bear Creek, we

3932
02:53:12.080 --> 02:53:15.439
have some additional money in there for

3933
02:53:13.600 --> 02:53:16.880
some facility improvements to uh

3934
02:53:15.439 --> 02:53:19.840
accommodate the combined school

3935
02:53:16.880 --> 02:53:22.319
community. At Community Monasuri's new

3936
02:53:19.840 --> 02:53:25.279
location, we're estimating approximately

3937
02:53:22.319 --> 02:53:28.160
1 and a half to 2.45 million needed to

3938
02:53:25.279 --> 02:53:30.640
create the preschool kindergarten spaces

3939
02:53:28.160 --> 02:53:33.120
uh and a uh preschool kindergarten or a

3940
02:53:30.640 --> 02:53:34.800
preschool playground. Um, we've also

3941
02:53:33.120 --> 02:53:36.640
included some money in for improvements

3942
02:53:34.800 --> 02:53:40.479
at Superior and potential costs for

3943
02:53:36.640 --> 02:53:42.160
preschool at uh Birch if the location is

3944
02:53:40.479 --> 02:53:45.120
ultimately needed. And again, we haven't

3945
02:53:42.160 --> 02:53:47.200
finalized uh preschool locations yet.

3946
02:53:45.120 --> 02:53:50.080
That will be known on October 1st, but

3947
02:53:47.200 --> 02:53:52.960
we have included some funds there. I do

3948
02:53:50.080 --> 02:53:55.920
want to note um because there's been a

3949
02:53:52.960 --> 02:53:58.800
lot of uh comment about spending upwards

3950
02:53:55.920 --> 02:54:00.640
of $10 million, but we need to think

3951
02:53:58.800 --> 02:54:02.720
about our long-term investments. And as

3952
02:54:00.640 --> 02:54:04.640
we look at our capital needs over the

3953
02:54:02.720 --> 02:54:07.680
next 10 years, the district could avoid

3954
02:54:04.640 --> 02:54:10.640
approximately $44.8 million and

3955
02:54:07.680 --> 02:54:12.560
anticipated capital expenditures by no

3956
02:54:10.640 --> 02:54:13.840
longer investing in these buildings in

3957
02:54:12.560 --> 02:54:17.040
the future. And I just want to make sure

3958
02:54:13.840 --> 02:54:19.359
that is known um as we continue to get

3959
02:54:17.040 --> 02:54:22.800
stuck on some of these smaller numbers.

3960
02:54:19.359 --> 02:54:25.279
There is some big decisions to be made

3961
02:54:22.800 --> 02:54:27.200
as we uh bring back if the board

3962
02:54:25.279 --> 02:54:29.279
approves the resolution on the future of

3963
02:54:27.200 --> 02:54:31.120
these buildings and what happens with

3964
02:54:29.279 --> 02:54:34.120
that and that will guide some of those

3965
02:54:31.120 --> 02:54:34.120
expenditures.

3966
02:54:34.160 --> 02:54:40.319
Um we have also budgeted the $5 million

3967
02:54:37.520 --> 02:54:42.240
to provide school transition support

3968
02:54:40.319 --> 02:54:43.920
knowing that we would have expenses.

3969
02:54:42.240 --> 02:54:46.479
This was money that we set aside in

3970
02:54:43.920 --> 02:54:49.200
January to help cover some of the cost

3971
02:54:46.479 --> 02:54:51.359
of moving that transitional support. Um,

3972
02:54:49.200 --> 02:54:53.680
a lot of this is informed by previous

3973
02:54:51.359 --> 02:54:55.520
experiences in the bond projects, etc.

3974
02:54:53.680 --> 02:54:57.600
And there's not a specified plan on how

3975
02:54:55.520 --> 02:54:59.680
these dollars will be spent. They could

3976
02:54:57.600 --> 02:55:02.479
be used for facility modifications. They

3977
02:54:59.680 --> 02:55:04.319
could be used for moving expenses, uh,

3978
02:55:02.479 --> 02:55:07.120
helping fund some of the transitional

3979
02:55:04.319 --> 02:55:10.640
costs. Any funds that are not spent will

3980
02:55:07.120 --> 02:55:12.240
be returned to the general fund.

3981
02:55:10.640 --> 02:55:13.279
So, with that, we'll open it up for

3982
02:55:12.240 --> 02:55:16.479
questions.

3983
02:55:13.279 --> 02:55:20.160
>> Thanks, Rob. Anna, I do have a question

3984
02:55:16.479 --> 02:55:22.000
regarding the um preschool at Birch. If

3985
02:55:20.160 --> 02:55:25.359
you could talk about a little bit more

3986
02:55:22.000 --> 02:55:27.600
about um how many students we would need

3987
02:55:25.359 --> 02:55:30.640
in order to keep that going? And would

3988
02:55:27.600 --> 02:55:35.439
that at all be uh a data point that we

3989
02:55:30.640 --> 02:55:40.640
should be considering for the the demand

3990
02:55:35.439 --> 02:55:42.640
for um keeping Burge open?

3991
02:55:40.640 --> 02:55:46.080
Do you want to speak to preschool and

3992
02:55:42.640 --> 02:55:48.240
data? How do you incorporate that in?

3993
02:55:46.080 --> 02:55:50.720
>> Well, preschool is is a separate

3994
02:55:48.240 --> 02:55:53.520
program. Uh, so it's really a matter of

3995
02:55:50.720 --> 02:55:57.680
of providing the space initially with

3996
02:55:53.520 --> 02:56:00.479
with um within the building and then um

3997
02:55:57.680 --> 02:56:03.359
um and that's managed by the preschool

3998
02:56:00.479 --> 02:56:05.439
um by you know by our preschool people.

3999
02:56:03.359 --> 02:56:07.600
in terms of acceptances into the program

4000
02:56:05.439 --> 02:56:10.160
and uh through the state, you know, the

4001
02:56:07.600 --> 02:56:12.240
state lottery and things like that. Uh

4002
02:56:10.160 --> 02:56:14.319
you know, that's almost like an all open

4003
02:56:12.240 --> 02:56:16.720
enrollment model. It's not like we have

4004
02:56:14.319 --> 02:56:18.399
to take all of the preschool kids in. Uh

4005
02:56:16.720 --> 02:56:19.920
it's it's really a matter of providing

4006
02:56:18.399 --> 02:56:21.600
that space.

4007
02:56:19.920 --> 02:56:23.359
I would just add to that that as we're

4008
02:56:21.600 --> 02:56:25.120
thinking about preschool in that in that

4009
02:56:23.359 --> 02:56:27.760
area of Broomfield, we're thinking about

4010
02:56:25.120 --> 02:56:28.960
what we currently have, how filled those

4011
02:56:27.760 --> 02:56:30.640
classrooms are, and then we have

4012
02:56:28.960 --> 02:56:33.040
preschool community liaison who are

4013
02:56:30.640 --> 02:56:34.800
embedded in each area of our community

4014
02:56:33.040 --> 02:56:36.319
who really have a sense of more

4015
02:56:34.800 --> 02:56:38.160
qualitatively like what needs of

4016
02:56:36.319 --> 02:56:40.399
families are and so we're planning

4017
02:56:38.160 --> 02:56:42.720
accordingly.

4018
02:56:40.399 --> 02:56:44.319
And just for the facilities, um could

4019
02:56:42.720 --> 02:56:47.520
you also talk about some of the changes

4020
02:56:44.319 --> 02:56:49.680
that you will need to make um that you

4021
02:56:47.520 --> 02:56:52.560
have made at Birch that will need to be

4022
02:56:49.680 --> 02:56:55.840
made at Cole, particularly around

4023
02:56:52.560 --> 02:56:57.520
asbestous mitigation um mitigation?

4024
02:56:55.840 --> 02:56:59.200
>> Yeah, we'll if you don't mind, we'll

4025
02:56:57.520 --> 02:57:01.920
talk about asbestous later in the

4026
02:56:59.200 --> 02:57:03.840
presentation. So, anytime we do building

4027
02:57:01.920 --> 02:57:05.680
renovations, etc., we have to plan

4028
02:57:03.840 --> 02:57:07.279
around asbestous. We have a Hera plan

4029
02:57:05.680 --> 02:57:09.279
that allows us that, but I'll talk more

4030
02:57:07.279 --> 02:57:13.040
about that when we get there,

4031
02:57:09.279 --> 02:57:14.720
>> Jason. and then Anna. I'm sorry, Deian.

4032
02:57:13.040 --> 02:57:15.840
>> Yeah, thanks. Um Michelle, I'm glad

4033
02:57:14.720 --> 02:57:18.479
you're able to join. I had a few

4034
02:57:15.840 --> 02:57:20.160
questions related to special ed. Um and

4035
02:57:18.479 --> 02:57:21.840
I'm, you know, it looks like there's

4036
02:57:20.160 --> 02:57:24.640
three programs we're moving that will

4037
02:57:21.840 --> 02:57:28.319
require new facility modifications or

4038
02:57:24.640 --> 02:57:30.240
special needs programs. Um I I'd really

4039
02:57:28.319 --> 02:57:32.640
like to understand uh you know, there's

4040
02:57:30.240 --> 02:57:34.399
a lot of concern folks have raised about

4041
02:57:32.640 --> 02:57:36.399
the current facilities and being you

4042
02:57:34.399 --> 02:57:38.319
know, those are kind of ideal and better

4043
02:57:36.399 --> 02:57:40.479
and smaller for uh special needs

4044
02:57:38.319 --> 02:57:42.160
students. And so I'd love to be able to

4045
02:57:40.479 --> 02:57:43.760
kind of translate those dollar amounts

4046
02:57:42.160 --> 02:57:44.880
to what this is going to look like at a

4047
02:57:43.760 --> 02:57:47.920
school like if we're talking about

4048
02:57:44.880 --> 02:57:50.240
building a new special needs program. Uh

4049
02:57:47.920 --> 02:57:53.279
what is what is involved? Are you

4050
02:57:50.240 --> 02:57:56.000
confident that these new facilities are

4051
02:57:53.279 --> 02:57:58.720
able to be able to serve the kids in the

4052
02:57:56.000 --> 02:58:00.960
same way that uh there won't be you know

4053
02:57:58.720 --> 02:58:02.880
we we talked about kind of larger

4054
02:58:00.960 --> 02:58:05.040
schools but I think there's real concern

4055
02:58:02.880 --> 02:58:06.800
and maybe understandably so about the

4056
02:58:05.040 --> 02:58:08.479
ability of the new schools to be able to

4057
02:58:06.800 --> 02:58:09.680
serve these kids. So, I really want to

4058
02:58:08.479 --> 02:58:11.120
get a sense of, you know, not just

4059
02:58:09.680 --> 02:58:13.760
dollar amounts, but what this looks like

4060
02:58:11.120 --> 02:58:15.200
in terms of um, you know, what needs to

4061
02:58:13.760 --> 02:58:16.720
be done, what kind of I think maybe

4062
02:58:15.200 --> 02:58:18.479
Glenn or someone mentioned a few of

4063
02:58:16.720 --> 02:58:21.120
these things, but I'd really like to

4064
02:58:18.479 --> 02:58:24.240
talk about that transition if possible.

4065
02:58:21.120 --> 02:58:26.479
>> Um, we do have like slide 37 for that.

4066
02:58:24.240 --> 02:58:28.560
So, I don't want to get too far ahead of

4067
02:58:26.479 --> 02:58:31.680
the presentation.

4068
02:58:28.560 --> 02:58:33.520
um maybe the facility budget spec or the

4069
02:58:31.680 --> 02:58:35.840
budget specific component of that but

4070
02:58:33.520 --> 02:58:37.359
then the the impact to student

4071
02:58:35.840 --> 02:58:38.880
experience I think we are talking about

4072
02:58:37.359 --> 02:58:39.439
coming up so I'm just trying to be

4073
02:58:38.880 --> 02:58:40.800
mindful of

4074
02:58:39.439 --> 02:58:42.399
>> I can wait yeah whatever I just wanted

4075
02:58:40.800 --> 02:58:43.920
to um pan that

4076
02:58:42.399 --> 02:58:47.760
>> and I yeah just also trying to be

4077
02:58:43.920 --> 02:58:49.680
mindful of we've got 60some slides um uh

4078
02:58:47.760 --> 02:58:52.000
so I know it's taking a while to get to

4079
02:58:49.680 --> 02:58:57.359
all of our best questions um so let's

4080
02:58:52.000 --> 02:59:00.720
hold on that one Deian and then Alex,

4081
02:58:57.359 --> 02:59:03.600
>> let's see. I think that um the the slide

4082
02:59:00.720 --> 02:59:06.800
that's called facility modifications

4083
02:59:03.600 --> 02:59:10.000
number 30

4084
02:59:06.800 --> 02:59:12.479
doesn't include any improvements

4085
02:59:10.000 --> 02:59:17.840
for Cole Creek.

4086
02:59:12.479 --> 02:59:21.520
It doesn't um have improvements for

4087
02:59:17.840 --> 02:59:23.760
um Heatherwood.

4088
02:59:21.520 --> 02:59:25.760
So the receiving schools of the Douglas

4089
02:59:23.760 --> 02:59:26.960
students are not getting improvements

4090
02:59:25.760 --> 02:59:27.279
according to that chart.

4091
02:59:26.960 --> 02:59:28.720
>> Yeah.

4092
02:59:27.279 --> 02:59:30.000
>> Hey, I need to ask the audience to kind

4093
02:59:28.720 --> 02:59:32.080
of quiet down. It's impacting the

4094
02:59:30.000 --> 02:59:33.600
ability of our board members to hear and

4095
02:59:32.080 --> 02:59:35.359
because we will be the one making the

4096
02:59:33.600 --> 02:59:36.960
decision on this next week. It really is

4097
02:59:35.359 --> 02:59:38.160
important for us to understand the

4098
02:59:36.960 --> 02:59:39.439
answers to the questions that are being

4099
02:59:38.160 --> 02:59:42.560
asked and the questions that are being

4100
02:59:39.439 --> 02:59:44.880
asked themselves. So please um quiet

4101
02:59:42.560 --> 02:59:47.120
down in the audience.

4102
02:59:44.880 --> 02:59:49.200
>> So uh Cole Creek, we don't have any

4103
02:59:47.120 --> 02:59:51.279
improvements slated at Cole Creek. We

4104
02:59:49.200 --> 02:59:53.200
don't believe there are any needed. Um,

4105
02:59:51.279 --> 02:59:55.920
and then at Heatherwood, as a reminder,

4106
02:59:53.200 --> 02:59:57.760
Heatherwood is a phase four project and

4107
02:59:55.920 --> 02:59:59.120
already had work planned at Heatherwood.

4108
02:59:57.760 --> 03:00:00.880
So, we'll be able to accommodate some of

4109
02:59:59.120 --> 03:00:02.880
the special education modifications

4110
03:00:00.880 --> 03:00:05.200
within the phase 4 work that's already

4111
03:00:02.880 --> 03:00:07.040
planned out there.

4112
03:00:05.200 --> 03:00:10.080
>> Is there any thought about making

4113
03:00:07.040 --> 03:00:13.840
Heatherwood not such an open plan

4114
03:00:10.080 --> 03:00:17.040
school? Uh there has been thoughts for

4115
03:00:13.840 --> 03:00:20.479
years on uh changing the layout of some

4116
03:00:17.040 --> 03:00:22.880
of these buildings and um due to fire

4117
03:00:20.479 --> 03:00:24.880
ratings of the building uh and other

4118
03:00:22.880 --> 03:00:28.080
things it really is not possible or

4119
03:00:24.880 --> 03:00:30.800
feasible to turn that into a typical

4120
03:00:28.080 --> 03:00:32.319
classroom setting. So we have I would

4121
03:00:30.800 --> 03:00:35.359
say the district has studied that since

4122
03:00:32.319 --> 03:00:38.240
the early 2000s at a lot of these places

4123
03:00:35.359 --> 03:00:40.319
um and fire ratings etc. of wall

4124
03:00:38.240 --> 03:00:41.520
assemblies, roof assemblies, etc. come

4125
03:00:40.319 --> 03:00:44.800
into play. I

4126
03:00:41.520 --> 03:00:47.680
>> I would say that I've spent some time at

4127
03:00:44.800 --> 03:00:50.160
Eisenhower, at Heatherwood, um and and

4128
03:00:47.680 --> 03:00:53.920
the district um has taken some measures

4129
03:00:50.160 --> 03:00:56.960
to ensure that it's less than the open

4130
03:00:53.920 --> 03:00:58.479
concept that was 80s prevalent. And I do

4131
03:00:56.960 --> 03:01:01.200
think that there's lessons to be learned

4132
03:00:58.479 --> 03:01:03.760
as a district when you when you build

4133
03:01:01.200 --> 03:01:07.120
facilities around a certain type of

4134
03:01:03.760 --> 03:01:09.439
philosophy, right? then and these are 50

4135
03:01:07.120 --> 03:01:12.160
to 75 year assets and the philosophy

4136
03:01:09.439 --> 03:01:15.520
changes I think that it can propose some

4137
03:01:12.160 --> 03:01:17.200
challenge. Um uh that being said uh you

4138
03:01:15.520 --> 03:01:20.560
know as we even think about Heather what

4139
03:01:17.200 --> 03:01:23.680
do we think about Eisenhower um uh you

4140
03:01:20.560 --> 03:01:26.080
know these these are not um if we if we

4141
03:01:23.680 --> 03:01:27.760
project what the amount of students will

4142
03:01:26.080 --> 03:01:29.840
be in those schools they're not going to

4143
03:01:27.760 --> 03:01:31.840
be at full capacity still have lots of

4144
03:01:29.840 --> 03:01:35.600
capacity and they'll have lots of space

4145
03:01:31.840 --> 03:01:37.760
in those buildings uh for growth um you

4146
03:01:35.600 --> 03:01:39.520
know any you know that that would be a

4147
03:01:37.760 --> 03:01:42.319
consideration for the board in a future

4148
03:01:39.520 --> 03:01:44.160
bond if if it was the desire of of the

4149
03:01:42.319 --> 03:01:46.800
board to say, "Okay, these we really

4150
03:01:44.160 --> 03:01:50.240
want to rectify these schools that um

4151
03:01:46.800 --> 03:01:52.319
that that have this open um concept." Uh

4152
03:01:50.240 --> 03:01:54.800
because I think that the investments,

4153
03:01:52.319 --> 03:01:58.160
Rob, to your point, uh it's not where

4154
03:01:54.800 --> 03:01:59.680
it's it's there's a cost associated that

4155
03:01:58.160 --> 03:02:02.160
certain point it may it makes sense to

4156
03:01:59.680 --> 03:02:03.439
tear it down and build new. Is is that

4157
03:02:02.160 --> 03:02:06.640
that's that's correct? Right.

4158
03:02:03.439 --> 03:02:09.279
>> That is a correct statement. Yes.

4159
03:02:06.640 --> 03:02:13.439
I'm worried because I heard uh from some

4160
03:02:09.279 --> 03:02:16.240
of the parents who have um students that

4161
03:02:13.439 --> 03:02:18.800
need intensive learning and they are

4162
03:02:16.240 --> 03:02:21.359
will refuse to go to Heatherwood because

4163
03:02:18.800 --> 03:02:23.840
the kids it's too open and it's going to

4164
03:02:21.359 --> 03:02:26.640
be too confusing for their particular

4165
03:02:23.840 --> 03:02:29.279
learner. So I feel like the move to

4166
03:02:26.640 --> 03:02:32.960
Heatherwood is going to cause um

4167
03:02:29.279 --> 03:02:34.960
inequality for our special ed students.

4168
03:02:32.960 --> 03:02:36.319
>> I we look forward to answering that

4169
03:02:34.960 --> 03:02:38.960
question. We do not believe that to be

4170
03:02:36.319 --> 03:02:40.000
the case.

4171
03:02:38.960 --> 03:02:42.080
>> Alex,

4172
03:02:40.000 --> 03:02:46.160
>> thank you. Um,

4173
03:02:42.080 --> 03:02:48.640
uh, for the 7.5 or $10 million of the

4174
03:02:46.160 --> 03:02:52.160
modifications, what would the time frame

4175
03:02:48.640 --> 03:02:54.160
be for, uh, getting those done? That

4176
03:02:52.160 --> 03:02:56.160
work would be completed this summer. So,

4177
03:02:54.160 --> 03:02:58.399
if the board approves the resolution, we

4178
03:02:56.160 --> 03:03:00.160
would begin immediately with design,

4179
03:02:58.399 --> 03:03:03.120
getting architects, contractors on

4180
03:03:00.160 --> 03:03:05.520
board, uh, getting design underway,

4181
03:03:03.120 --> 03:03:08.399
permitting, etc. to be ready uh through

4182
03:03:05.520 --> 03:03:08.960
the summer uh for the start of the 2728

4183
03:03:08.399 --> 03:03:12.160
school year.

4184
03:03:08.960 --> 03:03:14.240
>> Great. So they wouldn't be these when

4185
03:03:12.160 --> 03:03:15.680
when they have their new enrollments,

4186
03:03:14.240 --> 03:03:16.240
these would be in place.

4187
03:03:15.680 --> 03:03:19.240
>> That's right.

4188
03:03:16.240 --> 03:03:19.240
>> Okay.

4189
03:03:19.600 --> 03:03:23.840
>> Piggyback on that. I mean all of our

4190
03:03:21.600 --> 03:03:26.399
bomb projects have a a specific kind of

4191
03:03:23.840 --> 03:03:29.200
cadence that they go through including

4192
03:03:26.399 --> 03:03:31.680
seabach oversight, board approval. My

4193
03:03:29.200 --> 03:03:34.640
expectation is I I mean these are as you

4194
03:03:31.680 --> 03:03:37.760
noted these are estimates there are

4195
03:03:34.640 --> 03:03:39.680
projections based on you know the

4196
03:03:37.760 --> 03:03:42.960
potential for this for the resilient

4197
03:03:39.680 --> 03:03:46.240
schools proposal to be approved. Um can

4198
03:03:42.960 --> 03:03:49.200
you speak a little bit to what that

4199
03:03:46.240 --> 03:03:50.479
looks like that process between like my

4200
03:03:49.200 --> 03:03:52.000
assumption is this isn't just a

4201
03:03:50.479 --> 03:03:54.000
guarantee there is sort of those checks

4202
03:03:52.000 --> 03:03:55.600
and balances and if you could explain

4203
03:03:54.000 --> 03:03:58.160
that as to the board members and our

4204
03:03:55.600 --> 03:04:00.160
community as well. No, we I mean we have

4205
03:03:58.160 --> 03:04:01.920
to engage architects in a lot of these

4206
03:04:00.160 --> 03:04:03.439
uh some of these projects are phase four

4207
03:04:01.920 --> 03:04:05.200
projects. So we already have architects

4208
03:04:03.439 --> 03:04:08.240
on board when we delayed some of these

4209
03:04:05.200 --> 03:04:10.560
projects. So going through a design

4210
03:04:08.240 --> 03:04:12.160
advisory team meetings etc to figure out

4211
03:04:10.560 --> 03:04:13.680
what work needs to be done. There's

4212
03:04:12.160 --> 03:04:16.720
different levels of design, there's

4213
03:04:13.680 --> 03:04:18.479
design development, there's uh uh

4214
03:04:16.720 --> 03:04:20.319
construction drawings that have to be

4215
03:04:18.479 --> 03:04:22.000
completed and a certain point at design

4216
03:04:20.319 --> 03:04:24.240
development, we get bids from our

4217
03:04:22.000 --> 03:04:26.479
contractors that tells us where we're

4218
03:04:24.240 --> 03:04:30.479
at. Usually at that time is when we are

4219
03:04:26.479 --> 03:04:32.880
bringing budgets to not only Seabach for

4220
03:04:30.479 --> 03:04:34.640
review and then if if SEO supports it

4221
03:04:32.880 --> 03:04:37.200
then we would bring it to the board for

4222
03:04:34.640 --> 03:04:39.920
approval. So we go through that process

4223
03:04:37.200 --> 03:04:41.600
with design at uh construction drawings

4224
03:04:39.920 --> 03:04:44.000
we get something we call the guaranteed

4225
03:04:41.600 --> 03:04:45.439
maximum price. Guaranteed maximum price

4226
03:04:44.000 --> 03:04:46.720
comes to the board. If it's over a

4227
03:04:45.439 --> 03:04:49.520
certain threshold, the board would

4228
03:04:46.720 --> 03:04:51.120
approve that contract after the after

4229
03:04:49.520 --> 03:04:53.439
which you've already approved the

4230
03:04:51.120 --> 03:04:55.680
funding for that and then we go through

4231
03:04:53.439 --> 03:04:57.600
procurement getting materials uh

4232
03:04:55.680 --> 03:05:00.399
equipment etc for whatever is needed for

4233
03:04:57.600 --> 03:05:04.880
the project. Uh the the big lag here in

4234
03:05:00.399 --> 03:05:07.600
the um reason for the expedited timeline

4235
03:05:04.880 --> 03:05:10.319
for some of this is is permitting can

4236
03:05:07.600 --> 03:05:14.399
take up to 12 to to 14 weeks in some

4237
03:05:10.319 --> 03:05:16.960
occasions with CDPHE and the state. Um,

4238
03:05:14.399 --> 03:05:19.520
so that is important for us to

4239
03:05:16.960 --> 03:05:21.120
understand and to plan around. So we've

4240
03:05:19.520 --> 03:05:22.880
got to get through that design process,

4241
03:05:21.120 --> 03:05:25.200
get a guaranteed maximum price, get

4242
03:05:22.880 --> 03:05:26.800
drawing submitted for permitting to

4243
03:05:25.200 --> 03:05:28.240
allow us to be successful over the

4244
03:05:26.800 --> 03:05:29.760
summer months. And again, we have a

4245
03:05:28.240 --> 03:05:31.600
proven track record to be able to do

4246
03:05:29.760 --> 03:05:33.920
this work over the summer. I think last

4247
03:05:31.600 --> 03:05:35.600
summer, uh, I don't remember quite the

4248
03:05:33.920 --> 03:05:38.479
numbers, but somewhere around that $60

4249
03:05:35.600 --> 03:05:41.279
million, I believe, uh, over 11week time

4250
03:05:38.479 --> 03:05:44.640
frame. Um, and we have been very

4251
03:05:41.279 --> 03:05:47.920
successful over the 2014 bond, the 2022

4252
03:05:44.640 --> 03:05:48.960
bond and proving that success. So, um, I

4253
03:05:47.920 --> 03:05:50.160
don't know if that answers your

4254
03:05:48.960 --> 03:05:52.240
question, but I just wanted to give you

4255
03:05:50.160 --> 03:05:54.319
a level of detail there that we do

4256
03:05:52.240 --> 03:05:57.040
understand the commitment it takes in

4257
03:05:54.319 --> 03:05:59.760
order to hit the 2728 school year.

4258
03:05:57.040 --> 03:06:03.040
>> And then I have a follow-up question um,

4259
03:05:59.760 --> 03:06:05.040
a little bit to a point that board

4260
03:06:03.040 --> 03:06:08.080
member Tamu Auding brought up earlier.

4261
03:06:05.040 --> 03:06:09.760
you know, this BBSD taxpayers have been

4262
03:06:08.080 --> 03:06:12.479
exceedingly generous over the years in

4263
03:06:09.760 --> 03:06:14.160
passing bonds and in passing mills and

4264
03:06:12.479 --> 03:06:16.399
um it helps us provide the type of

4265
03:06:14.160 --> 03:06:18.000
educational experiences our students

4266
03:06:16.399 --> 03:06:20.160
deserve.

4267
03:06:18.000 --> 03:06:22.240
Uh and there has been a strong community

4268
03:06:20.160 --> 03:06:24.960
sensitivity to, you know, who is

4269
03:06:22.240 --> 03:06:26.560
benefiting from those tax dollars. And I

4270
03:06:24.960 --> 03:06:29.760
would say that even when this board

4271
03:06:26.560 --> 03:06:31.920
approved the the um commuter preference,

4272
03:06:29.760 --> 03:06:33.760
there was some push back saying, well,

4273
03:06:31.920 --> 03:06:36.160
oh, out of district students have always

4274
03:06:33.760 --> 03:06:38.720
received the lowest priority because

4275
03:06:36.160 --> 03:06:42.000
they do not pay taxes within the bounds

4276
03:06:38.720 --> 03:06:43.120
of with the same tax rates as other

4277
03:06:42.000 --> 03:06:45.520
people that live within the boundaries

4278
03:06:43.120 --> 03:06:48.880
of BBSD do. And so there was some push

4279
03:06:45.520 --> 03:06:51.279
back here. And so I wonder if Bill could

4280
03:06:48.880 --> 03:06:53.680
speak to

4281
03:06:51.279 --> 03:06:57.120
the per pupil

4282
03:06:53.680 --> 03:06:59.680
the um Anna had asked the question, do

4283
03:06:57.120 --> 03:07:01.359
we receive the same amount of money per

4284
03:06:59.680 --> 03:07:05.520
pupil from a student that's enrolling

4285
03:07:01.359 --> 03:07:08.640
from Adams or St. Vin or Jeffco to BVSD

4286
03:07:05.520 --> 03:07:12.120
that we receive from BVSD? And is there

4287
03:07:08.640 --> 03:07:12.120
a difference there?

4288
03:07:15.279 --> 03:07:23.760
The uh school finance act um calculates

4289
03:07:20.080 --> 03:07:28.319
uh or is uh agnostic to where the

4290
03:07:23.760 --> 03:07:31.279
student lives. Uh it is based on the

4291
03:07:28.319 --> 03:07:34.560
district uh enrollment

4292
03:07:31.279 --> 03:07:37.439
um geographic um the student

4293
03:07:34.560 --> 03:07:39.600
demographics. So it's it's not the

4294
03:07:37.439 --> 03:07:43.439
location where the student lives if

4295
03:07:39.600 --> 03:07:47.520
they're moving between districts. Um

4296
03:07:43.439 --> 03:07:53.600
the source of the funding

4297
03:07:47.520 --> 03:07:57.040
uh depends on where you live. So in

4298
03:07:53.600 --> 03:07:58.880
Boulder, we're

4299
03:07:57.040 --> 03:08:02.880
85ish%

4300
03:07:58.880 --> 03:08:06.080
locally funded. So, uh those local

4301
03:08:02.880 --> 03:08:09.520
property taxes from uh residential and

4302
03:08:06.080 --> 03:08:14.000
non-residential uh properties uh are

4303
03:08:09.520 --> 03:08:17.840
supporting the majority of the cost. Um

4304
03:08:14.000 --> 03:08:22.080
the the marginal change for one student

4305
03:08:17.840 --> 03:08:26.479
up or one student down is not going to

4306
03:08:22.080 --> 03:08:30.560
affect anybody's local property tax. Um

4307
03:08:26.479 --> 03:08:35.040
we would uh that that difference between

4308
03:08:30.560 --> 03:08:38.319
being uh fully locally funded and uh um

4309
03:08:35.040 --> 03:08:44.800
the split that we have now um is that

4310
03:08:38.319 --> 03:08:48.160
sort of margin of error where the the

4311
03:08:44.800 --> 03:08:51.760
property taxpayers in Boulder Valley uh

4312
03:08:48.160 --> 03:08:54.800
could experience higher property taxes

4313
03:08:51.760 --> 03:08:58.080
uh with declining student enrollment

4314
03:08:54.800 --> 03:09:01.840
just be as that percentage of local

4315
03:08:58.080 --> 03:09:04.160
share changes. So, no, the amount that

4316
03:09:01.840 --> 03:09:07.200
the school finance act provides per

4317
03:09:04.160 --> 03:09:10.560
pupil uh is not different based on where

4318
03:09:07.200 --> 03:09:12.399
you live uh in u

4319
03:09:10.560 --> 03:09:15.279
it's a little different if you're like

4320
03:09:12.399 --> 03:09:18.240
in a really small district. Um but

4321
03:09:15.279 --> 03:09:21.920
generally speaking in the front range um

4322
03:09:18.240 --> 03:09:24.560
it's the really the mix of of uh local

4323
03:09:21.920 --> 03:09:29.359
and state share for that school finance

4324
03:09:24.560 --> 03:09:34.000
act which won't move uh the the needle

4325
03:09:29.359 --> 03:09:36.640
on the handful of students that we have.

4326
03:09:34.000 --> 03:09:40.319
Bill, talk about mill levy overrides and

4327
03:09:36.640 --> 03:09:42.960
and that impact because I think that was

4328
03:09:40.319 --> 03:09:45.840
>> Can I ask that the slide about local

4329
03:09:42.960 --> 03:09:47.760
versus state share is up there? It's in

4330
03:09:45.840 --> 03:09:51.040
the appendix and I asked specifically

4331
03:09:47.760 --> 03:09:53.760
for it to be included because I get it,

4332
03:09:51.040 --> 03:09:58.560
but only because you've only told me 70

4333
03:09:53.760 --> 03:10:00.479
times how it works, right? And and

4334
03:09:58.560 --> 03:10:02.399
>> Jason's starting to get it because he

4335
03:10:00.479 --> 03:10:05.600
sits on a committee, right? like we're

4336
03:10:02.399 --> 03:10:09.120
we we're we get it. But I think it's a

4337
03:10:05.600 --> 03:10:11.279
really really important piece here. Um

4338
03:10:09.120 --> 03:10:13.680
and when I submitted my questions ahead

4339
03:10:11.279 --> 03:10:16.960
of time to staff, I asked that this be

4340
03:10:13.680 --> 03:10:19.600
included because there it is, Bill. It's

4341
03:10:16.960 --> 03:10:22.000
our great slide with the the buckets.

4342
03:10:19.600 --> 03:10:23.840
Um, I think that this is important

4343
03:10:22.000 --> 03:10:27.920
because I've had questions from the

4344
03:10:23.840 --> 03:10:30.880
community about property taxes and

4345
03:10:27.920 --> 03:10:34.000
um why we aren't more wellunded and why

4346
03:10:30.880 --> 03:10:37.359
we haven't done enough and this is what

4347
03:10:34.000 --> 03:10:40.160
explains it.

4348
03:10:37.359 --> 03:10:42.080
>> Primer, can you give us a primer, Bill,

4349
03:10:40.160 --> 03:10:43.279
and then come back to mill levy

4350
03:10:42.080 --> 03:10:44.399
overrides because there is some

4351
03:10:43.279 --> 03:10:47.840
difference there.

4352
03:10:44.399 --> 03:10:49.439
>> Yes. Um

4353
03:10:47.840 --> 03:10:54.960
so

4354
03:10:49.439 --> 03:10:56.720
this graphic uh is intended to uh

4355
03:10:54.960 --> 03:10:59.120
illustrate

4356
03:10:56.720 --> 03:11:01.359
how

4357
03:10:59.120 --> 03:11:02.880
the state's

4358
03:11:01.359 --> 03:11:06.479
interaction

4359
03:11:02.880 --> 03:11:08.240
with the school finance act and state

4360
03:11:06.479 --> 03:11:13.040
budgets

4361
03:11:08.240 --> 03:11:18.319
uh uh work. So total program funding

4362
03:11:13.040 --> 03:11:21.680
which is the bucket um is made up of the

4363
03:11:18.319 --> 03:11:23.840
local share and the state um

4364
03:11:21.680 --> 03:11:27.359
equalization

4365
03:11:23.840 --> 03:11:32.160
with the intent being the school finance

4366
03:11:27.359 --> 03:11:36.319
act identifies the amount per pupil that

4367
03:11:32.160 --> 03:11:40.080
uh a district receives and the mix of

4368
03:11:36.319 --> 03:11:41.120
local property tax versus uh the state

4369
03:11:40.080 --> 03:11:44.399
share.

4370
03:11:41.120 --> 03:11:46.800
uh is different uh all over the state.

4371
03:11:44.399 --> 03:11:51.040
Uh down in the St. Louis Valley with

4372
03:11:46.800 --> 03:11:54.000
very low property values, uh that looks

4373
03:11:51.040 --> 03:12:00.479
a lot different than in Boulder Valley

4374
03:11:54.000 --> 03:12:05.600
or, uh Aspen that's 100% locally funded.

4375
03:12:00.479 --> 03:12:08.160
So, uh, as property values increase,

4376
03:12:05.600 --> 03:12:10.720
that blue portion of the total program

4377
03:12:08.160 --> 03:12:14.399
budget grows,

4378
03:12:10.720 --> 03:12:16.080
even as enrollments decline statewide,

4379
03:12:14.399 --> 03:12:21.120
right? So, enrollments declining

4380
03:12:16.080 --> 03:12:26.240
statewide. Uh so the portion proportion

4381
03:12:21.120 --> 03:12:30.240
of the total program funding is funded

4382
03:12:26.240 --> 03:12:33.439
greater from uh local property taxes. Uh

4383
03:12:30.240 --> 03:12:38.000
that is partially how the state was able

4384
03:12:33.439 --> 03:12:41.439
to um uh backfill the negative factor.

4385
03:12:38.000 --> 03:12:44.560
That is partially how uh the new school

4386
03:12:41.439 --> 03:12:48.000
finance act is being implemented uh is

4387
03:12:44.560 --> 03:12:50.399
through that growth of uh property

4388
03:12:48.000 --> 03:12:53.399
values uh that uh everybody has

4389
03:12:50.399 --> 03:12:53.399
experienced.

4390
03:12:55.040 --> 03:12:59.120
So we'll come back to the if that gets

4391
03:12:58.640 --> 03:13:04.960
there.

4392
03:12:59.120 --> 03:13:10.319
>> No, I I get it. I just um I think that

4393
03:13:04.960 --> 03:13:13.279
I continue to get questions on this um

4394
03:13:10.319 --> 03:13:16.520
and why can't we just find more money

4395
03:13:13.279 --> 03:13:16.520
and it's

4396
03:13:16.560 --> 03:13:22.800
what we have to come to terms with

4397
03:13:20.080 --> 03:13:26.240
whether we like it or not is our high

4398
03:13:22.800 --> 03:13:29.760
property tax does help people in

4399
03:13:26.240 --> 03:13:36.239
different parts of our state.

4400
03:13:29.760 --> 03:13:38.880
Um, and we have strong advocacy at state

4401
03:13:36.239 --> 03:13:40.720
legislative levels on trying to do the

4402
03:13:38.880 --> 03:13:45.200
very best for our district. It's not

4403
03:13:40.720 --> 03:13:47.680
that we've been um unaware,

4404
03:13:45.200 --> 03:13:51.120
but Senate Bill 1448

4405
03:13:47.680 --> 03:13:53.040
has an impact and we spent a lot of time

4406
03:13:51.120 --> 03:13:55.200
working through that and we will

4407
03:13:53.040 --> 03:13:56.800
continue to feel impacts. And I don't

4408
03:13:55.200 --> 03:13:59.520
want to bring up averaging because that

4409
03:13:56.800 --> 03:14:05.120
will make everybody's head explode,

4410
03:13:59.520 --> 03:14:07.040
right? But I just I in a in a lot of

4411
03:14:05.120 --> 03:14:10.239
ways I would like to lay to rest that

4412
03:14:07.040 --> 03:14:16.479
somehow we are not trying everything we

4413
03:14:10.239 --> 03:14:19.680
can to get as much funding as we can.

4414
03:14:16.479 --> 03:14:25.520
>> Yeah. the only uh

4415
03:14:19.680 --> 03:14:28.560
uh local uh funding that benefits the

4416
03:14:25.520 --> 03:14:32.000
district. Uh

4417
03:14:28.560 --> 03:14:36.560
not the only um the local property tax

4418
03:14:32.000 --> 03:14:38.880
funding that uh is an increase in

4419
03:14:36.560 --> 03:14:43.520
funding are those local mill levy

4420
03:14:38.880 --> 03:14:48.960
overrides. Uh those are for operating uh

4421
03:14:43.520 --> 03:14:52.160
costs and uh as opposed to um uh general

4422
03:14:48.960 --> 03:14:54.239
obligation bonds and uh those capital

4423
03:14:52.160 --> 03:14:58.000
construction those are a separate mill

4424
03:14:54.239 --> 03:15:01.840
levy. Um but those mill levy overrides

4425
03:14:58.000 --> 03:15:04.479
which are uh capped at 25% of the total

4426
03:15:01.840 --> 03:15:09.040
program we are at the cap we are at the

4427
03:15:04.479 --> 03:15:12.960
maximum. Uh so that

4428
03:15:09.040 --> 03:15:18.160
uh amount of dollars isn't growing uh

4429
03:15:12.960 --> 03:15:22.880
really um in any significant way.

4430
03:15:18.160 --> 03:15:25.840
So that outofd district student is being

4431
03:15:22.880 --> 03:15:30.080
funded at the school finance act per

4432
03:15:25.840 --> 03:15:32.800
pupil amount plus the 25%

4433
03:15:30.080 --> 03:15:36.399
local mill levy override

4434
03:15:32.800 --> 03:15:41.279
uh which is uh borne by the local

4435
03:15:36.399 --> 03:15:45.439
property taxpayers. Um so that benefits

4436
03:15:41.279 --> 03:15:48.319
the whole system. Um you there's

4437
03:15:45.439 --> 03:15:51.439
certainly a debate on whether that

4438
03:15:48.319 --> 03:15:55.200
should be done. It is a structure of the

4439
03:15:51.439 --> 03:15:59.760
the um choice enrollment uh being able

4440
03:15:55.200 --> 03:16:03.439
to go between districts. Um so it's a

4441
03:15:59.760 --> 03:16:05.359
it's a nature of the structure. Um but

4442
03:16:03.439 --> 03:16:07.120
it does come from the local property

4443
03:16:05.359 --> 03:16:10.239
taxpayers when a student comes from out

4444
03:16:07.120 --> 03:16:13.479
of this side of the district.

4445
03:16:10.239 --> 03:16:13.479
>> Thank you.

4446
03:16:14.160 --> 03:16:17.439
Alex.

4447
03:16:15.120 --> 03:16:18.880
>> Yeah, thank you. Um,

4448
03:16:17.439 --> 03:16:21.760
uh, I have both some micro and some

4449
03:16:18.880 --> 03:16:24.080
macroeconomic questions about it. Um, I

4450
03:16:21.760 --> 03:16:27.040
guess one thing, we'll move to a little

4451
03:16:24.080 --> 03:16:30.560
bit more on the MLOS's, but if we're at

4452
03:16:27.040 --> 03:16:32.880
the cap now, um, how much flexibility,

4453
03:16:30.560 --> 03:16:35.520
if any, do we have to change what we

4454
03:16:32.880 --> 03:16:40.200
spend an MLO or a bond on after we've

4455
03:16:35.520 --> 03:16:40.200
had it passed by the voters in Colorado?

4456
03:16:40.319 --> 03:16:45.920
So, uh, bond questions are usually

4457
03:16:43.120 --> 03:16:51.200
fairly specific. Um

4458
03:16:45.920 --> 03:16:54.319
uh there is uh generally some um uh

4459
03:16:51.200 --> 03:16:56.960
language in there that allows some

4460
03:16:54.319 --> 03:17:00.720
flexibility, but for example, the last

4461
03:16:56.960 --> 03:17:03.920
um bond question uh specifically said a

4462
03:17:00.720 --> 03:17:07.600
new school in Erie, which is why we did

4463
03:17:03.920 --> 03:17:10.080
not issue that debt uh in the last round

4464
03:17:07.600 --> 03:17:12.000
because the decision was made to pause

4465
03:17:10.080 --> 03:17:14.160
on building that school in Erie because

4466
03:17:12.000 --> 03:17:16.319
the students weren't showing up.

4467
03:17:14.160 --> 03:17:19.600
Uh

4468
03:17:16.319 --> 03:17:22.640
so um there's a little flexibility but

4469
03:17:19.600 --> 03:17:25.439
not very much. Um you have to go back to

4470
03:17:22.640 --> 03:17:28.319
the voters to say uh can we use those

4471
03:17:25.439 --> 03:17:30.880
dollars to do something different uh if

4472
03:17:28.319 --> 03:17:35.279
you're going to radically uh change the

4473
03:17:30.880 --> 03:17:38.880
direction of it. Um school improvements

4474
03:17:35.279 --> 03:17:40.720
are sort of generic across schools. So

4475
03:17:38.880 --> 03:17:44.160
to the extent that the question doesn't

4476
03:17:40.720 --> 03:17:47.439
say this school gets this modification

4477
03:17:44.160 --> 03:17:50.319
which it the question never does uh this

4478
03:17:47.439 --> 03:17:52.800
school could become some other school uh

4479
03:17:50.319 --> 03:17:54.479
well within the the confines of the

4480
03:17:52.800 --> 03:17:57.439
question.

4481
03:17:54.479 --> 03:17:59.760
And then the second question was

4482
03:17:57.439 --> 03:18:02.080
>> uh I guess with the bonds do we have any

4483
03:17:59.760 --> 03:18:04.239
flexibility with the bonds for like

4484
03:18:02.080 --> 03:18:06.319
reallocating it to operations or could

4485
03:18:04.239 --> 03:18:07.760
we do some shell game so that we use the

4486
03:18:06.319 --> 03:18:09.200
bond money to do for something for

4487
03:18:07.760 --> 03:18:11.359
facilities that was being paid for with

4488
03:18:09.200 --> 03:18:13.840
other money for the same facilities. How

4489
03:18:11.359 --> 03:18:17.439
does that work for supplanting or

4490
03:18:13.840 --> 03:18:20.720
>> Right. So you cannot use um any general

4491
03:18:17.439 --> 03:18:22.640
obligation uh debt for operating costs.

4492
03:18:20.720 --> 03:18:27.439
they're very specific to the capital

4493
03:18:22.640 --> 03:18:30.399
construction plan. Um, so there's that.

4494
03:18:27.439 --> 03:18:33.760
>> And then I I guess another sort of macro

4495
03:18:30.399 --> 03:18:35.840
question. So we have like 2400 kids come

4496
03:18:33.760 --> 03:18:38.399
in through open enrollment and like,00

4497
03:18:35.840 --> 03:18:41.600
go out. So we might get the revenue for

4498
03:18:38.399 --> 03:18:43.920
the 2400 at PO and do the math and

4499
03:18:41.600 --> 03:18:45.840
hopefully the incremental extra cost of

4500
03:18:43.920 --> 03:18:48.560
educating those students is less and we

4501
03:18:45.840 --> 03:18:51.200
that's how we might actually subsidize

4502
03:18:48.560 --> 03:18:54.000
our residents by incoming. What's the

4503
03:18:51.200 --> 03:18:55.760
impact of the 1100 kids that leave or

4504
03:18:54.000 --> 03:19:00.479
does the state sort of tally it up and

4505
03:18:55.760 --> 03:19:04.319
say okay you're net400 here's the money?

4506
03:19:00.479 --> 03:19:08.000
Uh yes, it's a net. The the the

4507
03:19:04.319 --> 03:19:10.000
count is not by

4508
03:19:08.000 --> 03:19:12.239
uh um

4509
03:19:10.000 --> 03:19:14.479
a a plus and minus. It's just the bottom

4510
03:19:12.239 --> 03:19:15.680
line number of whatever your student

4511
03:19:14.479 --> 03:19:18.880
count is.

4512
03:19:15.680 --> 03:19:20.560
>> And then to follow up on that, so uh I

4513
03:19:18.880 --> 03:19:22.640
guess one of the things I remain

4514
03:19:20.560 --> 03:19:24.960
concerned about is always, you know,

4515
03:19:22.640 --> 03:19:27.439
losing enrollment out of district or to

4516
03:19:24.960 --> 03:19:31.120
private schools and stuff. How does a

4517
03:19:27.439 --> 03:19:34.560
decrease in our enrollment affect our

4518
03:19:31.120 --> 03:19:37.279
total bottom line budget? So I know that

4519
03:19:34.560 --> 03:19:39.600
we sort of get you know we have our 85%

4520
03:19:37.279 --> 03:19:42.479
obligation into the finance formula but

4521
03:19:39.600 --> 03:19:45.680
for like what's the mechanism by which

4522
03:19:42.479 --> 03:19:48.239
losing another thousand kids loses us

4523
03:19:45.680 --> 03:19:51.040
money in the finance system.

4524
03:19:48.239 --> 03:19:54.080
>> Uh so it's it's the the school finance

4525
03:19:51.040 --> 03:19:55.760
act. How many pupils do you have? you

4526
03:19:54.080 --> 03:19:57.840
run them through the formula on the per

4527
03:19:55.760 --> 03:20:04.319
pupil funding and it's the dollar

4528
03:19:57.840 --> 03:20:07.840
amount. Uh since 2019, we're down 3700

4529
03:20:04.319 --> 03:20:11.359
uh FTE of student count. That's $44.5

4530
03:20:07.840 --> 03:20:13.520
million. Uh that we

4531
03:20:11.359 --> 03:20:16.800
if all of the students were still here

4532
03:20:13.520 --> 03:20:19.200
that were here in uh 2019, we would have

4533
03:20:16.800 --> 03:20:22.479
$44.5 million more. We'd have more

4534
03:20:19.200 --> 03:20:24.160
teachers. we'd have uh we also still

4535
03:20:22.479 --> 03:20:28.239
have the same number of schools that we

4536
03:20:24.160 --> 03:20:28.960
did in 2019 uh when we had those 3,700

4537
03:20:28.239 --> 03:20:33.279
more students.

4538
03:20:28.960 --> 03:20:35.920
>> Yeah. And then um like I'm struck by uh

4539
03:20:33.279 --> 03:20:38.640
and I I know our community cares greatly

4540
03:20:35.920 --> 03:20:40.880
about equity issues and our ability to

4541
03:20:38.640 --> 03:20:43.520
support all our kids and dedicate at

4542
03:20:40.880 --> 03:20:45.520
least similar resources. Um when our

4543
03:20:43.520 --> 03:20:47.680
schools get small, you know, what

4544
03:20:45.520 --> 03:20:49.439
happens to our unit cost? I look at the

4545
03:20:47.680 --> 03:20:51.680
state, you know, school transparency

4546
03:20:49.439 --> 03:20:56.080
data and I see that flat irons comes in

4547
03:20:51.680 --> 03:20:57.920
at about $26,000 per kid and uh Lewis or

4548
03:20:56.080 --> 03:21:03.200
Lafayette Elementary School comes in at,

4549
03:20:57.920 --> 03:21:05.920
you know, 20. So, as we adjust this our

4550
03:21:03.200 --> 03:21:08.000
plan, how will we be improving the

4551
03:21:05.920 --> 03:21:09.439
equity of the money we spend per kid in

4552
03:21:08.000 --> 03:21:11.760
our elementary school? So, it's not so

4553
03:21:09.439 --> 03:21:16.359
much a function of your zip code for how

4554
03:21:11.760 --> 03:21:16.359
much we might spend on your student.

4555
03:21:19.279 --> 03:21:28.960
I mean the short answer is on a pure

4556
03:21:21.600 --> 03:21:34.000
dollar basis um probably right um the

4557
03:21:28.960 --> 03:21:37.600
the that state um transparency is purely

4558
03:21:34.000 --> 03:21:39.520
dollar-based right it is not referencing

4559
03:21:37.600 --> 03:21:43.680
uh the student needs the programs that

4560
03:21:39.520 --> 03:21:46.080
are there um this I mean it's a

4561
03:21:43.680 --> 03:21:50.319
structure of the size of the school on

4562
03:21:46.080 --> 03:21:53.200
the cost per pupil generally. Um

4563
03:21:50.319 --> 03:21:56.160
but certainly if you're not having to

4564
03:21:53.200 --> 03:21:58.000
put the three and a half to$4 million

4565
03:21:56.160 --> 03:22:00.960
into

4566
03:21:58.000 --> 03:22:03.439
maintaining smaller schools,

4567
03:22:00.960 --> 03:22:05.680
I think it's roughly twothirds of that

4568
03:22:03.439 --> 03:22:07.760
cost is from those sort of fixed

4569
03:22:05.680 --> 03:22:11.680
operational things. You have those

4570
03:22:07.760 --> 03:22:16.000
dollars to reinvest uh elsewhere uh for

4571
03:22:11.680 --> 03:22:20.960
a higher and better use purpose. Um

4572
03:22:16.000 --> 03:22:25.600
the the reason that our uh

4573
03:22:20.960 --> 03:22:27.760
um variable classroom costs are uh only

4574
03:22:25.600 --> 03:22:31.520
a small portion of that, a third of the

4575
03:22:27.760 --> 03:22:34.560
savings is every year during the budget

4576
03:22:31.520 --> 03:22:37.200
cycle we readjust for the students that

4577
03:22:34.560 --> 03:22:40.479
we have. Uh not everywhere does that,

4578
03:22:37.200 --> 03:22:42.160
right? Not every uh district uh will

4579
03:22:40.479 --> 03:22:45.279
adjust

4580
03:22:42.160 --> 03:22:50.640
the teachers in a building down for the

4581
03:22:45.279 --> 03:22:55.120
number of student or up. Um that is um

4582
03:22:50.640 --> 03:22:56.960
it's challenging uh that uh um when we

4583
03:22:55.120 --> 03:22:58.960
hear about it, the board hears about it

4584
03:22:56.960 --> 03:23:02.080
uh every year with you know why are we

4585
03:22:58.960 --> 03:23:03.600
losing uh Miss Smith because she's a

4586
03:23:02.080 --> 03:23:06.160
great teacher but there's fewer

4587
03:23:03.600 --> 03:23:11.439
students. So uh during our budget

4588
03:23:06.160 --> 03:23:13.200
process we uh always adjust down for the

4589
03:23:11.439 --> 03:23:15.120
number of students as we're experiencing

4590
03:23:13.200 --> 03:23:19.279
declining enrollment. We adjust up if

4591
03:23:15.120 --> 03:23:23.120
there are uh a growth in students. Um so

4592
03:23:19.279 --> 03:23:25.920
by doing that we have uh been as

4593
03:23:23.120 --> 03:23:28.399
efficient as possible

4594
03:23:25.920 --> 03:23:31.200
but there's a a point at which you just

4595
03:23:28.399 --> 03:23:35.920
can't be more efficient when you have

4596
03:23:31.200 --> 03:23:37.760
only one class and there's only 15 or 18

4597
03:23:35.920 --> 03:23:40.560
students in that class. You just can't

4598
03:23:37.760 --> 03:23:42.080
be any more efficient.

4599
03:23:40.560 --> 03:23:44.880
>> And one last question. When I look

4600
03:23:42.080 --> 03:23:47.439
around the front range and again I see

4601
03:23:44.880 --> 03:23:49.680
uh I believe we've had a long range

4602
03:23:47.439 --> 03:23:52.319
planning process and we have been acting

4603
03:23:49.680 --> 03:23:54.160
prudently and I as former treasurer I

4604
03:23:52.319 --> 03:23:56.160
believe uh that we're uh we're

4605
03:23:54.160 --> 03:23:58.399
exercising good stewardship of our funds

4606
03:23:56.160 --> 03:24:00.720
and quite responsible from year to year.

4607
03:23:58.399 --> 03:24:02.640
I see districts around Colorado that are

4608
03:24:00.720 --> 03:24:05.439
spending down reserves and not making

4609
03:24:02.640 --> 03:24:07.840
the changes that are necessary. Um, have

4610
03:24:05.439 --> 03:24:10.239
we had to do that or are we avoiding

4611
03:24:07.840 --> 03:24:11.920
that kind of short-term

4612
03:24:10.239 --> 03:24:13.680
uh, you know, put off the pain for later

4613
03:24:11.920 --> 03:24:15.359
stuff very much in the way we run our

4614
03:24:13.680 --> 03:24:16.800
budget? It looks to me from my

4615
03:24:15.359 --> 03:24:19.439
understanding that we've been fairly

4616
03:24:16.800 --> 03:24:21.200
responsible and are not like, you know,

4617
03:24:19.439 --> 03:24:23.840
spending reserves in order to get by and

4618
03:24:21.200 --> 03:24:27.520
punt this down further.

4619
03:24:23.840 --> 03:24:30.000
The um the analogy that I've used u

4620
03:24:27.520 --> 03:24:33.279
multiple times over my 30 years in

4621
03:24:30.000 --> 03:24:36.640
Boulder Valley uh is

4622
03:24:33.279 --> 03:24:39.920
um shock absorbers, right? Are sort of

4623
03:24:36.640 --> 03:24:42.239
the variability in revenues and

4624
03:24:39.920 --> 03:24:44.800
expenditures from year to year. We're

4625
03:24:42.239 --> 03:24:47.279
going to be hopefully

4626
03:24:44.800 --> 03:24:51.600
uh 101

4627
03:24:47.279 --> 03:24:56.160
or two or 3% of revenues and hopefully

4628
03:24:51.600 --> 03:24:59.279
97 98 99% of expenditures because that

4629
03:24:56.160 --> 03:25:01.600
can flip. We have uh shortfalls in

4630
03:24:59.279 --> 03:25:03.680
revenues. Property taxes don't come in.

4631
03:25:01.600 --> 03:25:07.600
We're projecting these, you know, a year

4632
03:25:03.680 --> 03:25:12.239
out. Um, so that's the shock absorber

4633
03:25:07.600 --> 03:25:14.800
that we can uh take a little bit of uh

4634
03:25:12.239 --> 03:25:16.720
hotter weather, drier weather, colder

4635
03:25:14.800 --> 03:25:21.040
weather, snowier weather, like and and

4636
03:25:16.720 --> 03:25:23.520
adjust uh within the year. The reserves

4637
03:25:21.040 --> 03:25:25.200
are those barrels full of water before

4638
03:25:23.520 --> 03:25:27.200
you hit the wall when you're driving

4639
03:25:25.200 --> 03:25:29.279
down the highway. You really don't want

4640
03:25:27.200 --> 03:25:32.000
to run into them. Those are there for

4641
03:25:29.279 --> 03:25:34.399
emergencies. Those are there for crisis

4642
03:25:32.000 --> 03:25:38.239
situations. uh we didn't dip into

4643
03:25:34.399 --> 03:25:39.920
reserves during uh the pandemic largely

4644
03:25:38.239 --> 03:25:42.640
because there was a lot of federal

4645
03:25:39.920 --> 03:25:46.479
resources, but like the reserves are

4646
03:25:42.640 --> 03:25:49.600
there for truly emergency situations

4647
03:25:46.479 --> 03:25:53.920
um that you want to hopefully plan

4648
03:25:49.600 --> 03:25:56.080
around uh the um unknown unknowns or the

4649
03:25:53.920 --> 03:26:00.640
known unknowns I think if we quote

4650
03:25:56.080 --> 03:26:03.040
Donald Rumsfeld. Um, so, uh, reserves,

4651
03:26:00.640 --> 03:26:05.680
you really don't want to spend down. Uh,

4652
03:26:03.040 --> 03:26:07.840
reserves are part of the calculation for

4653
03:26:05.680 --> 03:26:10.960
a district's credit rating, which is

4654
03:26:07.840 --> 03:26:14.479
what you pay, uh, the interest rate on

4655
03:26:10.960 --> 03:26:19.520
your debt. Uh, so if you have uh poor

4656
03:26:14.479 --> 03:26:22.239
reserves uh or um uh not good financial

4657
03:26:19.520 --> 03:26:24.319
stewardship, you'll have a a lower

4658
03:26:22.239 --> 03:26:28.560
credit rating, so you'll pay more on

4659
03:26:24.319 --> 03:26:30.160
your debt. Uh and uh we actually have a

4660
03:26:28.560 --> 03:26:35.279
better credit rating than the state of

4661
03:26:30.160 --> 03:26:39.040
Colorado. Uh so like all of those things

4662
03:26:35.279 --> 03:26:41.680
uh um benefit the taxpayers in the

4663
03:26:39.040 --> 03:26:45.279
district and the district overall from a

4664
03:26:41.680 --> 03:26:48.160
consistency standpoint.

4665
03:26:45.279 --> 03:26:50.560
>> Okay. Board members. Um student exp I

4666
03:26:48.160 --> 03:26:52.160
was anticipating getting through slide

4667
03:26:50.560 --> 03:26:55.200
40 and then asking questions on the

4668
03:26:52.160 --> 03:26:56.880
student experience. I wondered about do

4669
03:26:55.200 --> 03:26:59.920
we need a comfort break before then or

4670
03:26:56.880 --> 03:27:02.479
can we get to the everything before

4671
03:26:59.920 --> 03:27:05.920
transportation discussion before we take

4672
03:27:02.479 --> 03:27:07.520
a comfort break.

4673
03:27:05.920 --> 03:27:08.880
We're going to keep going. So, we're

4674
03:27:07.520 --> 03:27:10.800
going to segue into the student

4675
03:27:08.880 --> 03:27:12.399
experience. There's a few different

4676
03:27:10.800 --> 03:27:14.000
programs we'll discuss. We'll hold off

4677
03:27:12.399 --> 03:27:15.600
questions until right before

4678
03:27:14.000 --> 03:27:17.920
transportation and then ask all those

4679
03:27:15.600 --> 03:27:20.880
questions about school age care and um

4680
03:27:17.920 --> 03:27:23.279
learning environments, preschool, etc. I

4681
03:27:20.880 --> 03:27:25.040
will turn it over to

4682
03:27:23.279 --> 03:27:28.080
Dr. Neil Anderson.

4683
03:27:25.040 --> 03:27:31.439
>> Thank you, President Raj Paul. So

4684
03:27:28.080 --> 03:27:33.760
throughout our approach to the proposal

4685
03:27:31.439 --> 03:27:35.520
we've presented to you, it was built

4686
03:27:33.760 --> 03:27:37.840
around ensuring a student learning

4687
03:27:35.520 --> 03:27:39.920
experience and that was our foundational

4688
03:27:37.840 --> 03:27:42.399
component.

4689
03:27:39.920 --> 03:27:44.399
We've utilized this slide as an anchor

4690
03:27:42.399 --> 03:27:46.080
to the learning experience challenges

4691
03:27:44.399 --> 03:27:47.359
that many of our schools currently face,

4692
03:27:46.080 --> 03:27:49.200
particularly when they operate less than

4693
03:27:47.359 --> 03:27:52.319
200 students. And it's probably the

4694
03:27:49.200 --> 03:27:54.479
second most used slide. If Mr. Price has

4695
03:27:52.319 --> 03:27:57.760
the first most used slide, this is the

4696
03:27:54.479 --> 03:27:59.439
one we have utilized a lot. I'm bringing

4697
03:27:57.760 --> 03:28:02.560
it back because it does provide an

4698
03:27:59.439 --> 03:28:04.080
important anchor for us and it allows to

4699
03:28:02.560 --> 03:28:06.319
kind of talk about some of the

4700
03:28:04.080 --> 03:28:08.080
components that were previously discuss

4701
03:28:06.319 --> 03:28:11.200
discussed as well particularly around

4702
03:28:08.080 --> 03:28:14.080
class size number as it's defined in one

4703
03:28:11.200 --> 03:28:16.960
two three or more rounds and we've

4704
03:28:14.080 --> 03:28:20.479
defined that round at 25 students as

4705
03:28:16.960 --> 03:28:22.560
described before. Um, as we've stated,

4706
03:28:20.479 --> 03:28:25.760
the majority of our schools in BVSD

4707
03:28:22.560 --> 03:28:28.640
operate at two rounds or less. And that

4708
03:28:25.760 --> 03:28:31.520
number of two rounds is set by the BVSD

4709
03:28:28.640 --> 03:28:33.600
negotiated agreement with BVEA. I'll get

4710
03:28:31.520 --> 03:28:36.720
into those numbers. Um, again, you can

4711
03:28:33.600 --> 03:28:39.439
see them on the screen uh above you.

4712
03:28:36.720 --> 03:28:41.840
Throughout my experience as a principal

4713
03:28:39.439 --> 03:28:43.760
here in BBSD and in another school

4714
03:28:41.840 --> 03:28:45.680
district, a network executive director

4715
03:28:43.760 --> 03:28:46.880
here in BBSD, and now in this role, I've

4716
03:28:45.680 --> 03:28:49.520
experienced efficiencies and

4717
03:28:46.880 --> 03:28:52.239
inefficiencies around class sizes and

4718
03:28:49.520 --> 03:28:54.399
the overall perception of capacity. What

4719
03:28:52.239 --> 03:28:56.479
I know to be true is this. One round in

4720
03:28:54.399 --> 03:28:59.200
multi-grade, though incredibly

4721
03:28:56.479 --> 03:29:01.040
efficient, is incredibly hard. Um, it's

4722
03:28:59.200 --> 03:29:04.000
hard on teachers, it's hard on parents.

4723
03:29:01.040 --> 03:29:06.239
Even small two and three round schools

4724
03:29:04.000 --> 03:29:08.479
create challenges for our overarching

4725
03:29:06.239 --> 03:29:10.640
system because of budgetary

4726
03:29:08.479 --> 03:29:12.640
inefficiencies or part-time staff.

4727
03:29:10.640 --> 03:29:15.120
Though they feel and look good from the

4728
03:29:12.640 --> 03:29:18.560
outside and if you're a parent in a

4729
03:29:15.120 --> 03:29:21.359
small class um because um it's a two-

4730
03:29:18.560 --> 03:29:23.040
round school maybe mid- teens low 20s

4731
03:29:21.359 --> 03:29:25.200
that feels great but there are other

4732
03:29:23.040 --> 03:29:28.239
challenges that come with that.

4733
03:29:25.200 --> 03:29:30.160
Additionally, two round schools does not

4734
03:29:28.239 --> 03:29:31.439
necessarily mean that they are the ideal

4735
03:29:30.160 --> 03:29:33.120
number of students based on the

4736
03:29:31.439 --> 03:29:35.359
recommended class size. So, our current

4737
03:29:33.120 --> 03:29:36.560
classroom size maximums per negotiated

4738
03:29:35.359 --> 03:29:38.960
agreement, as you can see in the blue

4739
03:29:36.560 --> 03:29:44.239
box up there, are K126,

4740
03:29:38.960 --> 03:29:47.439
23 29, and 4531 students. However, these

4741
03:29:44.239 --> 03:29:49.040
are ideal numbers in an ideal world. We

4742
03:29:47.439 --> 03:29:51.600
have schools that are mathematically at

4743
03:29:49.040 --> 03:29:53.520
1.8 rounds, 2.9 rounds, and everything

4744
03:29:51.600 --> 03:29:56.800
in between.

4745
03:29:53.520 --> 03:29:59.279
We've had 1.5 round schools. That's

4746
03:29:56.800 --> 03:30:01.359
considered a multi-grade environment.

4747
03:29:59.279 --> 03:30:04.560
And in fact, this year we had identified

4748
03:30:01.359 --> 03:30:06.800
14 multi-grade classrooms across seven

4749
03:30:04.560 --> 03:30:08.640
schools. And if we do not act, it is

4750
03:30:06.800 --> 03:30:12.399
projected that we'd again have at least

4751
03:30:08.640 --> 03:30:14.720
14 multi-grade classrooms and the

4752
03:30:12.399 --> 03:30:16.800
potential of up to 16 or more with the

4753
03:30:14.720 --> 03:30:18.720
other additional potential that some

4754
03:30:16.800 --> 03:30:21.359
schools might experience a couple

4755
03:30:18.720 --> 03:30:23.359
multi-grade classrooms as well depending

4756
03:30:21.359 --> 03:30:25.840
on the how their numbers translate over

4757
03:30:23.359 --> 03:30:28.000
from year to year. The fact is the trend

4758
03:30:25.840 --> 03:30:30.000
for the need for more multi-grade

4759
03:30:28.000 --> 03:30:31.520
classrooms is continue to expand. While

4760
03:30:30.000 --> 03:30:34.319
our proposal would eliminate the need

4761
03:30:31.520 --> 03:30:35.760
for multi-grade classrooms, we have very

4762
03:30:34.319 --> 03:30:37.439
few schools that are currently operating

4763
03:30:35.760 --> 03:30:39.600
at the suggested classroom round

4764
03:30:37.439 --> 03:30:42.560
structure. Most of our schools um see

4765
03:30:39.600 --> 03:30:44.960
classroom sizes ranging from well below

4766
03:30:42.560 --> 03:30:47.439
the suggested class sizes to above and

4767
03:30:44.960 --> 03:30:50.399
that can even vary between schools and

4768
03:30:47.439 --> 03:30:52.000
within the same schools. For example, if

4769
03:30:50.399 --> 03:30:54.640
we currently have a grade level class of

4770
03:30:52.000 --> 03:30:56.720
35, we say that that's too many students

4771
03:30:54.640 --> 03:30:58.880
for one class. And so we break that into

4772
03:30:56.720 --> 03:31:00.560
two sections. So it's seen as two

4773
03:30:58.880 --> 03:31:03.920
teachers. Oh, two rounds, but that's

4774
03:31:00.560 --> 03:31:08.080
actually 17 and 18 students. Likewise,

4775
03:31:03.920 --> 03:31:11.279
we have a class size of 30 or 31. Um, we

4776
03:31:08.080 --> 03:31:13.840
might say that is not too big and so

4777
03:31:11.279 --> 03:31:16.080
we're going to have that to be one class

4778
03:31:13.840 --> 03:31:19.040
um instead of two. This creates some

4779
03:31:16.080 --> 03:31:21.200
significant challenges because our

4780
03:31:19.040 --> 03:31:23.279
parents might be used to well previous

4781
03:31:21.200 --> 03:31:26.720
year I had only 20 students in my class

4782
03:31:23.279 --> 03:31:28.960
and now I have 31 kids in my class or a

4783
03:31:26.720 --> 03:31:31.680
colleague across our network might have

4784
03:31:28.960 --> 03:31:34.399
a friend that um is teaching a class of

4785
03:31:31.680 --> 03:31:36.239
21 but they have 28 or 29 or 30 in their

4786
03:31:34.399 --> 03:31:38.319
class. And so there's that constant

4787
03:31:36.239 --> 03:31:40.319
comparison that happens. And those

4788
03:31:38.319 --> 03:31:41.760
examples illustrate the breadth of

4789
03:31:40.319 --> 03:31:44.720
difference that's found within our

4790
03:31:41.760 --> 03:31:47.120
schools and within sometimes and often

4791
03:31:44.720 --> 03:31:49.840
within the same school itself. In

4792
03:31:47.120 --> 03:31:53.040
summary, our community interprets two

4793
03:31:49.840 --> 03:31:55.760
rounds as two interprets two teachers as

4794
03:31:53.040 --> 03:31:58.960
two full rounds, but our interpretation

4795
03:31:55.760 --> 03:32:00.560
is that two full classes equals two

4796
03:31:58.960 --> 03:32:03.520
rounds. And that's a really important

4797
03:32:00.560 --> 03:32:05.760
distinction. When our class sizes range

4798
03:32:03.520 --> 03:32:07.200
between the mid- teens and low30s, often

4799
03:32:05.760 --> 03:32:09.680
within the same school, we create a

4800
03:32:07.200 --> 03:32:12.000
system that's inefficient due to small

4801
03:32:09.680 --> 03:32:13.920
class sizes while other classes feel

4802
03:32:12.000 --> 03:32:16.160
really full and teachers and parents ask

4803
03:32:13.920 --> 03:32:18.160
for additional teacher, additional FTE,

4804
03:32:16.160 --> 03:32:20.720
additional supports, thus upping our

4805
03:32:18.160 --> 03:32:22.319
overall budgetary components and costs.

4806
03:32:20.720 --> 03:32:24.560
And without predictive and consistent

4807
03:32:22.319 --> 03:32:26.800
class size ranges, we have a system that

4808
03:32:24.560 --> 03:32:29.920
results in budgetary impacts, learning

4809
03:32:26.800 --> 03:32:32.399
impacts, and teacher impacts. This

4810
03:32:29.920 --> 03:32:34.000
proposal, as presented, eliminates the

4811
03:32:32.399 --> 03:32:36.000
one- rounded multi-grade classrooms

4812
03:32:34.000 --> 03:32:37.680
while strengthening our two, three, and

4813
03:32:36.000 --> 03:32:40.319
potentially four round schools. It

4814
03:32:37.680 --> 03:32:41.600
establishes consistent experiences for

4815
03:32:40.319 --> 03:32:44.080
our student, staff, and communities

4816
03:32:41.600 --> 03:32:46.239
across BBSD. Though there might be still

4817
03:32:44.080 --> 03:32:48.080
some variability as students move

4818
03:32:46.239 --> 03:32:50.720
through our system. Our goal is to

4819
03:32:48.080 --> 03:32:52.399
decrease the variability and through the

4820
03:32:50.720 --> 03:32:54.399
reduction of variability in our learning

4821
03:32:52.399 --> 03:32:56.479
environments while establishing a better

4822
03:32:54.399 --> 03:32:58.239
range of predictable class sizes. By

4823
03:32:56.479 --> 03:32:59.920
doing this, we'll provide consistent

4824
03:32:58.239 --> 03:33:02.479
learning environments. I'm going to pass

4825
03:32:59.920 --> 03:33:04.800
it over now to our chief academic

4826
03:33:02.479 --> 03:33:06.640
officer, Dr. Emma Herszog, that will

4827
03:33:04.800 --> 03:33:09.200
talk about the impacts that have

4828
03:33:06.640 --> 03:33:12.319
happened within these unpredictable

4829
03:33:09.200 --> 03:33:14.080
classes and the impact of these sizes

4830
03:33:12.319 --> 03:33:17.080
and rounds within our schools. Thank

4831
03:33:14.080 --> 03:33:17.080
you.

4832
03:33:17.600 --> 03:33:23.120
>> Thank you, Dr. Neil Anderson. Um, the

4833
03:33:20.640 --> 03:33:25.359
number of rounds per grade also impacts

4834
03:33:23.120 --> 03:33:27.279
how we assign art, music, and PE

4835
03:33:25.359 --> 03:33:28.640
teachers, otherwise known as what we

4836
03:33:27.279 --> 03:33:31.279
call our specials teachers at

4837
03:33:28.640 --> 03:33:33.200
elementary. When schools have smaller

4838
03:33:31.279 --> 03:33:34.960
numbers of rounds, there are not enough

4839
03:33:33.200 --> 03:33:36.960
total rounds in the building for a

4840
03:33:34.960 --> 03:33:39.040
special teacher to be full-time in that

4841
03:33:36.960 --> 03:33:40.800
building, and that specials teacher then

4842
03:33:39.040 --> 03:33:43.920
needs to teach in multiple buildings to

4843
03:33:40.800 --> 03:33:46.000
reach their full FTE. The graph on this

4844
03:33:43.920 --> 03:33:48.000
slide paints a picture of the reality of

4845
03:33:46.000 --> 03:33:49.920
travel for our specials teachers. And

4846
03:33:48.000 --> 03:33:53.200
the headings on the graph are defined as

4847
03:33:49.920 --> 03:33:55.439
follows. Traveling teachers are specials

4848
03:33:53.200 --> 03:33:57.520
teachers who work at multiple schools to

4849
03:33:55.439 --> 03:33:59.279
fulfill their assignment.

4850
03:33:57.520 --> 03:34:01.359
Schools with traveling teachers are

4851
03:33:59.279 --> 03:34:03.359
schools that have at least one traveling

4852
03:34:01.359 --> 03:34:06.080
teacher, which impacts scheduling

4853
03:34:03.359 --> 03:34:08.399
flexibility for the whole school.

4854
03:34:06.080 --> 03:34:10.479
Split positions with no home teacher

4855
03:34:08.399 --> 03:34:12.560
means that the that particular specials

4856
03:34:10.479 --> 03:34:14.960
position is filled by multiple traveling

4857
03:34:12.560 --> 03:34:16.800
teachers where none of them spend the

4858
03:34:14.960 --> 03:34:19.040
majority of their time at that school.

4859
03:34:16.800 --> 03:34:21.439
And so for key events like an art show

4860
03:34:19.040 --> 03:34:23.520
or a musical production, there's no main

4861
03:34:21.439 --> 03:34:25.200
or primary specials teacher in that

4862
03:34:23.520 --> 03:34:28.160
building to lead and coordinate the

4863
03:34:25.200 --> 03:34:30.080
event. So you can see the trajectory

4864
03:34:28.160 --> 03:34:31.920
that we're on and where we will continue

4865
03:34:30.080 --> 03:34:33.520
to go if we do nothing versus our

4866
03:34:31.920 --> 03:34:36.479
projection should the resilient schools

4867
03:34:33.520 --> 03:34:38.640
proposal pass. Should we continue on our

4868
03:34:36.479 --> 03:34:40.479
current trajectory, we estimate that we

4869
03:34:38.640 --> 03:34:42.560
will have 40 traveling teachers next

4870
03:34:40.479 --> 03:34:45.279
year versus 18 with the resilient

4871
03:34:42.560 --> 03:34:47.840
schools proposal. Should we continue as

4872
03:34:45.279 --> 03:34:50.479
is, we estimate we will have 29 schools

4873
03:34:47.840 --> 03:34:52.960
with traveling teachers versus 14 with

4874
03:34:50.479 --> 03:34:55.520
resilient schools. And without any

4875
03:34:52.960 --> 03:34:57.520
changes, we anticipate 12 split teacher

4876
03:34:55.520 --> 03:34:59.439
positions for the coming school year

4877
03:34:57.520 --> 03:35:02.080
versus zero with the resilient schools

4878
03:34:59.439 --> 03:35:04.000
proposal. The reality is we are

4879
03:35:02.080 --> 03:35:06.319
increasingly paying our teachers to

4880
03:35:04.000 --> 03:35:07.920
drive and coordinate between buildings,

4881
03:35:06.319 --> 03:35:09.840
not to teach and lead enriching

4882
03:35:07.920 --> 03:35:11.279
experiences for students. And there are

4883
03:35:09.840 --> 03:35:15.120
lots of missed opportunities for

4884
03:35:11.279 --> 03:35:16.560
students that come with that.

4885
03:35:15.120 --> 03:35:18.160
When our specialist teachers are

4886
03:35:16.560 --> 03:35:20.800
assigned to multiple buildings, it makes

4887
03:35:18.160 --> 03:35:23.200
a significant impact. First, it impacts

4888
03:35:20.800 --> 03:35:25.040
efficiency. more of their day is spent

4889
03:35:23.200 --> 03:35:27.200
traveling, setting up and cleaning up

4890
03:35:25.040 --> 03:35:29.279
and navigating administrative tasks like

4891
03:35:27.200 --> 03:35:31.920
emails, schedulings and scheduling and

4892
03:35:29.279 --> 03:35:33.680
procedures at multiple buildings. This

4893
03:35:31.920 --> 03:35:36.239
means that less of their time is spent

4894
03:35:33.680 --> 03:35:38.640
teaching and connecting with kids.

4895
03:35:36.239 --> 03:35:40.319
Second, it impacts continuity. One of

4896
03:35:38.640 --> 03:35:42.000
the amazing things about specials is

4897
03:35:40.319 --> 03:35:44.080
that teachers have the opportunity to

4898
03:35:42.000 --> 03:35:46.160
follow kids for six years throughout

4899
03:35:44.080 --> 03:35:48.880
elementary school and build traditions

4900
03:35:46.160 --> 03:35:50.479
and deeper longitudinal relationships.

4901
03:35:48.880 --> 03:35:52.160
With a lot of traveling teachers,

4902
03:35:50.479 --> 03:35:53.760
students have a different teacher each

4903
03:35:52.160 --> 03:35:55.600
year, and those deep community

4904
03:35:53.760 --> 03:35:58.239
connections and school-based traditions

4905
03:35:55.600 --> 03:36:00.720
are harder to form.

4906
03:35:58.239 --> 03:36:02.479
Third, it impacts flexibility.

4907
03:36:00.720 --> 03:36:04.319
Currently, buildings often plan their

4908
03:36:02.479 --> 03:36:06.239
schedules based on when staff members

4909
03:36:04.319 --> 03:36:08.960
are available rather than what would

4910
03:36:06.239 --> 03:36:11.200
truly work best for the school. This

4911
03:36:08.960 --> 03:36:12.800
impacts master scheduling, but also has

4912
03:36:11.200 --> 03:36:15.520
day-to-day impacts. If there's an

4913
03:36:12.800 --> 03:36:17.520
assembly, a field trip, some type of

4914
03:36:15.520 --> 03:36:19.680
testing, or a delayed start, there's

4915
03:36:17.520 --> 03:36:22.960
just no room to adjust and students lose

4916
03:36:19.680 --> 03:36:25.439
out as a result. Fourth, it impacts

4917
03:36:22.960 --> 03:36:27.200
collaboration. Often, traveling teachers

4918
03:36:25.439 --> 03:36:29.040
do not have any shared planning time

4919
03:36:27.200 --> 03:36:31.120
with either the building staff or others

4920
03:36:29.040 --> 03:36:32.880
who teach the same content at that same

4921
03:36:31.120 --> 03:36:35.120
school. The lack of teacher

4922
03:36:32.880 --> 03:36:37.200
collaboration often leads to disjointed

4923
03:36:35.120 --> 03:36:38.880
student experiences.

4924
03:36:37.200 --> 03:36:40.720
And fifth, it impacts student

4925
03:36:38.880 --> 03:36:43.359
experiences beyond the actual art,

4926
03:36:40.720 --> 03:36:44.800
music, and PE classes. It's much more

4927
03:36:43.359 --> 03:36:47.120
challenging to provide special

4928
03:36:44.800 --> 03:36:49.439
experiences like field trips, concerts,

4929
03:36:47.120 --> 03:36:52.080
intramurals, art shows, field days, or

4930
03:36:49.439 --> 03:36:53.600
clubs. As one example, we have an

4931
03:36:52.080 --> 03:36:55.520
elementary school that used to have an

4932
03:36:53.600 --> 03:36:57.520
afterchool choir, but when the music

4933
03:36:55.520 --> 03:36:59.840
teacher began traveling, she was unable

4934
03:36:57.520 --> 03:37:01.680
to keep that up and so it went away.

4935
03:36:59.840 --> 03:37:03.200
Those types of examples are all over our

4936
03:37:01.680 --> 03:37:05.359
district.

4937
03:37:03.200 --> 03:37:07.439
The question becomes really what are we

4938
03:37:05.359 --> 03:37:09.680
willing to fund and to what degree of

4939
03:37:07.439 --> 03:37:11.439
benefit. We can keep patching things

4940
03:37:09.680 --> 03:37:13.279
together for the next few years. But as

4941
03:37:11.439 --> 03:37:15.439
you can see from the previous slide,

4942
03:37:13.279 --> 03:37:17.040
eventually this will break and our

4943
03:37:15.439 --> 03:37:18.800
system will become similar to having

4944
03:37:17.040 --> 03:37:20.720
adjunct special teachers popping in to

4945
03:37:18.800 --> 03:37:22.880
teach their class versus building a

4946
03:37:20.720 --> 03:37:24.960
longitudinal specials program that fully

4947
03:37:22.880 --> 03:37:27.040
enriches the student experience in all

4948
03:37:24.960 --> 03:37:29.840
the ways we value and have come to

4949
03:37:27.040 --> 03:37:31.359
expect. I'm going to pass it over to our

4950
03:37:29.840 --> 03:37:32.880
executive director of special education,

4951
03:37:31.359 --> 03:37:34.560
Michelle Brener, who will explain some

4952
03:37:32.880 --> 03:37:36.000
of the benefits of the resilient schools

4953
03:37:34.560 --> 03:37:37.600
proposal from the special education

4954
03:37:36.000 --> 03:37:40.160
lens.

4955
03:37:37.600 --> 03:37:42.080
>> Thank Thank you, Dr. Harzog.

4956
03:37:40.160 --> 03:37:44.160
Additionally, our students with IEPs

4957
03:37:42.080 --> 03:37:46.640
will benefit from larger right-sized

4958
03:37:44.160 --> 03:37:49.279
schools in a variety of ways across the

4959
03:37:46.640 --> 03:37:51.920
continuum of services. We anticipate

4960
03:37:49.279 --> 03:37:53.840
benefits both to inclusionary practices

4961
03:37:51.920 --> 03:37:56.239
and for students benefiting from our

4962
03:37:53.840 --> 03:37:58.560
intensive learning centers. Schools with

4963
03:37:56.239 --> 03:38:00.640
larger numbers provide a benefit to

4964
03:37:58.560 --> 03:38:02.880
staffing with increased frequency of

4965
03:38:00.640 --> 03:38:05.600
service providers and resource teachers

4966
03:38:02.880 --> 03:38:07.439
at a building. For example, an

4967
03:38:05.600 --> 03:38:09.920
occupational therapist for a smaller

4968
03:38:07.439 --> 03:38:12.720
school might only be assigned one day a

4969
03:38:09.920 --> 03:38:14.479
week and assigned to multiple buildings.

4970
03:38:12.720 --> 03:38:16.800
They are able to provide the necessary

4971
03:38:14.479 --> 03:38:18.800
services for a student's IEP. However,

4972
03:38:16.800 --> 03:38:21.520
they do not have an opportunity to be

4973
03:38:18.800 --> 03:38:24.000
part of the school culture, collaborate

4974
03:38:21.520 --> 03:38:25.920
with any real frequency, or have

4975
03:38:24.000 --> 03:38:28.640
flexibility to reschedule if a student

4976
03:38:25.920 --> 03:38:30.319
is absent that one day a week. In

4977
03:38:28.640 --> 03:38:32.560
another example, most of the schools

4978
03:38:30.319 --> 03:38:35.279
considered for closure and consolidation

4979
03:38:32.560 --> 03:38:37.680
have only one full-time resource teacher

4980
03:38:35.279 --> 03:38:39.359
and sometimes even just a half-time

4981
03:38:37.680 --> 03:38:42.880
resource teacher to serve the mild

4982
03:38:39.359 --> 03:38:44.399
moderate needs students uh K8.

4983
03:38:42.880 --> 03:38:46.880
Once again, we always ensure that all

4984
03:38:44.399 --> 03:38:48.560
IEP services are met. However, the

4985
03:38:46.880 --> 03:38:51.120
ability to collaborate with colleagues

4986
03:38:48.560 --> 03:38:52.960
and parents, flexibly group students,

4987
03:38:51.120 --> 03:38:55.439
and overall support inclusionary

4988
03:38:52.960 --> 03:38:58.319
practices has its limitations with this

4989
03:38:55.439 --> 03:39:00.399
limited staffing. In a larger, more

4990
03:38:58.319 --> 03:39:02.000
right-sized school, I noted that peer

4991
03:39:00.399 --> 03:39:04.720
groupings for students is also a

4992
03:39:02.000 --> 03:39:07.120
benefit. With more students with IEPs

4993
03:39:04.720 --> 03:39:09.120
and more staff on site, we have a better

4994
03:39:07.120 --> 03:39:11.439
ability to group students with peers who

4995
03:39:09.120 --> 03:39:13.359
have similar needs, allowing for more

4996
03:39:11.439 --> 03:39:15.439
tailored instructional groups for

4997
03:39:13.359 --> 03:39:16.880
services provided both inside and

4998
03:39:15.439 --> 03:39:18.880
outside of the general education

4999
03:39:16.880 --> 03:39:21.120
classroom.

5000
03:39:18.880 --> 03:39:22.479
For staff, increases in staff also

5001
03:39:21.120 --> 03:39:24.479
provides more opportunities for

5002
03:39:22.479 --> 03:39:26.640
collaboration. When you have two

5003
03:39:24.479 --> 03:39:28.720
intensive programs at one site, you now

5004
03:39:26.640 --> 03:39:31.040
have two specialized staff who can share

5005
03:39:28.720 --> 03:39:33.120
expertise. We have heard for some time

5006
03:39:31.040 --> 03:39:35.439
now how isolating it can be for that

5007
03:39:33.120 --> 03:39:37.520
intensive teacher when there is only one

5008
03:39:35.439 --> 03:39:39.680
intensive program at an elementary

5009
03:39:37.520 --> 03:39:41.840
school without another intensive program

5010
03:39:39.680 --> 03:39:43.920
teacher to collaborate with. Two

5011
03:39:41.840 --> 03:39:45.760
specialized programs can also mean

5012
03:39:43.920 --> 03:39:48.080
flexibility for PAR educators to

5013
03:39:45.760 --> 03:39:50.640
collaborate between program needs and

5014
03:39:48.080 --> 03:39:52.399
for professional learning opportunities.

5015
03:39:50.640 --> 03:39:54.880
More collaboration between special

5016
03:39:52.399 --> 03:39:58.160
education staff and general education

5017
03:39:54.880 --> 03:40:00.479
staff benefits our students experience.

5018
03:39:58.160 --> 03:40:02.160
Lastly, increased on-site staff means

5019
03:40:00.479 --> 03:40:04.960
increased on-site support when needs

5020
03:40:02.160 --> 03:40:06.640
arise. For example, at a smaller school,

5021
03:40:04.960 --> 03:40:08.560
when a student elopes out of the

5022
03:40:06.640 --> 03:40:10.160
classroom or building, there is limited

5023
03:40:08.560 --> 03:40:12.319
staff for implementing a behavior

5024
03:40:10.160 --> 03:40:14.399
response protocol. When you have a

5025
03:40:12.319 --> 03:40:17.920
psychologist who is often the behavioral

5026
03:40:14.399 --> 03:40:19.760
expert for a building for only one or

5027
03:40:17.920 --> 03:40:21.439
two days a week or even just one

5028
03:40:19.760 --> 03:40:23.920
resource teacher to implement such

5029
03:40:21.439 --> 03:40:26.319
response plans, then resources become

5030
03:40:23.920 --> 03:40:28.160
more stretched when behaviors arise.

5031
03:40:26.319 --> 03:40:30.640
Similarly, with limited staff on site

5032
03:40:28.160 --> 03:40:32.800
each day, smaller schools tend to wait

5033
03:40:30.640 --> 03:40:35.359
for district specialists to come provide

5034
03:40:32.800 --> 03:40:37.040
guidance and specialty support rather

5035
03:40:35.359 --> 03:40:39.520
than having that guidance available and

5036
03:40:37.040 --> 03:40:41.359
on hand each day. Increased special

5037
03:40:39.520 --> 03:40:43.200
education staff available means

5038
03:40:41.359 --> 03:40:45.120
increased on-site support and quicker

5039
03:40:43.200 --> 03:40:47.439
response time when these and other needs

5040
03:40:45.120 --> 03:40:51.560
arise. And I'm going to pass this along

5041
03:40:47.439 --> 03:40:51.560
to talk about school age care.

5042
03:40:53.600 --> 03:40:58.920
>> No, two slides. Um so

5043
03:40:59.040 --> 03:41:07.040
priority of the board uh to at a minimum

5044
03:41:02.239 --> 03:41:09.520
maintain uh and where practical expand

5045
03:41:07.040 --> 03:41:12.960
uh our family support with our school

5046
03:41:09.520 --> 03:41:16.960
age care program. Uh

5047
03:41:12.960 --> 03:41:18.880
this is you know uh accomplished by uh

5048
03:41:16.960 --> 03:41:21.840
increasing the capacity which is the

5049
03:41:18.880 --> 03:41:25.279
licensed spaces uh increasing the number

5050
03:41:21.840 --> 03:41:27.840
of qualified uh child care staff and

5051
03:41:25.279 --> 03:41:30.960
also setting expectations on school

5052
03:41:27.840 --> 03:41:32.960
facility use uh and the interaction with

5053
03:41:30.960 --> 03:41:36.160
child care.

5054
03:41:32.960 --> 03:41:39.439
Uh state licensing for child care spaces

5055
03:41:36.160 --> 03:41:43.359
is very specific and very particular.

5056
03:41:39.439 --> 03:41:46.080
Um, room contents cannot shift. Um, I

5057
03:41:43.359 --> 03:41:49.520
mean this is down to the level of

5058
03:41:46.080 --> 03:41:52.399
scissors can't be left out on a table or

5059
03:41:49.520 --> 03:41:54.800
uh hand sanitizer can't be left out uh

5060
03:41:52.399 --> 03:41:58.239
if the space is to be used for child

5061
03:41:54.800 --> 03:42:01.600
care. Uh last minute changes uh cannot

5062
03:41:58.239 --> 03:42:04.720
occur because the spaces are licensed uh

5063
03:42:01.600 --> 03:42:08.560
not the whole building. Um typical

5064
03:42:04.720 --> 03:42:11.040
hiring for our SAC employees uh over the

5065
03:42:08.560 --> 03:42:14.479
summer uh just to maintain existing

5066
03:42:11.040 --> 03:42:18.560
seats is about 15 uh staff members uh

5067
03:42:14.479 --> 03:42:22.479
due to just annual turnover. U the

5068
03:42:18.560 --> 03:42:25.680
expansion of of the program will require

5069
03:42:22.479 --> 03:42:28.720
hiring two to three times as many staff

5070
03:42:25.680 --> 03:42:31.200
uh to uh sort of maximize uh what we

5071
03:42:28.720 --> 03:42:33.359
have. Uh this will be challenging

5072
03:42:31.200 --> 03:42:36.239
certainly but uh efforts are currently

5073
03:42:33.359 --> 03:42:39.040
underway. Uh we're hiring in a pool

5074
03:42:36.239 --> 03:42:43.600
situation. So instead of for specific

5075
03:42:39.040 --> 03:42:46.880
locations uh it's uh becoming a district

5076
03:42:43.600 --> 03:42:50.560
sack employee that will get assigned. Um

5077
03:42:46.880 --> 03:42:52.720
and as we reduce uh available spaces uh

5078
03:42:50.560 --> 03:42:54.479
with the number of buildings uh the

5079
03:42:52.720 --> 03:42:56.880
programming, the planning and the

5080
03:42:54.479 --> 03:43:00.160
scheduling will be critical to a

5081
03:42:56.880 --> 03:43:04.000
successful expansion. uh of our school

5082
03:43:00.160 --> 03:43:09.120
age care child care program.

5083
03:43:04.000 --> 03:43:12.880
So um this slide is uh intended to sort

5084
03:43:09.120 --> 03:43:15.279
of illustrate um the specificity that I

5085
03:43:12.880 --> 03:43:19.120
mentioned uh regarding the child care

5086
03:43:15.279 --> 03:43:22.720
licensing. Um the space is literally

5087
03:43:19.120 --> 03:43:25.040
measured. Um there are strict student

5088
03:43:22.720 --> 03:43:28.880
staff ratios. So these are not things

5089
03:43:25.040 --> 03:43:31.520
that the district gets to set as a 1:15

5090
03:43:28.880 --> 03:43:34.720
uh staffto student ratio.

5091
03:43:31.520 --> 03:43:39.600
Um there's defined separate spaces. So

5092
03:43:34.720 --> 03:43:43.520
these uh concepts of pods uh are are set

5093
03:43:39.600 --> 03:43:46.960
and you have to identify in a space in

5094
03:43:43.520 --> 03:43:49.600
the cafeteria which pod is in which area

5095
03:43:46.960 --> 03:43:52.399
of the cafeteria. Uh and the students

5096
03:43:49.600 --> 03:43:54.960
cannot intermingle. Um it's it's kind of

5097
03:43:52.399 --> 03:43:58.399
bizarre. um when you think these

5098
03:43:54.960 --> 03:44:01.279
students are doing all day and then go

5099
03:43:58.399 --> 03:44:05.040
into child care uh and that have these

5100
03:44:01.279 --> 03:44:07.760
ridiculous rules in place. Um

5101
03:44:05.040 --> 03:44:10.560
so uh this this expansion of the

5102
03:44:07.760 --> 03:44:14.000
capacity will be specific and thoughtful

5103
03:44:10.560 --> 03:44:17.000
u and is currently u

5104
03:44:14.000 --> 03:44:17.000
underway

5105
03:44:18.319 --> 03:44:21.600
following the threat of child care

5106
03:44:20.080 --> 03:44:23.920
licensing. Just a little more

5107
03:44:21.600 --> 03:44:25.520
information about preschool. Um, as we

5108
03:44:23.920 --> 03:44:28.000
shared previously, all preschool

5109
03:44:25.520 --> 03:44:30.399
locations for the 2728 school year will

5110
03:44:28.000 --> 03:44:32.160
be announced on October 1st. And

5111
03:44:30.399 --> 03:44:33.920
adjusting preschool locations has

5112
03:44:32.160 --> 03:44:36.399
additional complexities that require

5113
03:44:33.920 --> 03:44:38.160
more time. Every year we make some

5114
03:44:36.399 --> 03:44:40.399
adjustments to our preschool locations

5115
03:44:38.160 --> 03:44:42.800
based on demand. Moving locations is not

5116
03:44:40.399 --> 03:44:44.560
new. However, every time we move a

5117
03:44:42.800 --> 03:44:46.239
preschool location, there are variety of

5118
03:44:44.560 --> 03:44:48.479
factors that we need to consider for

5119
03:44:46.239 --> 03:44:50.800
each individual adjustment. space

5120
03:44:48.479 --> 03:44:52.880
available, licensing of indoor spaces,

5121
03:44:50.800 --> 03:44:54.239
licensing of outdoor spaces, feedback

5122
03:44:52.880 --> 03:44:55.760
from building principles, and then

5123
03:44:54.239 --> 03:44:58.080
matching all of that with the needs of

5124
03:44:55.760 --> 03:45:00.239
the local community. Thanks to our

5125
03:44:58.080 --> 03:45:01.840
preschool liaison who work in every area

5126
03:45:00.239 --> 03:45:04.080
of our district, we're connected with

5127
03:45:01.840 --> 03:45:06.880
family needs at the individual and group

5128
03:45:04.080 --> 03:45:08.479
level by each region. Because our

5129
03:45:06.880 --> 03:45:10.319
resilient schools proposal was not

5130
03:45:08.479 --> 03:45:12.399
predetermined once the recommendation

5131
03:45:10.319 --> 03:45:14.560
was finalized, we needed more time to

5132
03:45:12.399 --> 03:45:16.880
take all needed preschool and licensing

5133
03:45:14.560 --> 03:45:18.560
appropriate next steps to ensure we

5134
03:45:16.880 --> 03:45:21.279
proceed in the best way possible for

5135
03:45:18.560 --> 03:45:23.199
families. Maintaining preschool in each

5136
03:45:21.279 --> 03:45:25.040
region is a priority and our preschool

5137
03:45:23.199 --> 03:45:26.880
community liaison will work directly

5138
03:45:25.040 --> 03:45:28.640
with individual returning preschool

5139
03:45:26.880 --> 03:45:30.960
families who are impacted to support

5140
03:45:28.640 --> 03:45:33.199
with their next steps. I'm going to pass

5141
03:45:30.960 --> 03:45:34.960
it to Well, we'll pause for questions

5142
03:45:33.199 --> 03:45:37.040
and I will pause for questions.

5143
03:45:34.960 --> 03:45:40.800
>> Just to jump in, we have separate

5144
03:45:37.040 --> 03:45:43.279
licenses for child care and preschool in

5145
03:45:40.800 --> 03:45:45.680
the same building.

5146
03:45:43.279 --> 03:45:47.279
So, that's how complex it is.

5147
03:45:45.680 --> 03:45:49.439
>> And there were some there were a few

5148
03:45:47.279 --> 03:45:53.439
bills last year that we supported to try

5149
03:45:49.439 --> 03:45:57.040
to make that um delineation

5150
03:45:53.439 --> 03:45:58.399
easier for us and our families. Dr. Did

5151
03:45:57.040 --> 03:46:01.199
you want to say something before I

5152
03:45:58.399 --> 03:46:03.040
>> ju just just to reiterate the point? Um

5153
03:46:01.199 --> 03:46:06.000
you know it's it's hard right because

5154
03:46:03.040 --> 03:46:08.080
we're community facing and we want to be

5155
03:46:06.000 --> 03:46:09.840
accommodating to the extent that we can

5156
03:46:08.080 --> 03:46:12.720
especially around school age care. We

5157
03:46:09.840 --> 03:46:14.160
know how many two you know um families

5158
03:46:12.720 --> 03:46:16.080
with two parents that are working and

5159
03:46:14.160 --> 03:46:18.399
and their needs around school age care.

5160
03:46:16.080 --> 03:46:21.920
We understand that and we understand the

5161
03:46:18.399 --> 03:46:24.160
needs for preschool. um you know uh and

5162
03:46:21.920 --> 03:46:27.920
board members I will remind you I pushed

5163
03:46:24.160 --> 03:46:30.880
back against the both of these things um

5164
03:46:27.920 --> 03:46:32.880
in addition to 1448 as as an advocate

5165
03:46:30.880 --> 03:46:35.520
for the school district. Uh but it can

5166
03:46:32.880 --> 03:46:37.439
be tricky because as a parent you'd

5167
03:46:35.520 --> 03:46:40.560
think, oh just one more kid or two more

5168
03:46:37.439 --> 03:46:44.720
kids and then the the consequences of

5169
03:46:40.560 --> 03:46:46.399
the spot site visits, right? Um become

5170
03:46:44.720 --> 03:46:48.080
very significant. Board members, for

5171
03:46:46.399 --> 03:46:51.120
those of you that were paying attention,

5172
03:46:48.080 --> 03:46:53.279
I think it was back in 2019 2020 when we

5173
03:46:51.120 --> 03:46:54.880
had to take all of this in house. we

5174
03:46:53.279 --> 03:46:56.800
were partnering with the YMCA at that

5175
03:46:54.880 --> 03:46:59.680
point that was providing services in our

5176
03:46:56.800 --> 03:47:02.720
schools and the constant citations and

5177
03:46:59.680 --> 03:47:04.000
violations and issues there. Um, and so

5178
03:47:02.720 --> 03:47:06.560
I think we've done a good job of

5179
03:47:04.000 --> 03:47:10.399
stabilizing the program. Um, but

5180
03:47:06.560 --> 03:47:12.960
licensing the spaces, hiring the people,

5181
03:47:10.399 --> 03:47:15.199
it's just a a complexity. Uh, we're up

5182
03:47:12.960 --> 03:47:16.720
for the task, but uh we can't grow to

5183
03:47:15.199 --> 03:47:18.479
the needs of our community. We are

5184
03:47:16.720 --> 03:47:21.680
limited to the spaces that we have to

5185
03:47:18.479 --> 03:47:24.479
grow these programs.

5186
03:47:21.680 --> 03:47:25.920
>> Thank you, Dr. Rob. Anderson. Uh board

5187
03:47:24.479 --> 03:47:28.000
members, who would like to begin? I

5188
03:47:25.920 --> 03:47:29.359
know, um Jason and Deianne both had a

5189
03:47:28.000 --> 03:47:31.199
question earlier that I asked you to

5190
03:47:29.359 --> 03:47:32.560
hold on to until we got to this point in

5191
03:47:31.199 --> 03:47:34.479
the presentation. So maybe I will start

5192
03:47:32.560 --> 03:47:35.600
with the two of you and then move on to

5193
03:47:34.479 --> 03:47:38.600
other board members that may have

5194
03:47:35.600 --> 03:47:38.600
questions.

5195
03:47:40.160 --> 03:47:44.239
>> Um yeah, my question and thanks to that

5196
03:47:42.399 --> 03:47:46.479
really appreciate uh all that

5197
03:47:44.239 --> 03:47:48.000
information. Um, I have some additional

5198
03:47:46.479 --> 03:47:49.920
questions that came up, but I'll start

5199
03:47:48.000 --> 03:47:51.680
with the special education question that

5200
03:47:49.920 --> 03:47:53.120
we talked about. Just, you know, I think

5201
03:47:51.680 --> 03:47:54.640
we've talked about it previously in the

5202
03:47:53.120 --> 03:47:56.720
budget section and what it means

5203
03:47:54.640 --> 03:47:57.760
dollar-wise. I just want to get a sense

5204
03:47:56.720 --> 03:47:59.680
and obviously you talked about all the

5205
03:47:57.760 --> 03:48:01.120
high all the benefits of, you know,

5206
03:47:59.680 --> 03:48:03.920
combined programs and additional

5207
03:48:01.120 --> 03:48:05.359
staffing and just larger schools. Um,

5208
03:48:03.920 --> 03:48:06.720
but what what are we talking about when

5209
03:48:05.359 --> 03:48:09.199
in terms like when we're talking about

5210
03:48:06.720 --> 03:48:10.880
a, you know, standing up a new site at a

5211
03:48:09.199 --> 03:48:12.720
new location that didn't previously have

5212
03:48:10.880 --> 03:48:14.720
it? you know, you know, Rob went into

5213
03:48:12.720 --> 03:48:16.319
kind of the logistics of construction,

5214
03:48:14.720 --> 03:48:18.239
but what does that look like? Do you

5215
03:48:16.319 --> 03:48:22.560
have any major concerns about some of

5216
03:48:18.239 --> 03:48:24.479
these uh potentially new locations? Um,

5217
03:48:22.560 --> 03:48:26.960
I think just what what is the what will

5218
03:48:24.479 --> 03:48:31.439
like students kind of exp will their

5219
03:48:26.960 --> 03:48:34.239
experience be different? Will it um

5220
03:48:31.439 --> 03:48:35.359
hopefully not um decrease, but like you

5221
03:48:34.239 --> 03:48:36.560
know what what are we what are we

5222
03:48:35.359 --> 03:48:38.479
looking at when it comes to this

5223
03:48:36.560 --> 03:48:41.760
transition?

5224
03:48:38.479 --> 03:48:45.520
>> Thank you. And thank you for waiting.

5225
03:48:41.760 --> 03:48:48.720
Um so standing up new sites is not new.

5226
03:48:45.520 --> 03:48:51.040
This is my 16th year here and we have

5227
03:48:48.720 --> 03:48:54.800
opened new programs. We've moved new

5228
03:48:51.040 --> 03:48:57.199
programs. We have learned a lot um often

5229
03:48:54.800 --> 03:49:00.239
by doing that well and sometimes by

5230
03:48:57.199 --> 03:49:03.680
doing it not well unfortunately. Um so

5231
03:49:00.239 --> 03:49:05.600
we are working from um as Dr. Miller had

5232
03:49:03.680 --> 03:49:07.600
had shared earlier, you know, checklist

5233
03:49:05.600 --> 03:49:10.080
of things that work well that we've

5234
03:49:07.600 --> 03:49:12.640
learned over time from from doing this.

5235
03:49:10.080 --> 03:49:14.479
Um, I'm really honored that our

5236
03:49:12.640 --> 03:49:16.000
community has come out and said we love

5237
03:49:14.479 --> 03:49:18.239
our programs at the schools that are

5238
03:49:16.000 --> 03:49:21.760
there. I think I take that as a real

5239
03:49:18.239 --> 03:49:23.199
positive. Um, we we want to work with

5240
03:49:21.760 --> 03:49:25.680
our communities at each of these

5241
03:49:23.199 --> 03:49:28.239
schools. And so I want to start by

5242
03:49:25.680 --> 03:49:31.199
saying one of the things that we've done

5243
03:49:28.239 --> 03:49:34.720
um the day after the proposals was the

5244
03:49:31.199 --> 03:49:36.720
proposal was announced is um we did a

5245
03:49:34.720 --> 03:49:38.960
couple of things. My department the

5246
03:49:36.720 --> 03:49:42.319
directors of my department and I called

5247
03:49:38.960 --> 03:49:44.080
parents of uh students in the intensive

5248
03:49:42.319 --> 03:49:46.479
learning center programs the ICANS

5249
03:49:44.080 --> 03:49:48.800
autism programs who would be potentially

5250
03:49:46.479 --> 03:49:52.560
impacted. We called each of those

5251
03:49:48.800 --> 03:49:54.239
parents um between 70 and 80 parents. We

5252
03:49:52.560 --> 03:49:56.000
had a just a couple we didn't get in

5253
03:49:54.239 --> 03:49:58.640
touch with. Um so that's why I say

5254
03:49:56.000 --> 03:50:00.319
between 70 and 80 and we spoke with them

5255
03:49:58.640 --> 03:50:02.239
directly. We said did you hear the board

5256
03:50:00.319 --> 03:50:03.920
meeting? You know did what did you

5257
03:50:02.239 --> 03:50:05.439
understand from the proposal? We wanted

5258
03:50:03.920 --> 03:50:08.319
to talk with them and make sure they

5259
03:50:05.439 --> 03:50:10.640
understood directly from us what the

5260
03:50:08.319 --> 03:50:13.040
proposal meant for their child. Answer

5261
03:50:10.640 --> 03:50:17.840
their questions. Um hear from them

5262
03:50:13.040 --> 03:50:19.600
directly. um and and um make sure they

5263
03:50:17.840 --> 03:50:23.199
knew that we would call them back

5264
03:50:19.600 --> 03:50:24.960
directly so that they knew what when the

5265
03:50:23.199 --> 03:50:27.120
decisions were made, what that would

5266
03:50:24.960 --> 03:50:28.960
mean for their child, if they had a

5267
03:50:27.120 --> 03:50:31.040
direct concern about a particular

5268
03:50:28.960 --> 03:50:34.160
location, what the options might be for

5269
03:50:31.040 --> 03:50:37.040
their child. Um because with any

5270
03:50:34.160 --> 03:50:39.279
location decision for a child, um at

5271
03:50:37.040 --> 03:50:42.319
times we can honor some differences for

5272
03:50:39.279 --> 03:50:45.600
that family and that child. Um, so most

5273
03:50:42.319 --> 03:50:47.680
of our families um are ready to work

5274
03:50:45.600 --> 03:50:49.600
with us on that decision. They

5275
03:50:47.680 --> 03:50:52.560
understand the decision if that's what's

5276
03:50:49.600 --> 03:50:53.840
made. Um, and and they gave us some

5277
03:50:52.560 --> 03:50:56.880
feedback. So, we have a couple of

5278
03:50:53.840 --> 03:50:58.640
schools that those parents said, "Hey,

5279
03:50:56.880 --> 03:51:01.120
for this school and this community, we

5280
03:50:58.640 --> 03:51:02.800
we are interested in how we can develop

5281
03:51:01.120 --> 03:51:04.640
that culture from this school to this

5282
03:51:02.800 --> 03:51:07.040
school. Can we have a parent steering

5283
03:51:04.640 --> 03:51:08.960
committee?" Yes, let's do that. So, we

5284
03:51:07.040 --> 03:51:11.279
took a lot of their feedback and we're

5285
03:51:08.960 --> 03:51:13.040
working with them um not only on that

5286
03:51:11.279 --> 03:51:15.760
checklist of things that we usually do

5287
03:51:13.040 --> 03:51:17.359
like school tours with the families and

5288
03:51:15.760 --> 03:51:19.520
meet and greets like the things that we

5289
03:51:17.359 --> 03:51:21.840
know that work over time as we move in

5290
03:51:19.520 --> 03:51:24.560
open programs. Um but what are the

5291
03:51:21.840 --> 03:51:27.439
things for the unique individual

5292
03:51:24.560 --> 03:51:29.760
programs at that school as we move it

5293
03:51:27.439 --> 03:51:31.600
the communities um and what those

5294
03:51:29.760 --> 03:51:33.199
families and ultimately as we start to

5295
03:51:31.600 --> 03:51:35.439
talk to students what will the students

5296
03:51:33.199 --> 03:51:38.319
want us to do because their input is

5297
03:51:35.439 --> 03:51:40.000
important important their voice is

5298
03:51:38.319 --> 03:51:41.199
important we haven't gotten to that yet

5299
03:51:40.000 --> 03:51:42.960
because I think it's important that

5300
03:51:41.199 --> 03:51:45.199
those decisions are made before we speak

5301
03:51:42.960 --> 03:51:47.520
to the students but we heard that from

5302
03:51:45.199 --> 03:51:49.760
the parents um we're talking to them and

5303
03:51:47.520 --> 03:51:51.120
we said we will call you back we want to

5304
03:51:49.760 --> 03:51:53.840
talk to you directly

5305
03:51:51.120 --> 03:51:55.680
The other thing we did that next morning

5306
03:51:53.840 --> 03:51:58.399
um before we talked to the parents was

5307
03:51:55.680 --> 03:52:01.199
we offered a meeting directly with the

5308
03:51:58.399 --> 03:52:03.600
intensive learning center teachers

5309
03:52:01.199 --> 03:52:05.359
um and it was optional. It was during a

5310
03:52:03.600 --> 03:52:07.279
late start. We didn't say you have to be

5311
03:52:05.359 --> 03:52:09.199
here but we offered to speak with them

5312
03:52:07.279 --> 03:52:11.600
before we called the parents so that

5313
03:52:09.199 --> 03:52:14.479
they understood the proposal. They

5314
03:52:11.600 --> 03:52:16.560
understood the potential impact and and

5315
03:52:14.479 --> 03:52:19.120
they came with all levels of questions

5316
03:52:16.560 --> 03:52:21.199
and all levels of emotions but they were

5317
03:52:19.120 --> 03:52:24.399
really grateful. So, I want to say that

5318
03:52:21.199 --> 03:52:26.560
that was that was the thing we heard the

5319
03:52:24.399 --> 03:52:29.040
most both from the parents and the

5320
03:52:26.560 --> 03:52:30.399
teachers was just being grateful that

5321
03:52:29.040 --> 03:52:33.279
they got to have that direct

5322
03:52:30.399 --> 03:52:36.080
communication and that they could ask

5323
03:52:33.279 --> 03:52:39.279
direct questions and understand directly

5324
03:52:36.080 --> 03:52:41.359
from our department. Um, uh, and also

5325
03:52:39.279 --> 03:52:44.479
grateful for the feedback, the time to

5326
03:52:41.359 --> 03:52:46.319
give direct feedback with us.

5327
03:52:44.479 --> 03:52:47.279
That wasn't a direct response to your

5328
03:52:46.319 --> 03:52:48.880
question, but I feel like it was

5329
03:52:47.279 --> 03:52:52.640
important to put out in the space right

5330
03:52:48.880 --> 03:52:54.319
away. Um, so the things that we do to

5331
03:52:52.640 --> 03:52:56.479
stand up a new site, we have that sort

5332
03:52:54.319 --> 03:52:58.239
of checklist of things that work. Again,

5333
03:52:56.479 --> 03:53:00.160
walkthroughs with families, invite you

5334
03:52:58.239 --> 03:53:02.000
to a tour, walkthroughs with the

5335
03:53:00.160 --> 03:53:05.040
principal. So, we're already thinking

5336
03:53:02.000 --> 03:53:08.640
about dates that those could happen,

5337
03:53:05.040 --> 03:53:12.720
looking at the space of the site. Um we

5338
03:53:08.640 --> 03:53:16.080
have um back to the thinking about the

5339
03:53:12.720 --> 03:53:18.399
spaces and the dollars set aside for uh

5340
03:53:16.080 --> 03:53:21.520
facilities, right? We have standard

5341
03:53:18.399 --> 03:53:24.239
procedures um specifications for each

5342
03:53:21.520 --> 03:53:28.160
program. We know an IAN program needs to

5343
03:53:24.239 --> 03:53:31.680
have a calming space. We know um every

5344
03:53:28.160 --> 03:53:33.439
program needs to have a sensory space.

5345
03:53:31.680 --> 03:53:35.120
We know each program has to have a

5346
03:53:33.439 --> 03:53:37.040
classroom with a certain amount of space

5347
03:53:35.120 --> 03:53:38.800
for the students. Each of those

5348
03:53:37.040 --> 03:53:40.640
specifications are already being thought

5349
03:53:38.800 --> 03:53:42.640
about for each buildings. So that's part

5350
03:53:40.640 --> 03:53:44.080
of standing up a new site. The list goes

5351
03:53:42.640 --> 03:53:46.560
on. I won't go through every little

5352
03:53:44.080 --> 03:53:48.080
detail. And then for each of these, then

5353
03:53:46.560 --> 03:53:50.000
again, we're talking with families.

5354
03:53:48.080 --> 03:53:51.920
We're talking with teachers. What are

5355
03:53:50.000 --> 03:53:55.199
the things in addition to the standard

5356
03:53:51.920 --> 03:53:58.239
kinds of things that are unique to your

5357
03:53:55.199 --> 03:54:00.560
school and your school culture and your

5358
03:53:58.239 --> 03:54:03.439
community? Because what we know we want

5359
03:54:00.560 --> 03:54:06.239
to do is lift up that program. and

5360
03:54:03.439 --> 03:54:09.040
what's special about that program and

5361
03:54:06.239 --> 03:54:11.359
move it with the school in the program.

5362
03:54:09.040 --> 03:54:14.800
I'm working right now with our human

5363
03:54:11.359 --> 03:54:17.840
resources on also how quickly and how

5364
03:54:14.800 --> 03:54:19.920
much can we commit to moving this staff.

5365
03:54:17.840 --> 03:54:22.319
Um, and I think we can make some real

5366
03:54:19.920 --> 03:54:24.319
quick commitments to that because um,

5367
03:54:22.319 --> 03:54:27.359
and I say that because I'm speaking with

5368
03:54:24.319 --> 03:54:30.000
human resources about it. Um, because

5369
03:54:27.359 --> 03:54:32.720
that is the plan to move the program and

5370
03:54:30.000 --> 03:54:34.880
as much of the staff as possible because

5371
03:54:32.720 --> 03:54:36.800
that that that's what's going to make

5372
03:54:34.880 --> 03:54:40.160
this transition work for our students in

5373
03:54:36.800 --> 03:54:42.800
these programs. having the culture,

5374
03:54:40.160 --> 03:54:46.160
having the staff as much as possible

5375
03:54:42.800 --> 03:54:49.600
move with them. Um because the

5376
03:54:46.160 --> 03:54:51.359
consistency, the culture, not just the

5377
03:54:49.600 --> 03:54:53.680
space, right? Not just the name of the

5378
03:54:51.359 --> 03:54:56.239
program. So those are some of the things

5379
03:54:53.680 --> 03:54:58.399
that standing up a new site means. And

5380
03:54:56.239 --> 03:55:01.760
because of those things, I don't have

5381
03:54:58.399 --> 03:55:03.840
the concerns with the new new locations.

5382
03:55:01.760 --> 03:55:06.560
We also have had a lot of opportunity to

5383
03:55:03.840 --> 03:55:08.720
talk in pre-planning about the specific

5384
03:55:06.560 --> 03:55:10.880
locations that were selected to make

5385
03:55:08.720 --> 03:55:12.560
sure they're very inclusive, that they

5386
03:55:10.880 --> 03:55:14.160
have strong leaders, like all the things

5387
03:55:12.560 --> 03:55:16.640
that you would desire in those new

5388
03:55:14.160 --> 03:55:18.239
locations, not again, not just the

5389
03:55:16.640 --> 03:55:19.680
space.

5390
03:55:18.239 --> 03:55:23.920
Um, and to ensure that the student

5391
03:55:19.680 --> 03:55:27.800
experience is is going to be strong.

5392
03:55:23.920 --> 03:55:27.800
>> Yeah, thanks very much, Michelle.

5393
03:55:30.239 --> 03:55:35.279
Um, what about two I have two questions.

5394
03:55:32.800 --> 03:55:38.080
One is uh the 10 families that you

5395
03:55:35.279 --> 03:55:39.600
talked about that you haven't reached.

5396
03:55:38.080 --> 03:55:41.359
Should they reach out to you if they're

5397
03:55:39.600 --> 03:55:44.080
listening to this?

5398
03:55:41.359 --> 03:55:47.199
>> I would love for any family to reach out

5399
03:55:44.080 --> 03:55:50.399
um please. Um we one of the things that

5400
03:55:47.199 --> 03:55:52.160
we also uh did in our things that we've

5401
03:55:50.399 --> 03:55:55.120
already done is we have on on the

5402
03:55:52.160 --> 03:55:56.560
website there's a spot that says for um

5403
03:55:55.120 --> 03:55:58.000
I'm not going to quote it exactly. I'm

5404
03:55:56.560 --> 03:55:59.760
going to paraphrase for students with

5405
03:55:58.000 --> 03:56:02.000
special needs. There's a little spot on

5406
03:55:59.760 --> 03:56:03.680
the website. Um, you know, there's click

5407
03:56:02.000 --> 03:56:06.080
here and there's a drop down. We also

5408
03:56:03.680 --> 03:56:07.600
have a parent liaison that any family

5409
03:56:06.080 --> 03:56:09.279
can reach out to. She's been taking

5410
03:56:07.600 --> 03:56:11.920
phone calls. Her name is Elizabeth

5411
03:56:09.279 --> 03:56:13.680
Likenstein. Um, she's available. Give

5412
03:56:11.920 --> 03:56:16.319
her a call. She can answer questions

5413
03:56:13.680 --> 03:56:17.760
probably faster than I can. Um, so

5414
03:56:16.319 --> 03:56:20.319
please give her a call. Send her an

5415
03:56:17.760 --> 03:56:23.279
email. She'll call you back. Um, but any

5416
03:56:20.319 --> 03:56:25.199
parent, please call her. Um, and and

5417
03:56:23.279 --> 03:56:27.199
then also reach out to me. the parents

5418
03:56:25.199 --> 03:56:29.040
we didn't reach, we have tried them

5419
03:56:27.199 --> 03:56:30.800
multiple times and some of those

5420
03:56:29.040 --> 03:56:34.640
families have reached out um in the

5421
03:56:30.800 --> 03:56:38.479
interim both to me and to Elizabeth.

5422
03:56:34.640 --> 03:56:41.120
>> Um my question is really about um maybe

5423
03:56:38.479 --> 03:56:45.279
harder to reach families. How about all

5424
03:56:41.120 --> 03:56:48.880
of our students who are on who have 504s

5425
03:56:45.279 --> 03:56:51.520
and um the building that they're being

5426
03:56:48.880 --> 03:56:54.560
moved to is is maybe not appropriate for

5427
03:56:51.520 --> 03:56:55.920
them to deal with if they have ADHD or

5428
03:56:54.560 --> 03:56:58.080
something?

5429
03:56:55.920 --> 03:57:00.000
>> Is that something that you can help

5430
03:56:58.080 --> 03:57:02.160
families with?

5431
03:57:00.000 --> 03:57:04.880
>> Sure. Um well, I work closely with

5432
03:57:02.160 --> 03:57:07.040
Shannon Numeare, who's our 504 uh

5433
03:57:04.880 --> 03:57:09.760
coordinator, I think is her title. Um

5434
03:57:07.040 --> 03:57:12.000
sorry Shannon if I got it wrong.

5435
03:57:09.760 --> 03:57:13.439
Um so that's part of the facilities I

5436
03:57:12.000 --> 03:57:16.319
think dollars that we were talking about

5437
03:57:13.439 --> 03:57:19.600
on the earlier slide is um once

5438
03:57:16.319 --> 03:57:21.520
decisions are made um already sort of

5439
03:57:19.600 --> 03:57:24.000
planning time I think we've held time on

5440
03:57:21.520 --> 03:57:25.760
the calendars just in case as quickly as

5441
03:57:24.000 --> 03:57:29.040
possible after decisions are made to

5442
03:57:25.760 --> 03:57:31.840
walk all the buildings um and say what

5443
03:57:29.040 --> 03:57:33.359
are those things from a um adaptability

5444
03:57:31.840 --> 03:57:34.800
standpoint because we know some of that

5445
03:57:33.359 --> 03:57:37.279
will need to be done that's why dollars

5446
03:57:34.800 --> 03:57:40.160
are earmarked um we know what the ADA

5447
03:57:37.279 --> 03:57:44.479
rules are ADA a rules don't go far

5448
03:57:40.160 --> 03:57:46.720
enough in many cases. So, what well, our

5449
03:57:44.479 --> 03:57:48.319
buildings meet the ADA rules. So, what

5450
03:57:46.720 --> 03:57:51.040
beyond that do we need to be thinking

5451
03:57:48.319 --> 03:57:52.640
about? Um, and again, we would invite

5452
03:57:51.040 --> 03:57:54.080
families to reach out that have concerns

5453
03:57:52.640 --> 03:57:56.399
and let's talk to them about the

5454
03:57:54.080 --> 03:57:57.920
concerns that they have so that we can

5455
03:57:56.399 --> 03:57:58.960
we have time to problem solve those

5456
03:57:57.920 --> 03:58:00.239
things that they have questions and

5457
03:57:58.960 --> 03:58:02.479
concerns about.

5458
03:58:00.239 --> 03:58:06.399
>> I'm gonna let Dr. Anderson jump in here.

5459
03:58:02.479 --> 03:58:08.399
Michelle, to clarify, um,

5460
03:58:06.399 --> 03:58:11.680
within within parents and students who

5461
03:58:08.399 --> 03:58:14.160
have 504 plans, do we have 504 plans

5462
03:58:11.680 --> 03:58:16.640
that have building limitations, building

5463
03:58:14.160 --> 03:58:19.199
design limitations within the language

5464
03:58:16.640 --> 03:58:20.800
of a 504 plan where it wouldn't allow a

5465
03:58:19.199 --> 03:58:21.840
student to go to their neighborhood

5466
03:58:20.800 --> 03:58:24.160
school?

5467
03:58:21.840 --> 03:58:26.239
>> No. No. Um, in a 504 plan, you would

5468
03:58:24.160 --> 03:58:28.239
have accommodations, right? So, it

5469
03:58:26.239 --> 03:58:30.319
wouldn't have a building limitation,

5470
03:58:28.239 --> 03:58:32.640
right? But it might have things like

5471
03:58:30.319 --> 03:58:36.399
that they need to access like the an

5472
03:58:32.640 --> 03:58:37.600
elevator, right? So to speak. Um it it

5473
03:58:36.399 --> 03:58:41.640
would be those kinds of accommodations.

5474
03:58:37.600 --> 03:58:41.640
>> Okay. Just wanted to clarify. Thanks.

5475
03:58:42.479 --> 03:58:48.080
>> Jason and then Alex.

5476
03:58:45.920 --> 03:58:50.960
>> Um thanks. Uh I have a question, Bill,

5477
03:58:48.080 --> 03:58:52.960
about sack. Um, I appreciate uh the

5478
03:58:50.960 --> 03:58:55.120
complexity of the permitting and just

5479
03:58:52.960 --> 03:58:56.960
uncertainty of it all, but particularly

5480
03:58:55.120 --> 03:58:58.560
for the families that are in the

5481
03:58:56.960 --> 03:58:59.840
proposed consolidations. You know,

5482
03:58:58.560 --> 03:59:00.720
they've been there's questions. Are we

5483
03:58:59.840 --> 03:59:02.560
going to be able to, you know, if

5484
03:59:00.720 --> 03:59:05.439
there's 30 spots at one school and 30 at

5485
03:59:02.560 --> 03:59:07.680
the next, can we guarantee 60 new spots?

5486
03:59:05.439 --> 03:59:10.319
I know we sounds like we cannot do that

5487
03:59:07.680 --> 03:59:11.920
at this point but what is there a point

5488
03:59:10.319 --> 03:59:13.359
where we should be able to know more

5489
03:59:11.920 --> 03:59:17.120
where we'll be able to provide some kind

5490
03:59:13.359 --> 03:59:19.680
of um guarantee information commitment

5491
03:59:17.120 --> 03:59:21.920
to families that you know we will have x

5492
03:59:19.680 --> 03:59:23.040
number of spots or we should expect this

5493
03:59:21.920 --> 03:59:25.600
I think that's you know obviously Dr.

5494
03:59:23.040 --> 03:59:27.920
parents who talked about um you know for

5495
03:59:25.600 --> 03:59:30.080
for families with two working parents

5496
03:59:27.920 --> 03:59:31.920
this is a big consideration something

5497
03:59:30.080 --> 03:59:33.680
you know we're providing information

5498
03:59:31.920 --> 03:59:35.840
about preschools on October 1st. It

5499
03:59:33.680 --> 03:59:37.920
would be great if there's a a set date

5500
03:59:35.840 --> 03:59:40.080
or something we can put on the calendar

5501
03:59:37.920 --> 03:59:42.800
to let families know you will know or

5502
03:59:40.080 --> 03:59:46.720
have a a better sense uh of what to

5503
03:59:42.800 --> 03:59:52.880
expect than we have right now.

5504
03:59:46.720 --> 03:59:55.279
Uh guarantee is a strong word um to be

5505
03:59:52.880 --> 03:59:59.920
able to say that we can guarantee

5506
03:59:55.279 --> 04:00:04.800
something um because a lot of it will

5507
03:59:59.920 --> 04:00:07.120
rely on that uh result of combining and

5508
04:00:04.800 --> 04:00:11.319
open enrollment uh and the spaces

5509
04:00:07.120 --> 04:00:11.319
available. Um

5510
04:00:11.680 --> 04:00:21.359
we are working starting to work with uh

5511
04:00:16.399 --> 04:00:25.680
the u licensing staff to

5512
04:00:21.359 --> 04:00:29.439
uh relook at the spaces, reme-measure

5513
04:00:25.680 --> 04:00:31.840
uh um uh look at new spaces that haven't

5514
04:00:29.439 --> 04:00:34.080
been used. Uh and this is where some of

5515
04:00:31.840 --> 04:00:37.840
the challenge with uh resetting

5516
04:00:34.080 --> 04:00:42.479
expectations with uh building staff um

5517
04:00:37.840 --> 04:00:44.960
and the community of what some spaces

5518
04:00:42.479 --> 04:00:47.520
have been used for. Uh and if we're

5519
04:00:44.960 --> 04:00:50.720
going to uh identify them as licensed

5520
04:00:47.520 --> 04:00:52.720
child care spaces, uh they won't be able

5521
04:00:50.720 --> 04:00:55.680
to be used for what they may have been

5522
04:00:52.720 --> 04:00:59.120
in the past. Um

5523
04:00:55.680 --> 04:01:02.479
we run our lottery uh after open

5524
04:00:59.120 --> 04:01:06.720
enrollment. Uh so that will help uh to

5525
04:01:02.479 --> 04:01:10.080
some extent um identify you know where

5526
04:01:06.720 --> 04:01:13.680
uh the uh resulting

5527
04:01:10.080 --> 04:01:16.960
effects of of choice enrollment uh fall

5528
04:01:13.680 --> 04:01:20.000
out. Um

5529
04:01:16.960 --> 04:01:23.359
the hiring will be the greatest

5530
04:01:20.000 --> 04:01:28.720
challenge. Uh these are all part-time

5531
04:01:23.359 --> 04:01:32.399
jobs. Uh they are um highly qualified.

5532
04:01:28.720 --> 04:01:37.120
they have to have specific um

5533
04:01:32.399 --> 04:01:41.680
qualifications and lenture. Um and uh

5534
04:01:37.120 --> 04:01:44.960
while we do have that uh annual turnover

5535
04:01:41.680 --> 04:01:47.279
uh we um

5536
04:01:44.960 --> 04:01:51.439
have to really work hard at maintaining

5537
04:01:47.279 --> 04:01:55.120
that. So to the extent that a uh two

5538
04:01:51.439 --> 04:01:59.520
buildings are merging and the two

5539
04:01:55.120 --> 04:02:02.160
buildings have uh sack programs in them,

5540
04:01:59.520 --> 04:02:05.840
there are staff available uh to be able

5541
04:02:02.160 --> 04:02:09.760
to move over. So that uh uh helps uh in

5542
04:02:05.840 --> 04:02:12.560
a significant way. Um to be able to

5543
04:02:09.760 --> 04:02:15.760
expand beyond that and clear weight

5544
04:02:12.560 --> 04:02:20.399
lists is where some of the challenge uh

5545
04:02:15.760 --> 04:02:25.279
comes. uh we are um putting a priority

5546
04:02:20.399 --> 04:02:29.279
in place or um and we used this uh when

5547
04:02:25.279 --> 04:02:34.960
the boundary changes were implemented a

5548
04:02:29.279 --> 04:02:37.520
year ago um to give reszoned families

5549
04:02:34.960 --> 04:02:41.760
the that are in the program that

5550
04:02:37.520 --> 04:02:44.800
returning uh status. So, um that's a

5551
04:02:41.760 --> 04:02:47.680
like if you're in the two schools and

5552
04:02:44.800 --> 04:02:49.920
you're coming together, it's like you uh

5553
04:02:47.680 --> 04:02:54.239
had been in those two schools um

5554
04:02:49.920 --> 04:02:58.000
previously. Um, so in the spring when we

5555
04:02:54.239 --> 04:03:02.640
get towards that uh uh lottery process

5556
04:02:58.000 --> 04:03:04.399
for uh sack, we will have better answers

5557
04:03:02.640 --> 04:03:07.920
uh than we do right now because again,

5558
04:03:04.399 --> 04:03:10.560
you know, we can only start so much um

5559
04:03:07.920 --> 04:03:12.239
before the decision has been made.

5560
04:03:10.560 --> 04:03:13.600
>> Dr. Anderson,

5561
04:03:12.239 --> 04:03:16.319
>> you know, board members, this is an

5562
04:03:13.600 --> 04:03:19.199
example of why timing matters, right?

5563
04:03:16.319 --> 04:03:22.560
the the um once you have your questions

5564
04:03:19.199 --> 04:03:25.199
answered, once you um have heard from

5565
04:03:22.560 --> 04:03:28.479
from our team, uh the answers to

5566
04:03:25.199 --> 04:03:30.479
community questions, uh the faster uh

5567
04:03:28.479 --> 04:03:32.239
and and and the the timeline just

5568
04:03:30.479 --> 04:03:34.960
matters, right? Licensing is something

5569
04:03:32.239 --> 04:03:38.239
outside of our control. Hiring processes

5570
04:03:34.960 --> 04:03:41.279
take time. Um, so, uh, I just wanted to

5571
04:03:38.239 --> 04:03:43.120
highlight, um, you know, why why does

5572
04:03:41.279 --> 04:03:45.120
timing matter? In addition to the open

5573
04:03:43.120 --> 04:03:46.720
enrollment timeline that you all are

5574
04:03:45.120 --> 04:03:49.600
well aware of, which is why you moved

5575
04:03:46.720 --> 04:03:52.080
this decision to the 22nd, that's not

5576
04:03:49.600 --> 04:03:54.399
the only thing that's hanging on. The

5577
04:03:52.080 --> 04:03:56.560
more time we have, the higher the

5578
04:03:54.399 --> 04:03:58.640
likelihood we'll be able to deliver on

5579
04:03:56.560 --> 04:04:02.279
things that folks really are counting on

5580
04:03:58.640 --> 04:04:02.279
from the school district.

5581
04:04:03.680 --> 04:04:09.359
>> Thank you. Uh if I could I'd um go back

5582
04:04:07.040 --> 04:04:11.600
to slide 35.

5583
04:04:09.359 --> 04:04:13.199
Uh we've heard from the community that

5584
04:04:11.600 --> 04:04:15.680
they are interested in various

5585
04:04:13.199 --> 04:04:18.399
guarantees and I agree that with Bill

5586
04:04:15.680 --> 04:04:21.199
that guarantees are really I I would

5587
04:04:18.399 --> 04:04:22.560
never saddle future boards uh with

5588
04:04:21.199 --> 04:04:24.560
guarantees of things that we can't

5589
04:04:22.560 --> 04:04:26.640
deliver on and so if we did it'd be like

5590
04:04:24.560 --> 04:04:28.239
oh I'm imagining I know what the budget

5591
04:04:26.640 --> 04:04:29.600
from the state's going to be and I can

5592
04:04:28.239 --> 04:04:31.279
imagine you know all these things that

5593
04:04:29.600 --> 04:04:34.720
we can't control. So I think that's

5594
04:04:31.279 --> 04:04:36.720
guarantees are basically dishonest. Um

5595
04:04:34.720 --> 04:04:40.640
but I believe transparency is a

5596
04:04:36.720 --> 04:04:42.239
commitment we can fulfill and so uh

5597
04:04:40.640 --> 04:04:44.080
we've talked and our community has

5598
04:04:42.239 --> 04:04:46.319
talked a lot about the things they value

5599
04:04:44.080 --> 04:04:50.640
through that engagement process. So I'm

5600
04:04:46.319 --> 04:04:52.399
glad to see like slide 35 and I I really

5601
04:04:50.640 --> 04:04:55.279
uh I think it's incumbent on us as a

5602
04:04:52.399 --> 04:04:57.199
district to develop a sophisticated

5603
04:04:55.279 --> 04:04:59.040
system to track the implementation of

5604
04:04:57.199 --> 04:05:01.359
the things that we're doing this for.

5605
04:04:59.040 --> 04:05:02.800
And so I want to make sure that as we

5606
04:05:01.359 --> 04:05:05.840
move forward over the next five or ten

5607
04:05:02.800 --> 04:05:07.359
years that we keep track of the specials

5608
04:05:05.840 --> 04:05:10.000
that are traveling to teachers in the

5609
04:05:07.359 --> 04:05:12.880
split positions that people have really

5610
04:05:10.000 --> 04:05:15.199
transparent data on class size and not

5611
04:05:12.880 --> 04:05:16.720
just class size but also I mean I would

5612
04:05:15.199 --> 04:05:20.080
make two comments on the class size

5613
04:05:16.720 --> 04:05:22.399
stuff. It's teacher salaries and class

5614
04:05:20.080 --> 04:05:23.840
size are part of the same thing. Like if

5615
04:05:22.399 --> 04:05:25.840
you only have a million dollars to pay

5616
04:05:23.840 --> 04:05:28.000
for teacher compensation, you can pay

5617
04:05:25.840 --> 04:05:29.920
teachers more if you have bigger class

5618
04:05:28.000 --> 04:05:31.520
sizes and fewer teachers. And you can

5619
04:05:29.920 --> 04:05:32.720
have bigger smaller class size if

5620
04:05:31.520 --> 04:05:33.840
there's more teachers. And if the

5621
04:05:32.720 --> 04:05:37.040
money's fixed, you have to pay them

5622
04:05:33.840 --> 04:05:39.120
less. So like we we know we will want to

5623
04:05:37.040 --> 04:05:41.600
have the smallest class size for the

5624
04:05:39.120 --> 04:05:44.160
students benefits possible. We also have

5625
04:05:41.600 --> 04:05:46.800
committed to honoring our professional

5626
04:05:44.160 --> 04:05:49.439
educators uh in all those positions and

5627
04:05:46.800 --> 04:05:51.279
so our ratios can be higher and those

5628
04:05:49.439 --> 04:05:54.080
are trade-offs. But I do want to have

5629
04:05:51.279 --> 04:05:55.600
the data that's transparent and I do

5630
04:05:54.080 --> 04:05:58.080
think we should make a commitment to you

5631
04:05:55.600 --> 04:06:00.239
know being able to report on class size

5632
04:05:58.080 --> 04:06:04.560
on this part on traveling teachers and

5633
04:06:00.239 --> 04:06:06.640
split positions and stuff and uh also on

5634
04:06:04.560 --> 04:06:08.319
um like I I do want to see like I'm

5635
04:06:06.640 --> 04:06:10.399
interested in making these changes so

5636
04:06:08.319 --> 04:06:11.760
that we lose fewer students. So I'd

5637
04:06:10.399 --> 04:06:14.239
really like to know about sort of you

5638
04:06:11.760 --> 04:06:15.840
know the the metriculation patterns of

5639
04:06:14.239 --> 04:06:17.439
how many students we're losing and if

5640
04:06:15.840 --> 04:06:19.199
that goes up or down you know for making

5641
04:06:17.439 --> 04:06:21.279
the experience better. Can you speak to

5642
04:06:19.199 --> 04:06:21.840
that, Emma, or

5643
04:06:21.279 --> 04:06:24.000
anybody?

5644
04:06:21.840 --> 04:06:25.680
>> I would say the specials part uh falls

5645
04:06:24.000 --> 04:06:28.080
under academics and I can pass it over

5646
04:06:25.680 --> 04:06:30.560
to Neil if he has anything to add um for

5647
04:06:28.080 --> 04:06:32.560
for some of the class size um

5648
04:06:30.560 --> 04:06:34.000
particulars. All of this work is the

5649
04:06:32.560 --> 04:06:36.720
work of Aubrey Yay and I'm going to mess

5650
04:06:34.000 --> 04:06:39.040
up her title, but she is specials fine

5651
04:06:36.720 --> 04:06:41.040
performing arts PE extraordinaire and

5652
04:06:39.040 --> 04:06:44.720
she's been tracking this data for a long

5653
04:06:41.040 --> 04:06:46.880
time. Um and so continuing to track it

5654
04:06:44.720 --> 04:06:49.439
in a transparent way won't won't be new

5655
04:06:46.880 --> 04:06:52.399
for her at all. Um and we will just we

5656
04:06:49.439 --> 04:06:54.399
will just continue to do that.

5657
04:06:52.399 --> 04:06:56.640
>> I would just say board members when when

5658
04:06:54.399 --> 04:06:59.760
it comes to transparency that has been a

5659
04:06:56.640 --> 04:07:02.800
value of this board and previous boards.

5660
04:06:59.760 --> 04:07:05.040
It's the reason we have such clear

5661
04:07:02.800 --> 04:07:09.760
dashboards and data on declining

5662
04:07:05.040 --> 04:07:11.840
enrollment on on open enrollment. Um we

5663
04:07:09.760 --> 04:07:14.640
have created and built out at the

5664
04:07:11.840 --> 04:07:16.319
direction of the board I believe one of

5665
04:07:14.640 --> 04:07:19.040
the most transparent systems in the

5666
04:07:16.319 --> 04:07:21.680
entire country in terms of how our

5667
04:07:19.040 --> 04:07:23.199
enrollment looks where it is month by

5668
04:07:21.680 --> 04:07:25.279
month how many kids are coming in how

5669
04:07:23.199 --> 04:07:28.080
many kids are leaving and board members

5670
04:07:25.279 --> 04:07:29.840
you reviewed and approved that and so um

5671
04:07:28.080 --> 04:07:32.880
anything that has to do with

5672
04:07:29.840 --> 04:07:34.720
transparency would be in alignment um

5673
04:07:32.880 --> 04:07:38.000
Alex with the values of this board and

5674
04:07:34.720 --> 04:07:40.880
this this senior team uh and I do think

5675
04:07:38.000 --> 04:07:43.040
that some some visibility into this

5676
04:07:40.880 --> 04:07:45.680
class size and the variability and the

5677
04:07:43.040 --> 04:07:48.399
consistency and the range. Um I think

5678
04:07:45.680 --> 04:07:51.199
that that could be super helpful for

5679
04:07:48.399 --> 04:07:53.279
sure. Um and to the extent that we can

5680
04:07:51.199 --> 04:07:55.680
make that transparent and make that

5681
04:07:53.279 --> 04:07:57.520
clear so the data is not confusing. You

5682
04:07:55.680 --> 04:07:59.279
know sometimes because all of our data

5683
04:07:57.520 --> 04:08:00.800
is dynamic and I think we've run into

5684
04:07:59.279 --> 04:08:02.479
this over the course of the past week.

5685
04:08:00.800 --> 04:08:04.479
you know, where you might somebody might

5686
04:08:02.479 --> 04:08:07.120
by looking at because we're so

5687
04:08:04.479 --> 04:08:09.680
transparent the enrollment numbers for

5688
04:08:07.120 --> 04:08:12.080
last week and we may be using last

5689
04:08:09.680 --> 04:08:13.600
year's October count because that's

5690
04:08:12.080 --> 04:08:15.279
because we know and understand that

5691
04:08:13.600 --> 04:08:16.560
there's a trend in data where the kids

5692
04:08:15.279 --> 04:08:19.359
that are here today, we're going to have

5693
04:08:16.560 --> 04:08:21.680
less kids in October and the ins and

5694
04:08:19.359 --> 04:08:23.760
outs. So I think that we can be clear on

5695
04:08:21.680 --> 04:08:26.640
the data points that we use, our sources

5696
04:08:23.760 --> 04:08:28.560
and systems and um I will always support

5697
04:08:26.640 --> 04:08:30.160
opportunities to be more transparent to

5698
04:08:28.560 --> 04:08:33.960
build the trust in our community that I

5699
04:08:30.160 --> 04:08:33.960
think is really really important.

5700
04:08:34.560 --> 04:08:36.720
>> Yeah.

5701
04:08:35.040 --> 04:08:42.479
>> Yeah. I wanted to turn to special

5702
04:08:36.720 --> 04:08:44.160
education. Um uh I guess um I hear from

5703
04:08:42.479 --> 04:08:46.080
parents of students with disabilities

5704
04:08:44.160 --> 04:08:48.560
who are not always satisfied with our

5705
04:08:46.080 --> 04:08:50.319
district's delivery or that do not

5706
04:08:48.560 --> 04:08:55.040
always find that all the elements of

5707
04:08:50.319 --> 04:08:58.560
their IEP have have been met. So um I I

5708
04:08:55.040 --> 04:09:00.399
do believe that there's when we think

5709
04:08:58.560 --> 04:09:02.080
about the work that starts after

5710
04:09:00.399 --> 04:09:04.160
whatever decision we make, one of the

5711
04:09:02.080 --> 04:09:06.880
big challenges for me is thinking

5712
04:09:04.160 --> 04:09:09.279
through the quality of special education

5713
04:09:06.880 --> 04:09:11.040
programming. I know from previous

5714
04:09:09.279 --> 04:09:13.760
presentations that the placement of our

5715
04:09:11.040 --> 04:09:15.600
ILC's and the balance of the I all the

5716
04:09:13.760 --> 04:09:19.600
different types of ILC's has been taken

5717
04:09:15.600 --> 04:09:21.359
into consideration. Um I do think uh

5718
04:09:19.600 --> 04:09:23.199
that

5719
04:09:21.359 --> 04:09:25.439
um our special education programs need

5720
04:09:23.199 --> 04:09:27.040
to our schools need to be inclusive and

5721
04:09:25.439 --> 04:09:28.880
welcoming and all the students are

5722
04:09:27.040 --> 04:09:31.920
valued and there's a lot of tier one

5723
04:09:28.880 --> 04:09:33.920
work that's not in our ILC's and I think

5724
04:09:31.920 --> 04:09:36.239
we need to do intense transition

5725
04:09:33.920 --> 04:09:37.920
planning and I would like to and I know

5726
04:09:36.239 --> 04:09:39.920
you're going to speak to that later but

5727
04:09:37.920 --> 04:09:41.439
I I think there are circumstances where

5728
04:09:39.920 --> 04:09:43.279
the transition planning around students

5729
04:09:41.439 --> 04:09:46.000
with disabilities is really key and it's

5730
04:09:43.279 --> 04:09:49.199
not just about the ILC. So for like the

5731
04:09:46.000 --> 04:09:51.600
Mesa parents I know who have celebrated

5732
04:09:49.199 --> 04:09:53.040
the inclusive nature for narrow

5733
04:09:51.600 --> 04:09:55.680
affirming care that they believe they're

5734
04:09:53.040 --> 04:09:57.840
getting from Mesa, they think Bear Creek

5735
04:09:55.680 --> 04:09:59.279
is not as good at that. Like the choice

5736
04:09:57.840 --> 04:10:01.680
that they've made to be there instead of

5737
04:09:59.279 --> 04:10:03.920
Bear Creek is based on the judgment,

5738
04:10:01.680 --> 04:10:06.160
right? So I think to the extent Bear

5739
04:10:03.920 --> 04:10:07.600
Creek is absorbing a lot of Mesa parents

5740
04:10:06.160 --> 04:10:09.760
that includes a number of parents of

5741
04:10:07.600 --> 04:10:12.239
kids who are neurodeiverse and have

5742
04:10:09.760 --> 04:10:14.560
special needs and I want to make sure

5743
04:10:12.239 --> 04:10:17.359
that the transition planning of Bear

5744
04:10:14.560 --> 04:10:19.439
Creek is focusing on that challenge and

5745
04:10:17.359 --> 04:10:21.359
I also think that that's an opportunity

5746
04:10:19.439 --> 04:10:24.319
for the community to be engaged like I

5747
04:10:21.359 --> 04:10:26.080
think the sack at uh Bear Creek I would

5748
04:10:24.319 --> 04:10:28.239
challenge them to figure out you know

5749
04:10:26.080 --> 04:10:31.359
what are they going to track in a

5750
04:10:28.239 --> 04:10:32.800
school's UIP over the next 5 years to

5751
04:10:31.359 --> 04:10:35.120
make sure that the school is fulfilling

5752
04:10:32.800 --> 04:10:36.960
a transition to a a pretty universal and

5753
04:10:35.120 --> 04:10:38.880
inclusive approach as well as what

5754
04:10:36.960 --> 04:10:41.199
they're doing with their ILC's.

5755
04:10:38.880 --> 04:10:43.840
Similarly for high peaks I mean I note

5756
04:10:41.199 --> 04:10:45.760
that their rate of students with IEPs uh

5757
04:10:43.840 --> 04:10:49.840
it's within our range but it's lower

5758
04:10:45.760 --> 04:10:52.640
than uh average so like around 10%. So

5759
04:10:49.840 --> 04:10:55.600
and we're around 14%. So as they are

5760
04:10:52.640 --> 04:10:58.640
expanding to a new location, I would

5761
04:10:55.600 --> 04:11:00.880
love to see them be challenged and to do

5762
04:10:58.640 --> 04:11:03.600
program planning and transition planning

5763
04:11:00.880 --> 04:11:05.520
that is designed around pursuing uh

5764
04:11:03.600 --> 04:11:08.319
parody in their enrollment and that

5765
04:11:05.520 --> 04:11:10.880
maybe that would be with an an ILC

5766
04:11:08.319 --> 04:11:12.319
placed there. Um, but to the extent that

5767
04:11:10.880 --> 04:11:14.080
they're going to grow and take a bigger

5768
04:11:12.319 --> 04:11:16.000
responsibility in our district in a

5769
04:11:14.080 --> 04:11:17.600
bigger building with an opportunity to

5770
04:11:16.000 --> 04:11:19.760
grow, I want to make sure that that

5771
04:11:17.600 --> 04:11:20.640
opportunity to grow is for all students,

5772
04:11:19.760 --> 04:11:23.600
including the students with

5773
04:11:20.640 --> 04:11:25.840
disabilities. Likewise, I know that when

5774
04:11:23.600 --> 04:11:27.920
our students um with disabilities open

5775
04:11:25.840 --> 04:11:30.399
enroll in this district, uh they don't

5776
04:11:27.920 --> 04:11:32.560
get equal access to their choices um

5777
04:11:30.399 --> 04:11:33.840
after enrollment in some circumstances

5778
04:11:32.560 --> 04:11:35.279
because of the nature of their kids'

5779
04:11:33.840 --> 04:11:39.040
disability and the way we administer

5780
04:11:35.279 --> 04:11:42.080
that. So I'm I'm advocating that as we

5781
04:11:39.040 --> 04:11:45.600
manage not just the transition planning

5782
04:11:42.080 --> 04:11:47.760
the placement of the ILC's but also uh

5783
04:11:45.600 --> 04:11:51.040
the work that we would do with

5784
04:11:47.760 --> 04:11:54.239
principles and staff on sachs on UIPs

5785
04:11:51.040 --> 04:11:56.479
and stuff that we are cognizant of how

5786
04:11:54.239 --> 04:11:58.080
we're serving all kids and that as we

5787
04:11:56.479 --> 04:12:00.640
create a new equilibrium of open

5788
04:11:58.080 --> 04:12:02.800
enrollment amongst all these changes

5789
04:12:00.640 --> 04:12:05.199
that we are providing to the maximum

5790
04:12:02.800 --> 04:12:06.640
extent possible full access to our kids

5791
04:12:05.199 --> 04:12:09.040
with disabilities. ities or other

5792
04:12:06.640 --> 04:12:11.120
special needs or vulnerable populations

5793
04:12:09.040 --> 04:12:14.720
and not having artifacts of what we do

5794
04:12:11.120 --> 04:12:16.800
that lead to lack of par and access. And

5795
04:12:14.720 --> 04:12:18.399
I think that that's organizational, but

5796
04:12:16.800 --> 04:12:20.880
I also think it's instructional and

5797
04:12:18.399 --> 04:12:25.359
leadership and school-based stuff. So,

5798
04:12:20.880 --> 04:12:27.120
I'd be curious to hear what we can do um

5799
04:12:25.359 --> 04:12:29.279
if this plan were to move forward as

5800
04:12:27.120 --> 04:12:31.760
constructed to try to build to like

5801
04:12:29.279 --> 04:12:33.600
greater parody it uh the new High Peaks

5802
04:12:31.760 --> 04:12:37.040
and to reassure the parents going into

5803
04:12:33.600 --> 04:12:38.560
Bear Creek that this is planned with on

5804
04:12:37.040 --> 04:12:41.880
their behalf of the students who have

5805
04:12:38.560 --> 04:12:41.880
different needs.

5806
04:12:42.000 --> 04:12:43.760
You

5807
04:12:42.239 --> 04:12:47.920
>> shared a lot of things in there, so I'll

5808
04:12:43.760 --> 04:12:50.479
try to touch on as many as I can. Um, I

5809
04:12:47.920 --> 04:12:52.560
do think, um, first I want to say I I

5810
04:12:50.479 --> 04:12:54.239
don't want to minimize the parents who

5811
04:12:52.560 --> 04:12:56.160
have expressed concerns. I think there

5812
04:12:54.239 --> 04:12:58.399
are real concerns and I I certainly know

5813
04:12:56.160 --> 04:12:59.920
that not all of our families are pleased

5814
04:12:58.399 --> 04:13:01.920
with the services their children are

5815
04:12:59.920 --> 04:13:03.600
getting. I hear that all the time. I I

5816
04:13:01.920 --> 04:13:05.199
know that that is true. I'm just also

5817
04:13:03.600 --> 04:13:07.120
honored that parents have come out and

5818
04:13:05.199 --> 04:13:08.720
said that they, you know, really do

5819
04:13:07.120 --> 04:13:10.239
appreciate their programs and that

5820
04:13:08.720 --> 04:13:13.359
they've come out and shared that in this

5821
04:13:10.239 --> 04:13:14.720
process. Um so for some of the things

5822
04:13:13.359 --> 04:13:18.319
that you have said I think we have

5823
04:13:14.720 --> 04:13:20.720
prioritized the con the the needs for

5824
04:13:18.319 --> 04:13:22.239
the students um with those intensive

5825
04:13:20.720 --> 04:13:25.439
learning centers because I think as

5826
04:13:22.239 --> 04:13:27.680
we've sort of analyzed um who is mostly

5827
04:13:25.439 --> 04:13:30.080
impacted I think that's sort of the the

5828
04:13:27.680 --> 04:13:33.120
acute need right on the the forefront of

5829
04:13:30.080 --> 04:13:35.920
this um I think one of the values that

5830
04:13:33.120 --> 04:13:38.239
we've had in this has been that if a

5831
04:13:35.920 --> 04:13:40.159
school is going to to move or be

5832
04:13:38.239 --> 04:13:41.600
consolidated or closed right that our

5833
04:13:40.159 --> 04:13:44.159
students with disab disabilities are a

5834
04:13:41.600 --> 04:13:46.000
part of that process, right? That they

5835
04:13:44.159 --> 04:13:47.760
belong, that they're a part of that

5836
04:13:46.000 --> 04:13:50.159
community and we're thinking of them as

5837
04:13:47.760 --> 04:13:52.960
general ed students first. And so when

5838
04:13:50.159 --> 04:13:54.800
you talk about that um that community

5839
04:13:52.960 --> 04:13:56.479
again, we've been prioritizing the

5840
04:13:54.800 --> 04:14:00.000
intensive learning center because I

5841
04:13:56.479 --> 04:14:01.439
think sometimes they're um not just

5842
04:14:00.000 --> 04:14:02.720
sometimes, I think in a lot of the

5843
04:14:01.439 --> 04:14:04.479
conversations in a lot of other

5844
04:14:02.720 --> 04:14:06.239
districts, it's been okay, the school's

5845
04:14:04.479 --> 04:14:08.399
moving over here, the intensive learning

5846
04:14:06.239 --> 04:14:10.159
center program is moving over here. So,

5847
04:14:08.399 --> 04:14:11.920
a lot of our conversation has focused

5848
04:14:10.159 --> 04:14:13.760
there and you you're asking a good

5849
04:14:11.920 --> 04:14:15.840
question about but how are we also

5850
04:14:13.760 --> 04:14:19.840
thinking about um maybe our students

5851
04:14:15.840 --> 04:14:22.000
with mild and moderate needs. Um so I

5852
04:14:19.840 --> 04:14:24.000
think that work is is absolutely a part

5853
04:14:22.000 --> 04:14:26.159
of this. It needs to come and it hasn't

5854
04:14:24.000 --> 04:14:27.359
been a lot of the work we've done yet. I

5855
04:14:26.159 --> 04:14:28.399
think the things that we would be

5856
04:14:27.359 --> 04:14:29.520
thinking about are just some of the

5857
04:14:28.399 --> 04:14:31.359
things that you've said. How are we

5858
04:14:29.520 --> 04:14:32.640
engaging sex? How are we engaging

5859
04:14:31.359 --> 04:14:34.319
principles? How are we engaging

5860
04:14:32.640 --> 04:14:37.359
students? I think student voice is

5861
04:14:34.319 --> 04:14:40.000
important in this. um we haven't sort of

5862
04:14:37.359 --> 04:14:43.199
laid out those plans. We haven't um

5863
04:14:40.000 --> 04:14:44.880
thought as much about that. Um but I

5864
04:14:43.199 --> 04:14:46.880
think that is important in this process

5865
04:14:44.880 --> 04:14:50.080
for our sort of mild moderate resource

5866
04:14:46.880 --> 04:14:51.520
level students. Um in terms of high

5867
04:14:50.080 --> 04:14:54.640
peaks because you mentioned that

5868
04:14:51.520 --> 04:14:56.960
specifically um their numbers are going

5869
04:14:54.640 --> 04:14:58.720
to grow, right? And as we talked about

5870
04:14:56.960 --> 04:15:04.720
today, I think that's what we anticipate

5871
04:14:58.720 --> 04:15:06.720
with um this proposal. And so, um, by by

5872
04:15:04.720 --> 04:15:08.399
that in and of itself, we have to be

5873
04:15:06.720 --> 04:15:10.239
talking about what that looks like.

5874
04:15:08.399 --> 04:15:12.560
Right now, they're a school who has very

5875
04:15:10.239 --> 04:15:15.680
little special ed services because their

5876
04:15:12.560 --> 04:15:17.439
numbers are small. So, part of the the

5877
04:15:15.680 --> 04:15:19.279
plan for next steps. If we're planning

5878
04:15:17.439 --> 04:15:21.760
for their numbers to grow as a school,

5879
04:15:19.279 --> 04:15:23.600
we need to be planning for then what are

5880
04:15:21.760 --> 04:15:24.800
the increases in services? What does

5881
04:15:23.600 --> 04:15:28.080
that look like for students with

5882
04:15:24.800 --> 04:15:29.840
disabilities? if you're increasing

5883
04:15:28.080 --> 04:15:31.439
um the number of students with special

5884
04:15:29.840 --> 04:15:34.239
needs, you need to have a plan for that.

5885
04:15:31.439 --> 04:15:37.120
So, that has been in in the forefront of

5886
04:15:34.239 --> 04:15:39.199
my mind if this is um the plan that goes

5887
04:15:37.120 --> 04:15:41.600
through. Right now, they have a

5888
04:15:39.199 --> 04:15:43.359
half-time specialed teacher. They need

5889
04:15:41.600 --> 04:15:45.439
to have more special ed services with

5890
04:15:43.359 --> 04:15:46.720
more students. Um so, there's a lot of

5891
04:15:45.439 --> 04:15:48.159
discussion and thinking about what that

5892
04:15:46.720 --> 04:15:50.479
looks like. They're going to then need

5893
04:15:48.159 --> 04:15:53.760
to plan for more students with intensive

5894
04:15:50.479 --> 04:15:55.439
needs. that is just as much work um as

5895
04:15:53.760 --> 04:15:57.279
any other part of the plan that I think

5896
04:15:55.439 --> 04:16:00.560
we're proposing. So I think that gets to

5897
04:15:57.279 --> 04:16:02.159
the parody that you're thinking of. Um

5898
04:16:00.560 --> 04:16:03.920
maybe not all the way there, but it's a

5899
04:16:02.159 --> 04:16:07.520
part of the plan and process that we

5900
04:16:03.920 --> 04:16:08.880
need to be thinking about. Um and and

5901
04:16:07.520 --> 04:16:10.000
this is more district-wide. It's not

5902
04:16:08.880 --> 04:16:11.520
necessarily part of the resilient

5903
04:16:10.000 --> 04:16:13.439
schools, but I I think a lot about the

5904
04:16:11.520 --> 04:16:15.359
parody of access and the work the

5905
04:16:13.439 --> 04:16:16.880
board's been doing around um charter

5906
04:16:15.359 --> 04:16:18.319
school agreements and things like that.

5907
04:16:16.880 --> 04:16:19.840
So I think that is a part of the

5908
04:16:18.319 --> 04:16:22.080
holistic work that we need to be

5909
04:16:19.840 --> 04:16:24.080
thinking about as a district.

5910
04:16:22.080 --> 04:16:28.239
Um I also just want to comment back to

5911
04:16:24.080 --> 04:16:29.520
the the um sort of 504 thing we were

5912
04:16:28.239 --> 04:16:30.960
talking about because I I think I missed

5913
04:16:29.520 --> 04:16:32.880
the mark a little bit on the comments

5914
04:16:30.960 --> 04:16:35.920
that I made and I just want to say

5915
04:16:32.880 --> 04:16:38.000
because I think it relates to this um

5916
04:16:35.920 --> 04:16:40.800
the I think what some of the families

5917
04:16:38.000 --> 04:16:43.439
are maybe worried about is the open

5918
04:16:40.800 --> 04:16:46.080
school concept for some of the the

5919
04:16:43.439 --> 04:16:48.000
buildings that we're talking about. Um,

5920
04:16:46.080 --> 04:16:49.680
so there is a piece of walking the

5921
04:16:48.000 --> 04:16:52.000
buildings. There is a piece about

5922
04:16:49.680 --> 04:16:55.760
thinking about access and what we need

5923
04:16:52.000 --> 04:16:57.359
to do as we're designing space. Um,

5924
04:16:55.760 --> 04:16:59.840
there is a piece about implementing

5925
04:16:57.359 --> 04:17:01.840
students accommodations. Um, I think

5926
04:16:59.840 --> 04:17:03.279
there is a piece about communicating to

5927
04:17:01.840 --> 04:17:05.040
families that haven't been in those

5928
04:17:03.279 --> 04:17:07.040
schools before because we've had

5929
04:17:05.040 --> 04:17:08.960
programs in those schools. We've had

5930
04:17:07.040 --> 04:17:10.239
autism programs with students with very

5931
04:17:08.960 --> 04:17:12.720
intensive needs and they've been

5932
04:17:10.239 --> 04:17:16.560
incredibly successful in open schools

5933
04:17:12.720 --> 04:17:18.640
before. Um, and it's I think it's um I

5934
04:17:16.560 --> 04:17:19.920
think families are right to worry if

5935
04:17:18.640 --> 04:17:22.560
they haven't been in those schools

5936
04:17:19.920 --> 04:17:24.239
before and we have lots of students

5937
04:17:22.560 --> 04:17:25.439
who've been incredibly successful there.

5938
04:17:24.239 --> 04:17:28.720
So, I'd love to talk with those

5939
04:17:25.439 --> 04:17:30.239
families. We also have um options for

5940
04:17:28.720 --> 04:17:31.439
school choice for families that don't

5941
04:17:30.239 --> 04:17:33.760
feel like that's going to be the right

5942
04:17:31.439 --> 04:17:35.920
fit. So, I think the conversations, the

5943
04:17:33.760 --> 04:17:37.840
walkthroughs, the looking at what

5944
04:17:35.920 --> 04:17:39.600
students are what are in the students

5945
04:17:37.840 --> 04:17:41.920
plans to make sure that they are

5946
04:17:39.600 --> 04:17:43.279
designed and appropriately fit. Um, and

5947
04:17:41.920 --> 04:17:44.880
then also talking with families about

5948
04:17:43.279 --> 04:17:46.399
what the choices are if they feel like

5949
04:17:44.880 --> 04:17:48.720
that's not going to be the right fit

5950
04:17:46.399 --> 04:17:51.600
because it's those things with sensory

5951
04:17:48.720 --> 04:17:53.680
um, how how their sounds and sensory

5952
04:17:51.600 --> 04:17:55.600
things work in those open concept

5953
04:17:53.680 --> 04:17:58.080
schools that I imagine are the concerns.

5954
04:17:55.600 --> 04:17:59.600
We know that works for many students and

5955
04:17:58.080 --> 04:18:02.000
I can see those questions and how

5956
04:17:59.600 --> 04:18:04.560
they're coming up.

5957
04:18:02.000 --> 04:18:07.199
>> Thank you, Michelle.

5958
04:18:04.560 --> 04:18:09.120
>> Okay, board members, it is time for a

5959
04:18:07.199 --> 04:18:11.120
comfort break. Lunch has also been

5960
04:18:09.120 --> 04:18:14.640
served. Should you want to um grab a

5961
04:18:11.120 --> 04:18:17.279
bite to eat, let's say 15 minutes. Does

5962
04:18:14.640 --> 04:18:18.560
that sound 10 to 15 minutes to come back

5963
04:18:17.279 --> 04:18:19.840
here? You're welcome to bring food.

5964
04:18:18.560 --> 04:18:21.600
Staff likewise. If you would like to

5965
04:18:19.840 --> 04:18:25.199
bring food back out, you um definitely

5966
04:18:21.600 --> 04:18:29.199
can do that. So, we will um reconvene at

5967
04:18:25.199 --> 04:18:32.520
roughly quarter after. Um but

5968
04:18:29.199 --> 04:18:32.520
stay tuned.

5969
04:38:42.639 --> 04:38:46.719
Welcome back everyone. Just as a

5970
04:38:44.879 --> 04:38:48.400
reminder to the folks in the audience,

5971
04:38:46.719 --> 04:38:51.199
try to keep conversations at a minimum

5972
04:38:48.400 --> 04:38:53.439
and if you can't, please move yourself

5973
04:38:51.199 --> 04:38:55.359
to the back of the audience so we can

5974
04:38:53.439 --> 04:38:57.279
hear up here.

5975
04:38:55.359 --> 04:38:59.520
With that, we will resume our

5976
04:38:57.279 --> 04:39:00.719
conversations. Um, starting with

5977
04:38:59.520 --> 04:39:01.520
transportation. I will turn it over to

5978
04:39:00.719 --> 04:39:04.000
Rob Price.

5979
04:39:01.520 --> 04:39:06.799
>> Perfect. Thank you, President Rushball.

5980
04:39:04.000 --> 04:39:09.039
We still have 19 slides to go, so some

5981
04:39:06.799 --> 04:39:12.160
of these uh I'll do a quick hitter on,

5982
04:39:09.039 --> 04:39:14.799
but uh to answer board member Medler's

5983
04:39:12.160 --> 04:39:16.879
question from earlier this morning, uh

5984
04:39:14.799 --> 04:39:20.320
transportation survey results done in

5985
04:39:16.879 --> 04:39:23.039
December of 25, we had 14,700

5986
04:39:20.320 --> 04:39:28.000
respondents. 23% walk and bike to

5987
04:39:23.039 --> 04:39:31.760
school. Uh 23% walk and bike to school.

5988
04:39:28.000 --> 04:39:36.240
18% ride the school bus. 50% take the

5989
04:39:31.760 --> 04:39:38.798
family car, 3% car pool, 4% RTD. I just

5990
04:39:36.240 --> 04:39:41.280
want to say our 23% walk and bike is

5991
04:39:38.798 --> 04:39:42.718
double the national average. That was a

5992
04:39:41.280 --> 04:39:44.480
community priority. We heard through

5993
04:39:42.718 --> 04:39:45.840
community engagement sessions and a

5994
04:39:44.480 --> 04:39:48.000
priority of the board as we were

5995
04:39:45.840 --> 04:39:49.520
developing our proposal. All right. So,

5996
04:39:48.000 --> 04:39:51.440
I'm going to get into transportation.

5997
04:39:49.520 --> 04:39:53.120
I'm going to ground us in board policy.

5998
04:39:51.440 --> 04:39:54.480
Eligible students will receive

5999
04:39:53.120 --> 04:39:56.798
transportation to the assigned

6000
04:39:54.480 --> 04:40:00.320
neighborhood school. The eligibility

6001
04:39:56.798 --> 04:40:03.440
criteria is elementary 1 and a half

6002
04:40:00.320 --> 04:40:05.440
miles, middle school uh two plus miles,

6003
04:40:03.440 --> 04:40:07.600
and high school 2 and a half miles.

6004
04:40:05.440 --> 04:40:10.480
There were some comments at public uh at

6005
04:40:07.600 --> 04:40:12.958
the September 8th meeting, how is that

6006
04:40:10.480 --> 04:40:14.718
measured? There's language on this slide

6007
04:40:12.958 --> 04:40:17.040
also in board policy how that's

6008
04:40:14.718 --> 04:40:18.718
measured. And then when we're going

6009
04:40:17.040 --> 04:40:20.480
through some of these different

6010
04:40:18.718 --> 04:40:23.520
attendance boundary adjustments, we'll

6011
04:40:20.480 --> 04:40:25.200
talk about when there's a hazard, how is

6012
04:40:23.520 --> 04:40:28.240
that applied and when does

6013
04:40:25.200 --> 04:40:31.280
transportation become applicable. So, as

6014
04:40:28.240 --> 04:40:33.280
we go to the next slide, I have included

6015
04:40:31.280 --> 04:40:35.280
attachments for all of the attendance

6016
04:40:33.280 --> 04:40:37.760
boundary adjustments. This first one

6017
04:40:35.280 --> 04:40:39.760
being Cole. Again, I'm not going to get

6018
04:40:37.760 --> 04:40:42.400
into the specifics of every single one

6019
04:40:39.760 --> 04:40:45.280
unless you want me to. So, but I'm happy

6020
04:40:42.400 --> 04:40:47.200
to if you need me to. Cole Elementary.

6021
04:40:45.280 --> 04:40:50.000
This is showing Cole and Burch's

6022
04:40:47.200 --> 04:40:52.000
attendance area combined. Students east

6023
04:40:50.000 --> 04:40:54.480
of Main Street will receive

6024
04:40:52.000 --> 04:40:56.240
transportation in this scenario. We

6025
04:40:54.480 --> 04:40:59.440
considered Main Street a hazardous

6026
04:40:56.240 --> 04:41:02.080
street. Even though we do have several

6027
04:40:59.440 --> 04:41:03.680
biking, walking assets across there. You

6028
04:41:02.080 --> 04:41:06.320
can see we have a traffic light with

6029
04:41:03.680 --> 04:41:08.160
signals at Maine and Engle. Uh Maine and

6030
04:41:06.320 --> 04:41:10.160
136. We have a new light at Maine and

6031
04:41:08.160 --> 04:41:13.200
Marramont. We have a crosswalk at Maine

6032
04:41:10.160 --> 04:41:15.280
and 14th. However, we are still uh

6033
04:41:13.200 --> 04:41:18.718
providing transportation anyone that

6034
04:41:15.280 --> 04:41:22.840
lives east of Main Street and attends

6035
04:41:18.718 --> 04:41:22.840
Cole Elementary School.

6036
04:41:22.958 --> 04:41:27.440
As we look at Elorado, this is the

6037
04:41:25.440 --> 04:41:30.240
second uh proposed attendance boundary

6038
04:41:27.440 --> 04:41:32.320
adjustments. Um as it pertains to Eldo,

6039
04:41:30.240 --> 04:41:34.160
students north of Colton Road will

6040
04:41:32.320 --> 04:41:36.798
receive transportation. And then as

6041
04:41:34.160 --> 04:41:38.878
shown below, you can see all of the

6042
04:41:36.798 --> 04:41:41.360
different walking and biking assets that

6043
04:41:38.878 --> 04:41:44.080
would allow students to walk and bike to

6044
04:41:41.360 --> 04:41:46.160
El Dorado. Again, I'm not going to go

6045
04:41:44.080 --> 04:41:48.480
through each one of these, but again, uh

6046
04:41:46.160 --> 04:41:50.878
here is another one for Superior.

6047
04:41:48.480 --> 04:41:53.440
Students north of Vista Corridor Trail

6048
04:41:50.878 --> 04:41:55.200
will receive a transportation.

6049
04:41:53.440 --> 04:41:56.878
If you live in this area, you know where

6050
04:41:55.200 --> 04:41:59.200
that exists. That is not shown on this

6051
04:41:56.878 --> 04:42:01.680
map. And then again, all of the

6052
04:41:59.200 --> 04:42:04.080
different walking and biking assets to

6053
04:42:01.680 --> 04:42:06.718
Superior that would allow students to

6054
04:42:04.080 --> 04:42:09.840
walk and bike safely uh to Superior

6055
04:42:06.718 --> 04:42:12.798
Elementary. I'm going to stop there, but

6056
04:42:09.840 --> 04:42:14.878
you can see we have included these for

6057
04:42:12.798 --> 04:42:17.600
each one of the attendance boundary

6058
04:42:14.878 --> 04:42:20.958
adjustments with specific language on

6059
04:42:17.600 --> 04:42:23.440
the right hand side.

6060
04:42:20.958 --> 04:42:26.080
I'm happy to address any questions, but

6061
04:42:23.440 --> 04:42:29.280
I do believe this answers the board's

6062
04:42:26.080 --> 04:42:31.120
comments at our August 25th meeting and

6063
04:42:29.280 --> 04:42:36.000
then some of the community feedback that

6064
04:42:31.120 --> 04:42:37.520
we re we have received since then.

6065
04:42:36.000 --> 04:42:41.040
>> Anna

6066
04:42:37.520 --> 04:42:45.040
on and you spoke to this earlier on the

6067
04:42:41.040 --> 04:42:47.680
congestion um from for the families

6068
04:42:45.040 --> 04:42:50.000
driving from Birch to Cole. Um, and I

6069
04:42:47.680 --> 04:42:51.680
know that you've spoken to um,

6070
04:42:50.000 --> 04:42:54.160
Broomfield City Council and the city

6071
04:42:51.680 --> 04:42:57.760
manager. Has there been, did they raise

6072
04:42:54.160 --> 04:43:01.280
any um, sort of um, traffic congestion

6073
04:42:57.760 --> 04:43:03.760
concerns? And can you also talk us

6074
04:43:01.280 --> 04:43:07.440
through start times one more time?

6075
04:43:03.760 --> 04:43:09.440
>> Yep. Um, no, no one has mentioned uh,

6076
04:43:07.440 --> 04:43:11.120
concerns with traffic congestion. We

6077
04:43:09.440 --> 04:43:13.680
haven't got into that level of detail

6078
04:43:11.120 --> 04:43:16.000
though with either the city manager or

6079
04:43:13.680 --> 04:43:18.400
uh, the city and county of Broomfield.

6080
04:43:16.000 --> 04:43:21.040
Um, looking at start times, elementary

6081
04:43:18.400 --> 04:43:24.080
start times are at 7:50 in the morning.

6082
04:43:21.040 --> 04:43:26.000
The high school starts at 8:35 and I

6083
04:43:24.080 --> 04:43:28.718
believe Broomfield Heights Middle School

6084
04:43:26.000 --> 04:43:30.320
starts at 8:45. I need to confirm

6085
04:43:28.718 --> 04:43:32.160
Broomfield Heights Middle School, but we

6086
04:43:30.320 --> 04:43:34.798
have enough separation between those

6087
04:43:32.160 --> 04:43:37.520
bell times that will allow traffic to

6088
04:43:34.798 --> 04:43:41.000
cue, leave, high school traffic to come

6089
04:43:37.520 --> 04:43:41.000
in, etc.

6090
04:43:42.798 --> 04:43:47.760
I appreciate the detail or the attention

6091
04:43:44.958 --> 04:43:49.840
to detail on this and just like an

6092
04:43:47.760 --> 04:43:51.920
emphasis for the community whenever

6093
04:43:49.840 --> 04:43:54.718
there are hazards like safe routes to

6094
04:43:51.920 --> 04:43:56.480
school has been around for a long time

6095
04:43:54.718 --> 04:43:59.840
working with localities as different

6096
04:43:56.480 --> 04:44:01.840
areas become more busy due to

6097
04:43:59.840 --> 04:44:03.760
development or what have you trying to

6098
04:44:01.840 --> 04:44:07.120
find safe passages for students and then

6099
04:44:03.760 --> 04:44:09.280
when this district cannot if they cannot

6100
04:44:07.120 --> 04:44:11.840
we do provide busing I think Broadway is

6101
04:44:09.280 --> 04:44:14.240
a really great example We don't ask our

6102
04:44:11.840 --> 04:44:16.240
youngest students to cross Broadway

6103
04:44:14.240 --> 04:44:17.840
because it can be hazardous. Some places

6104
04:44:16.240 --> 04:44:19.520
underpasses have been put in, some

6105
04:44:17.840 --> 04:44:21.600
places underpasses have not been able to

6106
04:44:19.520 --> 04:44:23.360
be put in. So like safe routes to school

6107
04:44:21.600 --> 04:44:26.160
does a really great job working with

6108
04:44:23.360 --> 04:44:27.760
family concerns, working with our

6109
04:44:26.160 --> 04:44:30.638
transportation department, localities,

6110
04:44:27.760 --> 04:44:32.480
and I would expect with this change, I

6111
04:44:30.638 --> 04:44:34.480
mean like it's a wellestablished process

6112
04:44:32.480 --> 04:44:37.718
to make sure our kids are getting to

6113
04:44:34.480 --> 04:44:37.718
school safely.

6114
04:44:38.638 --> 04:44:41.638
Millennium,

6115
04:44:44.320 --> 04:44:51.680
>> thank you. Um, I

6116
04:44:47.920 --> 04:44:54.560
appreciate slide number 47 where we

6117
04:44:51.680 --> 04:44:56.400
address the students in Paul no

6118
04:44:54.560 --> 04:45:00.600
neighborhood.

6119
04:44:56.400 --> 04:45:00.600
um because they were

6120
04:45:01.200 --> 04:45:06.080
within the walk zone for Douglas and I

6121
04:45:04.080 --> 04:45:07.840
think they might have been having some

6122
04:45:06.080 --> 04:45:10.080
challenges with bus service in that

6123
04:45:07.840 --> 04:45:12.080
neighborhood generally and I don't I

6124
04:45:10.080 --> 04:45:14.320
don't know the particulars of that but

6125
04:45:12.080 --> 04:45:18.760
I'm happy to see it called out here that

6126
04:45:14.320 --> 04:45:18.760
there will be bus service.

6127
04:45:21.440 --> 04:45:24.560
Jason,

6128
04:45:23.040 --> 04:45:26.320
>> this is not so much of a transportation

6129
04:45:24.560 --> 04:45:29.200
question, but because we have the maps

6130
04:45:26.320 --> 04:45:30.958
and the um the new zones, I'm wondering

6131
04:45:29.200 --> 04:45:32.798
if you could answer a question about,

6132
04:45:30.958 --> 04:45:34.560
you know, a lot of families that are

6133
04:45:32.798 --> 04:45:38.000
currently at Flat Irons have talked a

6134
04:45:34.560 --> 04:45:39.840
lot about this this splits their kids u

6135
04:45:38.000 --> 04:45:42.080
and there is a split. You know, some go

6136
04:45:39.840 --> 04:45:43.200
to Foothill and some go, you know, the

6137
04:45:42.080 --> 04:45:46.480
majority, I would imagine, go to

6138
04:45:43.200 --> 04:45:48.080
Whittier. Um, but as I see this, I it

6139
04:45:46.480 --> 04:45:50.718
looks like it's really the impact is

6140
04:45:48.080 --> 04:45:52.000
really on uh students that are currently

6141
04:45:50.718 --> 04:45:55.280
or students that live at the mountain

6142
04:45:52.000 --> 04:45:57.600
communities. Do you have a kind of sense

6143
04:45:55.280 --> 04:45:59.520
of percentage- wise like what number of

6144
04:45:57.600 --> 04:46:01.280
kids would be zoned that are currently

6145
04:45:59.520 --> 04:46:05.040
at Flat Irons would be zoned to go to

6146
04:46:01.280 --> 04:46:06.480
Woodier versus Foothill? It it just from

6147
04:46:05.040 --> 04:46:08.718
looking at the maps it would seem like a

6148
04:46:06.480 --> 04:46:11.680
vast majority arena up at Woodier. So

6149
04:46:08.718 --> 04:46:14.000
the the concern that the kids are split

6150
04:46:11.680 --> 04:46:16.480
in half I think is are not accurate but

6151
04:46:14.000 --> 04:46:18.560
if you

6152
04:46:16.480 --> 04:46:19.920
>> the sorry about that didn't

6153
04:46:18.560 --> 04:46:21.440
>> I know this transportation but it's

6154
04:46:19.920 --> 04:46:23.680
first you know time

6155
04:46:21.440 --> 04:46:25.440
>> I will we'll have to go back to the

6156
04:46:23.680 --> 04:46:29.120
original slide deck we presented to you

6157
04:46:25.440 --> 04:46:31.200
on uh August 25th but you can see here

6158
04:46:29.120 --> 04:46:34.080
the majority of our students that are

6159
04:46:31.200 --> 04:46:36.320
living central into Boulder are feeding

6160
04:46:34.080 --> 04:46:39.120
in to Whittier. It's our mountain

6161
04:46:36.320 --> 04:46:40.400
communities that have split that are now

6162
04:46:39.120 --> 04:46:42.160
some of those mountain community

6163
04:46:40.400 --> 04:46:45.520
students are going to Foothill and

6164
04:46:42.160 --> 04:46:47.040
others are going to Whittier. So that

6165
04:46:45.520 --> 04:46:48.878
that's the answer, but I'd have to look

6166
04:46:47.040 --> 04:46:50.560
at individual numbers uh that were

6167
04:46:48.878 --> 04:46:53.560
provided in our August 25th

6168
04:46:50.560 --> 04:46:53.560
presentation.

6169
04:46:56.878 --> 04:47:01.360
Any other questions on this before I

6170
04:46:58.798 --> 04:47:02.240
move on?

6171
04:47:01.360 --> 04:47:05.760
>> Alex.

6172
04:47:02.240 --> 04:47:08.000
>> Yeah. um uh Netherlands in my district

6173
04:47:05.760 --> 04:47:09.520
and uh people have talked about the

6174
04:47:08.000 --> 04:47:11.440
transportation being similar to the

6175
04:47:09.520 --> 04:47:14.400
mountains, but I look up at Netherland

6176
04:47:11.440 --> 04:47:16.480
and I'm like, okay, well, how how far is

6177
04:47:14.400 --> 04:47:18.878
the next school from Netherland

6178
04:47:16.480 --> 04:47:21.200
Elementary for someone who's choosing as

6179
04:47:18.878 --> 04:47:23.840
opposed to some of our other schools?

6180
04:47:21.200 --> 04:47:25.040
Like it's like 20 miles, right? Yes,

6181
04:47:23.840 --> 04:47:26.878
>> if they're not going if they're not

6182
04:47:25.040 --> 04:47:28.560
going to Ned, they're going up and down

6183
04:47:26.878 --> 04:47:31.920
a mountain canyon

6184
04:47:28.560 --> 04:47:34.400
>> uh where winter happens um more than 20

6185
04:47:31.920 --> 04:47:37.600
miles, right? So, I just I just think

6186
04:47:34.400 --> 04:47:40.480
that is not similar to our more

6187
04:47:37.600 --> 04:47:42.240
desperate uh less dense parts on the

6188
04:47:40.480 --> 04:47:45.560
flats.

6189
04:47:42.240 --> 04:47:45.560
True statement.

6190
04:47:48.958 --> 04:47:53.600
Okay.

6191
04:47:51.040 --> 04:47:55.280
All right. Just addressing some of the

6192
04:47:53.600 --> 04:47:57.120
other questions that have came up

6193
04:47:55.280 --> 04:47:59.280
through community engagement, emails,

6194
04:47:57.120 --> 04:48:01.600
core requests, etc. A few people have

6195
04:47:59.280 --> 04:48:03.760
brought up asbestous in our buildings.

6196
04:48:01.600 --> 04:48:06.080
Um, I am not the first one to tell you

6197
04:48:03.760 --> 04:48:08.000
asbests containing materials exists in

6198
04:48:06.080 --> 04:48:10.480
our schools, in several of our schools

6199
04:48:08.000 --> 04:48:12.560
and mainly in our older buildings. Uh,

6200
04:48:10.480 --> 04:48:14.560
their presence does not mean that a

6201
04:48:12.560 --> 04:48:17.360
school is unsafe.

6202
04:48:14.560 --> 04:48:19.200
uh their presence is really about us

6203
04:48:17.360 --> 04:48:21.440
making sure they remain and they are

6204
04:48:19.200 --> 04:48:24.958
intact and they are safely managed in

6205
04:48:21.440 --> 04:48:27.200
place. So each school has a uh asbestous

6206
04:48:24.958 --> 04:48:30.080
management plan identifying all known

6207
04:48:27.200 --> 04:48:32.480
asbesus containing materials. Our

6208
04:48:30.080 --> 04:48:34.240
environmental team conducts uh

6209
04:48:32.480 --> 04:48:37.760
surveillance inspections every six

6210
04:48:34.240 --> 04:48:40.240
months and then a more comprehensive re

6211
04:48:37.760 --> 04:48:43.040
reinspection every 3 years using

6212
04:48:40.240 --> 04:48:45.520
qualified certified staff. And that is

6213
04:48:43.040 --> 04:48:47.520
really a big difference uh between what

6214
04:48:45.520 --> 04:48:49.200
we do and some others and how other

6215
04:48:47.520 --> 04:48:52.000
districts handle this. Those

6216
04:48:49.200 --> 04:48:54.638
reinspections can happen with custodial

6217
04:48:52.000 --> 04:48:56.560
staff, other staff. We have two people

6218
04:48:54.638 --> 04:48:59.360
on our environmental team that do all of

6219
04:48:56.560 --> 04:49:00.798
our uh six-month inspections and our

6220
04:48:59.360 --> 04:49:02.560
three-year inspections. They are

6221
04:49:00.798 --> 04:49:05.440
qualified. Again, they are certified to

6222
04:49:02.560 --> 04:49:06.560
do this work. Um, I would just emphasize

6223
04:49:05.440 --> 04:49:09.280
and I'm going to say this a couple

6224
04:49:06.560 --> 04:49:11.600
times. We have no known

6225
04:49:09.280 --> 04:49:15.360
asbesus related safety concerns in any

6226
04:49:11.600 --> 04:49:17.200
of our schools. We have no known asbesus

6227
04:49:15.360 --> 04:49:19.280
related safety concerns in any of our

6228
04:49:17.200 --> 04:49:21.200
schools. We would not have kids in our

6229
04:49:19.280 --> 04:49:24.080
buildings if we had known safety

6230
04:49:21.200 --> 04:49:27.120
concerns. I just there's a message out

6231
04:49:24.080 --> 04:49:30.718
there. Um, in no way would we ever do

6232
04:49:27.120 --> 04:49:32.798
that. So, I can't emphasize that enough.

6233
04:49:30.718 --> 04:49:35.600
Uh we're responding to Colorado open

6234
04:49:32.798 --> 04:49:38.160
records request ask as quickly as we can

6235
04:49:35.600 --> 04:49:40.878
and we will ensure transparency with our

6236
04:49:38.160 --> 04:49:44.400
community as we respond to those. Um but

6237
04:49:40.878 --> 04:49:47.200
I will uh continue to emphasize that and

6238
04:49:44.400 --> 04:49:50.080
uh we take a lot of pride on our

6239
04:49:47.200 --> 04:49:52.160
buildings being safe, being healthy. Um

6240
04:49:50.080 --> 04:49:54.400
and we have spent years in doing that.

6241
04:49:52.160 --> 04:49:59.040
So that's a false statement that is out

6242
04:49:54.400 --> 04:50:00.638
there. Um, as we look at the Boulder

6243
04:49:59.040 --> 04:50:02.560
comprehensive

6244
04:50:00.638 --> 04:50:04.000
uh plan, I think we've talked about this

6245
04:50:02.560 --> 04:50:06.400
in depth. I don't know if we need to go

6246
04:50:04.000 --> 04:50:08.958
into any more detail on this. We have

6247
04:50:06.400 --> 04:50:12.560
had conversations with uh the city of

6248
04:50:08.958 --> 04:50:14.878
Boulder on their comp plan. Um, it's

6249
04:50:12.560 --> 04:50:16.480
great. Uh, Superiors went through

6250
04:50:14.878 --> 04:50:18.638
something similar. Lewisville has went

6251
04:50:16.480 --> 04:50:20.638
through something similar. Uh, Boulder

6252
04:50:18.638 --> 04:50:22.320
has done this. Boulder County. We hope

6253
04:50:20.638 --> 04:50:24.160
that it makes a meaningful long-term

6254
04:50:22.320 --> 04:50:25.600
difference for our communities, that we

6255
04:50:24.160 --> 04:50:28.320
have more affordable housing, that we

6256
04:50:25.600 --> 04:50:30.320
see uh more uh children in our

6257
04:50:28.320 --> 04:50:32.320
community. That is all we hope for.

6258
04:50:30.320 --> 04:50:34.000
However, we don't feel like this is

6259
04:50:32.320 --> 04:50:36.878
going to fix declining enrollment in the

6260
04:50:34.000 --> 04:50:38.878
near future. So, I'll just say that uh

6261
04:50:36.878 --> 04:50:41.760
there is something in the comp plan that

6262
04:50:38.878 --> 04:50:43.520
talks about a 15 minute 15minute

6263
04:50:41.760 --> 04:50:48.000
neighborhood. We do meet that

6264
04:50:43.520 --> 04:50:50.560
expectation. So, just want to emphasize

6265
04:50:48.000 --> 04:50:53.040
um that work.

6266
04:50:50.560 --> 04:50:55.840
That really concludes uh today's

6267
04:50:53.040 --> 04:50:58.000
presentation. I believe we do have the

6268
04:50:55.840 --> 04:51:00.798
resolution that has been presented to

6269
04:50:58.000 --> 04:51:03.440
the board. It has two red lines. Uh

6270
04:51:00.798 --> 04:51:06.480
there was a comment at the last board

6271
04:51:03.440 --> 04:51:08.480
meeting to affirm the community's desire

6272
04:51:06.480 --> 04:51:10.560
to maintain a variety of educational

6273
04:51:08.480 --> 04:51:12.638
models through BBSD focused schools.

6274
04:51:10.560 --> 04:51:14.480
That language has been added. And then

6275
04:51:12.638 --> 04:51:16.240
there was another statement about school

6276
04:51:14.480 --> 04:51:18.000
age care and that statement has been

6277
04:51:16.240 --> 04:51:20.480
added in both our red lines and the

6278
04:51:18.000 --> 04:51:22.400
resolution. Um with that I would open it

6279
04:51:20.480 --> 04:51:24.320
up for conversation. No

6280
04:51:22.400 --> 04:51:25.840
>> I just wanted to because we talked a

6281
04:51:24.320 --> 04:51:28.400
little bit about school age care and we

6282
04:51:25.840 --> 04:51:30.798
have heard some desires for language

6283
04:51:28.400 --> 04:51:33.120
around guarantees. Uh I think we

6284
04:51:30.798 --> 04:51:35.520
discussed a little bit why can't really

6285
04:51:33.120 --> 04:51:38.480
guarantee things in a lottery which is

6286
04:51:35.520 --> 04:51:40.240
by definition a system of chance. Um, so

6287
04:51:38.480 --> 04:51:41.920
I just wanted to double check with staff

6288
04:51:40.240 --> 04:51:44.000
since that language that I proposed was

6289
04:51:41.920 --> 04:51:46.080
before the school age care programming

6290
04:51:44.000 --> 04:51:49.600
discussion discussion we had today that

6291
04:51:46.080 --> 04:51:53.440
that um that language is not in conflict

6292
04:51:49.600 --> 04:51:56.000
with our ability to provide care given

6293
04:51:53.440 --> 04:51:59.320
the restraints that the state imposes

6294
04:51:56.000 --> 04:51:59.320
upon us.

6295
04:52:01.920 --> 04:52:05.560
I think this works.

6296
04:52:06.080 --> 04:52:11.360
>> Deian,

6297
04:52:08.560 --> 04:52:13.920
uh, my computer has died now. So, uh,

6298
04:52:11.360 --> 04:52:17.920
the meeting was too long. Can we go back

6299
04:52:13.920 --> 04:52:20.480
to the, um, the toggling switches of

6300
04:52:17.920 --> 04:52:23.520
open enrollment for a minute? Can we go

6301
04:52:20.480 --> 04:52:27.040
back to all the way back there?

6302
04:52:23.520 --> 04:52:28.320
>> Oh, no. I have no idea. those that

6303
04:52:27.040 --> 04:52:30.320
are.

6304
04:52:28.320 --> 04:52:33.638
>> Yeah, probably close. Thank you.

6305
04:52:30.320 --> 04:52:33.638
>> Slide 2122.

6306
04:52:37.040 --> 04:52:40.280
>> Thank you.

6307
04:52:46.320 --> 04:52:49.560
>> So close.

6308
04:52:49.920 --> 04:52:58.080
>> There it is. Okay. Um

6309
04:52:55.120 --> 04:53:00.160
let's see. So uh let's take for an

6310
04:52:58.080 --> 04:53:02.718
example where we haven't really talked

6311
04:53:00.160 --> 04:53:07.680
about this school change and it's kind

6312
04:53:02.718 --> 04:53:10.878
of a big one and that is that um the

6313
04:53:07.680 --> 04:53:15.600
students at quote Monarch Elementary

6314
04:53:10.878 --> 04:53:19.760
will now go to El Dorado Elementary.

6315
04:53:15.600 --> 04:53:24.958
What if a a family has openen enrolled

6316
04:53:19.760 --> 04:53:28.400
from another place in U Lafayette and

6317
04:53:24.958 --> 04:53:33.280
they they go to Lewisville

6318
04:53:28.400 --> 04:53:36.400
um I can't call it that Monarch K8

6319
04:53:33.280 --> 04:53:41.520
and they're a fourth grader will they be

6320
04:53:36.400 --> 04:53:44.080
able to stay with their with their um

6321
04:53:41.520 --> 04:53:46.080
cohort or will they be ousted because

6322
04:53:44.080 --> 04:53:48.480
they're not

6323
04:53:46.080 --> 04:53:52.080
you're not a

6324
04:53:48.480 --> 04:53:55.440
>> so nobody would be ousted. Um I will say

6325
04:53:52.080 --> 04:53:57.680
that the Monarch K8 elementary students

6326
04:53:55.440 --> 04:54:01.120
will be relocating to three different

6327
04:53:57.680 --> 04:54:04.160
schools. Um so some students Bell's Flat

6328
04:54:01.120 --> 04:54:06.400
Irons will be will will go to El Dorado.

6329
04:54:04.160 --> 04:54:09.440
Um some schools will go to Fire students

6330
04:54:06.400 --> 04:54:11.200
will go to Fireside. Um and other

6331
04:54:09.440 --> 04:54:11.920
students will go to

6332
04:54:11.200 --> 04:54:12.480
>> Superior.

6333
04:54:11.920 --> 04:54:14.000
>> Superior.

6334
04:54:12.480 --> 04:54:18.878
>> South of 36.

6335
04:54:14.000 --> 04:54:21.440
36. And so, um, it it's because of this

6336
04:54:18.878 --> 04:54:24.878
that that we've designed,

6337
04:54:21.440 --> 04:54:28.320
uh, this priority choice enrollment in a

6338
04:54:24.878 --> 04:54:30.240
way that empowers families to make a

6339
04:54:28.320 --> 04:54:31.680
choice as opposed to saying if you don't

6340
04:54:30.240 --> 04:54:33.120
live in the zone, I can't, you know,

6341
04:54:31.680 --> 04:54:34.798
which of the three schools would we

6342
04:54:33.120 --> 04:54:36.480
decide somebody goes to versus where

6343
04:54:34.798 --> 04:54:39.200
would the family be empowered to use

6344
04:54:36.480 --> 04:54:41.920
that priority enrollment to enroll? And

6345
04:54:39.200 --> 04:54:43.920
so all of the students at Monarch K5

6346
04:54:41.920 --> 04:54:46.080
would have this priority choice. Open

6347
04:54:43.920 --> 04:54:48.000
enrollment was the very first priority.

6348
04:54:46.080 --> 04:54:49.840
Um and then they would have a decision

6349
04:54:48.000 --> 04:54:51.600
to make. Uh would they want to go back

6350
04:54:49.840 --> 04:54:53.680
to their neighborhood school where they

6351
04:54:51.600 --> 04:54:55.760
came from or would they want to be able

6352
04:54:53.680 --> 04:54:57.760
to choose any of those schools or other

6353
04:54:55.760 --> 04:54:59.680
schools within the district? You know,

6354
04:54:57.760 --> 04:55:02.958
it's tricky because we wanted to create

6355
04:54:59.680 --> 04:55:04.240
a system and we're very thoughtful about

6356
04:55:02.958 --> 04:55:06.638
tried to be thoughtful about this

6357
04:55:04.240 --> 04:55:08.160
priority choice enrollment preference

6358
04:55:06.638 --> 04:55:10.000
which board members I know we've se re

6359
04:55:08.160 --> 04:55:12.240
received a lot of feedback from a lot of

6360
04:55:10.000 --> 04:55:14.560
people. I have not received one piece of

6361
04:55:12.240 --> 04:55:16.480
feedback to say that's not a good idea

6362
04:55:14.560 --> 04:55:18.320
that that this is actually you have to

6363
04:55:16.480 --> 04:55:20.718
empower families to make choices in a

6364
04:55:18.320 --> 04:55:22.958
new system. So in that system they would

6365
04:55:20.718 --> 04:55:26.000
have if they wanted to open enroll in

6366
04:55:22.958 --> 04:55:28.160
fireside or in Superior or in um El

6367
04:55:26.000 --> 04:55:29.600
Dorado uh what they would have to

6368
04:55:28.160 --> 04:55:31.760
consider in that process is the

6369
04:55:29.600 --> 04:55:33.680
available capacity in those in those

6370
04:55:31.760 --> 04:55:35.920
buildings. Um but then they would be

6371
04:55:33.680 --> 04:55:38.160
able to uh to to be able to use that

6372
04:55:35.920 --> 04:55:41.600
choice to enter their preferences

6373
04:55:38.160 --> 04:55:43.600
through open enrollment.

6374
04:55:41.600 --> 04:55:45.840
>> Thank you. I do just also want to

6375
04:55:43.600 --> 04:55:48.958
comment maybe for the community to know

6376
04:55:45.840 --> 04:55:51.920
that um as soon as we opened Monarch

6377
04:55:48.958 --> 04:55:54.320
High School that there was some of the

6378
04:55:51.920 --> 04:55:58.160
writing was on the wall about what was

6379
04:55:54.320 --> 04:56:01.120
going to happen um because

6380
04:55:58.160 --> 04:56:03.360
of the the opportunity for choice that

6381
04:56:01.120 --> 04:56:06.080
also existed at the same time. So

6382
04:56:03.360 --> 04:56:09.840
immediately when El Dorado opened,

6383
04:56:06.080 --> 04:56:11.600
people chose to go elsewhere. And um

6384
04:56:09.840 --> 04:56:14.560
even though we had the beautiful Monarch

6385
04:56:11.600 --> 04:56:16.240
High School just down the street, um

6386
04:56:14.560 --> 04:56:17.840
they weren't necessarily coming. They

6387
04:56:16.240 --> 04:56:21.520
were going to Boulder through Marshall

6388
04:56:17.840 --> 04:56:24.560
Mesa and that was closer for them in

6389
04:56:21.520 --> 04:56:27.840
their perception. So it doesn't surprise

6390
04:56:24.560 --> 04:56:30.400
me. Um, and but it's really sad because

6391
04:56:27.840 --> 04:56:34.798
it is a community that I've cared for

6392
04:56:30.400 --> 04:56:36.798
and helped build for uh many years. And

6393
04:56:34.798 --> 04:56:40.560
um I'm sorry that it came to a point

6394
04:56:36.798 --> 04:56:43.200
where we had to make a really difficult

6395
04:56:40.560 --> 04:56:46.480
decision about u what's going to happen

6396
04:56:43.200 --> 04:56:52.320
to those schools. and we're giving up

6397
04:56:46.480 --> 04:56:54.480
our PK through 8 or PK through 12 model

6398
04:56:52.320 --> 04:56:58.400
which my daughter got to do everything

6399
04:56:54.480 --> 04:57:00.320
but the K. Um so it was uh it was a

6400
04:56:58.400 --> 04:57:05.718
tremendous experience and I'm sorry that

6401
04:57:00.320 --> 04:57:05.718
that won't be in existence anymore.

6402
04:57:05.760 --> 04:57:11.798
>> Anna and Lolia,

6403
04:57:08.320 --> 04:57:11.798
>> thank you. And

6404
04:57:12.000 --> 04:57:16.878
Rob and Rob, you've answered this um

6405
04:57:14.638 --> 04:57:20.080
throughout the the session and I just

6406
04:57:16.878 --> 04:57:22.480
want to and or answered parts of um my

6407
04:57:20.080 --> 04:57:25.760
question throughout the session. Um but

6408
04:57:22.480 --> 04:57:29.360
I it is my understanding that the last

6409
04:57:25.760 --> 04:57:32.320
time that we um redid boundaries for the

6410
04:57:29.360 --> 04:57:34.080
schools um the Broomfield elementary

6411
04:57:32.320 --> 04:57:38.878
schools were not a part of that

6412
04:57:34.080 --> 04:57:42.400
redistricting. And so I want to know um

6413
04:57:38.878 --> 04:57:45.520
what and if that was a consideration

6414
04:57:42.400 --> 04:57:49.200
that was um brought up within leadership

6415
04:57:45.520 --> 04:57:51.680
and what was the conversation around um

6416
04:57:49.200 --> 04:57:55.120
what that redistricting would look like

6417
04:57:51.680 --> 04:57:57.920
um and what are the plans with the Birch

6418
04:57:55.120 --> 04:57:59.360
building um following uh the the

6419
04:57:57.920 --> 04:58:02.480
closure?

6420
04:57:59.360 --> 04:58:05.760
>> Yeah, I'm happy to take this. Um great

6421
04:58:02.480 --> 04:58:07.280
questions. There simply aren't enough

6422
04:58:05.760 --> 04:58:09.680
students

6423
04:58:07.280 --> 04:58:12.480
that live in Broomfield to change the

6424
04:58:09.680 --> 04:58:15.120
attendance boundaries. And I think this

6425
04:58:12.480 --> 04:58:17.760
chart here shows the issues that we're

6426
04:58:15.120 --> 04:58:19.760
dealing with again when we're the board

6427
04:58:17.760 --> 04:58:22.560
made it a priority that we can no longer

6428
04:58:19.760 --> 04:58:25.120
have small schools. So when we look at

6429
04:58:22.560 --> 04:58:28.718
how many kids live in Birch's attendance

6430
04:58:25.120 --> 04:58:30.718
area, well below the two classes per

6431
04:58:28.718 --> 04:58:33.680
grade level benchmark, that was a that's

6432
04:58:30.718 --> 04:58:38.240
a minimum that we set. Uh when we look

6433
04:58:33.680 --> 04:58:40.400
at um Cole, well below, Aspen Creek

6434
04:58:38.240 --> 04:58:43.760
barely above

6435
04:58:40.400 --> 04:58:48.160
um and then uh Emerald

6436
04:58:43.760 --> 04:58:52.638
um barely above that 300 mark. There's

6437
04:58:48.160 --> 04:58:56.320
no kids to shuffle or to move around to

6438
04:58:52.638 --> 04:58:58.958
create four uh sustainable two round

6439
04:58:56.320 --> 04:59:01.360
schools. There's just not simply enough

6440
04:58:58.958 --> 04:59:03.040
kids. That's the challenge. We looked at

6441
04:59:01.360 --> 04:59:04.878
it. We looked at attendance boundaries

6442
04:59:03.040 --> 04:59:07.520
across this entire district. And this is

6443
04:59:04.878 --> 04:59:10.000
what we continue to run into is if

6444
04:59:07.520 --> 04:59:12.320
resident students are the foundation, we

6445
04:59:10.000 --> 04:59:14.878
don't have enough resident students to

6446
04:59:12.320 --> 04:59:16.798
support four schools in Broomfield. That

6447
04:59:14.878 --> 04:59:17.680
that's the challenge. Yeah,

6448
04:59:16.798 --> 04:59:19.840
>> definitely looked at them.

6449
04:59:17.680 --> 04:59:22.718
>> And I think what's hard for for the

6450
04:59:19.840 --> 04:59:25.120
Broomfield community is understanding

6451
04:59:22.718 --> 04:59:27.440
that we have two schools that are nearly

6452
04:59:25.120 --> 04:59:30.718
at capacity, two other schools that

6453
04:59:27.440 --> 04:59:33.520
aren't, but that we have a consistent um

6454
04:59:30.718 --> 04:59:36.560
year-over-year amount of open enrollment

6455
04:59:33.520 --> 04:59:38.878
students that come into the district. um

6456
04:59:36.560 --> 04:59:41.200
that parents and families and community

6457
04:59:38.878 --> 04:59:44.320
members feel like that should be in

6458
04:59:41.200 --> 04:59:47.520
consideration because of how close we

6459
04:59:44.320 --> 04:59:50.400
get to at capacity at Aspen and at

6460
04:59:47.520 --> 04:59:52.878
Emerald. And then again, I know that

6461
04:59:50.400 --> 04:59:55.680
Adams hasn't taken a vote, but the the

6462
04:59:52.878 --> 04:59:58.240
educational landscape of that area

6463
04:59:55.680 --> 05:00:01.360
within that area of Broomfield

6464
04:59:58.240 --> 05:00:06.480
is proposed to change drastically. And

6465
05:00:01.360 --> 05:00:09.440
so I I do want to know like what are the

6466
05:00:06.480 --> 05:00:12.080
if the resilient proposal passes, what

6467
05:00:09.440 --> 05:00:15.200
is the short-term plan for the Birch um

6468
05:00:12.080 --> 05:00:17.520
school? And then when we get if if we

6469
05:00:15.200 --> 05:00:19.840
get to at capacity at the three

6470
05:00:17.520 --> 05:00:21.920
elementary schools, what are the plans

6471
05:00:19.840 --> 05:00:24.000
then?

6472
05:00:21.920 --> 05:00:27.280
>> Thank you. Thank you for that question.

6473
05:00:24.000 --> 05:00:30.160
Um, we have been really clear that we

6474
05:00:27.280 --> 05:00:32.400
have not designated any other uses for

6475
05:00:30.160 --> 05:00:34.718
any school buildings that currently

6476
05:00:32.400 --> 05:00:37.040
house students and we would not

6477
05:00:34.718 --> 05:00:40.080
undertake those conversations until the

6478
05:00:37.040 --> 05:00:41.920
board has taken action on the proposal.

6479
05:00:40.080 --> 05:00:44.718
So, I cannot answer what will happen to

6480
05:00:41.920 --> 05:00:46.798
the Birch School building. And and for

6481
05:00:44.718 --> 05:00:49.440
those who say that we have a consistent

6482
05:00:46.798 --> 05:00:52.240
amount of open enrolled students that

6483
05:00:49.440 --> 05:00:54.560
fills up the school, that's not true. If

6484
05:00:52.240 --> 05:00:56.958
that were the case, we would have two,

6485
05:00:54.560 --> 05:01:00.798
three round schools at Burge, at Cole,

6486
05:00:56.958 --> 05:01:02.638
and we don't. Um, we do have now open

6487
05:01:00.798 --> 05:01:05.120
enrollment in Aspen Creek, but as Glenn

6488
05:01:02.638 --> 05:01:07.280
had shared with you, that is a new that

6489
05:01:05.120 --> 05:01:09.120
within the past four years, that is that

6490
05:01:07.280 --> 05:01:11.280
was that's a kind of a new thing

6491
05:01:09.120 --> 05:01:13.760
happening. If you to go back four years

6492
05:01:11.280 --> 05:01:16.480
ago, folks were open and rolling out of

6493
05:01:13.760 --> 05:01:18.080
Aspen Creek. And this is this and I

6494
05:01:16.480 --> 05:01:20.400
think that this is the best example of

6495
05:01:18.080 --> 05:01:22.320
the volatility of open enrollment when

6496
05:01:20.400 --> 05:01:25.040
you're asking us to create sustainable

6497
05:01:22.320 --> 05:01:27.120
long range planning that you cannot rely

6498
05:01:25.040 --> 05:01:29.440
on open enrollment especially from a

6499
05:01:27.120 --> 05:01:31.440
community that is also declining. The

6500
05:01:29.440 --> 05:01:33.760
num the pool of students that could open

6501
05:01:31.440 --> 05:01:36.320
enroll into our district is declining

6502
05:01:33.760 --> 05:01:38.080
from Adams 12 which is why Adams 12 is

6503
05:01:36.320 --> 05:01:41.280
also going through the painstaking

6504
05:01:38.080 --> 05:01:43.600
process of closing schools. So, um, for

6505
05:01:41.280 --> 05:01:47.200
those who would say that that Birch and

6506
05:01:43.600 --> 05:01:49.440
Cole, neither of those schools are meet

6507
05:01:47.200 --> 05:01:52.160
our 300

6508
05:01:49.440 --> 05:01:55.120
300, which is just two full rounds, not

6509
05:01:52.160 --> 05:01:57.520
full 25 students per class, right? So,

6510
05:01:55.120 --> 05:01:59.600
we have underfilled two round schools at

6511
05:01:57.520 --> 05:02:02.878
Cole. We have underfilled two round

6512
05:01:59.600 --> 05:02:04.638
schools at Bir. And Birch's de

6513
05:02:02.878 --> 05:02:07.440
neighborhood enrollment continues to

6514
05:02:04.638 --> 05:02:09.280
decline. And we know and understand that

6515
05:02:07.440 --> 05:02:12.400
the neighborhoods in Birch and Cole can

6516
05:02:09.280 --> 05:02:15.520
fit into the Colt building um uh moving

6517
05:02:12.400 --> 05:02:17.680
forward. Again, uh to your point, what

6518
05:02:15.520 --> 05:02:20.400
happens if we get this massive influx of

6519
05:02:17.680 --> 05:02:21.920
resident students? We don't have the

6520
05:02:20.400 --> 05:02:23.920
information that would lead us to

6521
05:02:21.920 --> 05:02:26.400
believe that there is something coming

6522
05:02:23.920 --> 05:02:29.280
down the down the plan from the planning

6523
05:02:26.400 --> 05:02:31.040
from the city of Broomfield. As as a

6524
05:02:29.280 --> 05:02:34.000
reminder, board members, we talked to

6525
05:02:31.040 --> 05:02:38.480
every municipality. We went and spoke

6526
05:02:34.000 --> 05:02:41.360
directly to Boulder City Council, to

6527
05:02:38.480 --> 05:02:43.920
Broomfield City Council, to Superior

6528
05:02:41.360 --> 05:02:46.480
Town Council, to Lewisville

6529
05:02:43.920 --> 05:02:48.320
Town Council, right? We shared with them

6530
05:02:46.480 --> 05:02:50.080
the data that we shared with you. We

6531
05:02:48.320 --> 05:02:52.480
shared with them that we are no longer

6532
05:02:50.080 --> 05:02:54.480
going to allow small schools. And at

6533
05:02:52.480 --> 05:02:56.480
those meetings, all of those meetings

6534
05:02:54.480 --> 05:02:58.240
which are public and recorded and our

6535
05:02:56.480 --> 05:03:02.080
and our public is free to watch those

6536
05:02:58.240 --> 05:03:04.400
meetings, there was no mention of

6537
05:03:02.080 --> 05:03:06.320
comprehensive plan. We actually think

6538
05:03:04.400 --> 05:03:07.760
that um we're going to have a bunch of

6539
05:03:06.320 --> 05:03:10.240
new students. You shouldn't do any of

6540
05:03:07.760 --> 05:03:13.200
these things. As a matter of fact, the

6541
05:03:10.240 --> 05:03:15.840
opposite was true. An acknowledgment of

6542
05:03:13.200 --> 05:03:18.080
the lack of affordability. As a matter

6543
05:03:15.840 --> 05:03:20.638
of fact, and and I think Rob, it was

6544
05:03:18.080 --> 05:03:23.120
when you were in is it uh city city or

6545
05:03:20.638 --> 05:03:24.638
town of Lewisville?

6546
05:03:23.120 --> 05:03:27.680
>> City of Lewisville.

6547
05:03:24.638 --> 05:03:30.638
>> Their quote is we caused this.

6548
05:03:27.680 --> 05:03:32.000
This is our fault.

6549
05:03:30.638 --> 05:03:34.480
>> We

6550
05:03:32.000 --> 05:03:37.680
>> as I I'll let Rob tell the story. I

6551
05:03:34.480 --> 05:03:40.400
wasn't there. Uh but but but because of

6552
05:03:37.680 --> 05:03:43.600
the of the decisions that that council

6553
05:03:40.400 --> 05:03:46.240
had made and and

6554
05:03:43.600 --> 05:03:48.080
just just the the the the issue that

6555
05:03:46.240 --> 05:03:49.520
we're dealing with. I'll let I'll let

6556
05:03:48.080 --> 05:03:52.480
you I'll I'll let you share.

6557
05:03:49.520 --> 05:03:54.878
>> No. And that is correct. And since that

6558
05:03:52.480 --> 05:03:58.560
time, the city of Lewisville has adopted

6559
05:03:54.878 --> 05:03:59.920
a new uh comp plan. And with that, it's

6560
05:03:58.560 --> 05:04:01.920
just going to take time for that to

6561
05:03:59.920 --> 05:04:04.000
build out. It doesn't, you know, it's

6562
05:04:01.920 --> 05:04:05.520
not going to solve anything today. It's

6563
05:04:04.000 --> 05:04:07.920
not going to solve anything 5 years from

6564
05:04:05.520 --> 05:04:10.480
now. Our best hope is that we start

6565
05:04:07.920 --> 05:04:12.240
seeing some solutions 10 years out,

6566
05:04:10.480 --> 05:04:14.000
right? But it's not going to happen

6567
05:04:12.240 --> 05:04:15.680
immediately. And I think we all have to

6568
05:04:14.000 --> 05:04:18.080
understand that. Cities understand that,

6569
05:04:15.680 --> 05:04:19.760
towns understand that. But it is a move

6570
05:04:18.080 --> 05:04:22.958
in the right direction. But they also

6571
05:04:19.760 --> 05:04:24.958
understand that we, you know, it's all

6572
05:04:22.958 --> 05:04:26.560
of us collectively that have contributed

6573
05:04:24.958 --> 05:04:30.080
to what we're seeing right now, high

6574
05:04:26.560 --> 05:04:32.240
cost of living, etc. Um, you know, when

6575
05:04:30.080 --> 05:04:33.760
we talk about flat irons, and I I hate

6576
05:04:32.240 --> 05:04:36.160
to keep coming back to this, and we

6577
05:04:33.760 --> 05:04:38.878
wonder why we have declining enrollment.

6578
05:04:36.160 --> 05:04:40.320
Look at the houses around Flat Irons. I

6579
05:04:38.878 --> 05:04:42.798
mean, pull it up. It's they're $2

6580
05:04:40.320 --> 05:04:44.638
million plus homes. I mean, we got

6581
05:04:42.798 --> 05:04:47.040
declining birth rates of one, but I

6582
05:04:44.638 --> 05:04:50.000
mean, who can argue with high home

6583
05:04:47.040 --> 05:04:51.920
prices and young families moving in and

6584
05:04:50.000 --> 05:04:54.480
working two jobs and having kids? I

6585
05:04:51.920 --> 05:04:56.080
mean, it's not sustainable for us. So,

6586
05:04:54.480 --> 05:04:58.240
um,

6587
05:04:56.080 --> 05:05:00.000
all of the I I don't want to make any of

6588
05:04:58.240 --> 05:05:02.400
our municipalities look bad. That's not

6589
05:05:00.000 --> 05:05:04.958
the intent. They're all good partners.

6590
05:05:02.400 --> 05:05:06.878
They all have skin in the game, if

6591
05:05:04.958 --> 05:05:08.638
that's the way to say it. They're all

6592
05:05:06.878 --> 05:05:11.360
making the right moves. It's just going

6593
05:05:08.638 --> 05:05:13.040
to take time, right? We need affordable

6594
05:05:11.360 --> 05:05:16.320
housing. It's affordable housing crisis

6595
05:05:13.040 --> 05:05:18.480
that we're all faced with.

6596
05:05:16.320 --> 05:05:20.878
>> Yeah. And the infill sometimes is as

6597
05:05:18.480 --> 05:05:22.480
Glenn showed infill is not going to

6598
05:05:20.878 --> 05:05:25.200
solve it because our families continue

6599
05:05:22.480 --> 05:05:29.600
to sh like live in a certain type of

6600
05:05:25.200 --> 05:05:32.638
housing stock. Um thank you for that. I

6601
05:05:29.600 --> 05:05:35.040
it was Lenia and then Jason and then

6602
05:05:32.638 --> 05:05:37.360
Alex.

6603
05:05:35.040 --> 05:05:39.840
I uh

6604
05:05:37.360 --> 05:05:42.000
want to come back to this is not on

6605
05:05:39.840 --> 05:05:45.280
today's slide presentation but this this

6606
05:05:42.000 --> 05:05:47.680
will help us I'm sure. Um

6607
05:05:45.280 --> 05:05:50.560
we've talked about decreasing excess

6608
05:05:47.680 --> 05:05:54.958
capacity and in particular

6609
05:05:50.560 --> 05:06:00.638
the um Boulder area doesn't decrease

6610
05:05:54.958 --> 05:06:02.798
capacity as much as I would hope. Um,

6611
05:06:00.638 --> 05:06:04.958
and I also,

6612
05:06:02.798 --> 05:06:08.878
and I think it's just important to have

6613
05:06:04.958 --> 05:06:12.560
that discussion that

6614
05:06:08.878 --> 05:06:14.878
we have a slide that says we have 16

6615
05:06:12.560 --> 05:06:16.718
elementary schools and we have students

6616
05:06:14.878 --> 05:06:19.520
for 10.

6617
05:06:16.718 --> 05:06:21.920
And so I to me it's important that we

6618
05:06:19.520 --> 05:06:25.440
just have this discussion very publicly

6619
05:06:21.920 --> 05:06:27.520
about how we plan to get where we need

6620
05:06:25.440 --> 05:06:31.200
to go

6621
05:06:27.520 --> 05:06:33.040
because I I will just and I am only

6622
05:06:31.200 --> 05:06:36.320
speaking for myself. This is not board

6623
05:06:33.040 --> 05:06:39.840
voice. I want to see that decreased

6624
05:06:36.320 --> 05:06:43.120
excess capacity taken. I mean I I want

6625
05:06:39.840 --> 05:06:45.520
to see that decrease.

6626
05:06:43.120 --> 05:06:46.718
I I'll let Thank you Lillian for that

6627
05:06:45.520 --> 05:06:48.400
question and because I don't think

6628
05:06:46.718 --> 05:06:50.480
you're alone in asking that question. I

6629
05:06:48.400 --> 05:06:53.200
think there's folks in the community

6630
05:06:50.480 --> 05:06:56.400
have they've asked the question. Uh our

6631
05:06:53.200 --> 05:06:58.240
proposal is for five years out. We have

6632
05:06:56.400 --> 05:07:00.320
five-year projections. We created our

6633
05:06:58.240 --> 05:07:02.320
proposal. We feel like in five years

6634
05:07:00.320 --> 05:07:03.760
those projections hold. We return the

6635
05:07:02.320 --> 05:07:08.080
resources to improve the student

6636
05:07:03.760 --> 05:07:11.360
experience. Um I think that as you've

6637
05:07:08.080 --> 05:07:13.760
seen through this closure consolidation

6638
05:07:11.360 --> 05:07:15.680
right we don't have the the schools and

6639
05:07:13.760 --> 05:07:19.040
students are coming aren't coming in

6640
05:07:15.680 --> 05:07:20.958
neat buckets right you just can't do you

6641
05:07:19.040 --> 05:07:23.760
know the the schools don't all the both

6642
05:07:20.958 --> 05:07:26.320
two two schools in close proximity don't

6643
05:07:23.760 --> 05:07:28.560
come to 50% and you merge them together

6644
05:07:26.320 --> 05:07:30.400
then they fit uh you know so you have

6645
05:07:28.560 --> 05:07:33.200
building capacity that's a limiting

6646
05:07:30.400 --> 05:07:34.718
factor you have um you know some of the

6647
05:07:33.200 --> 05:07:36.958
other things that our communities has

6648
05:07:34.718 --> 05:07:38.798
has has has really prioritized around

6649
05:07:36.958 --> 05:07:42.480
walkability and and those preferences

6650
05:07:38.798 --> 05:07:46.160
that are a limiting factor. Um and uh

6651
05:07:42.480 --> 05:07:48.160
you have um a a significant amount of of

6652
05:07:46.160 --> 05:07:49.680
proposed changes here for you all to

6653
05:07:48.160 --> 05:07:51.280
consider. You know, if you were to

6654
05:07:49.680 --> 05:07:53.680
compare the number of schools to the

6655
05:07:51.280 --> 05:07:55.840
number of schools other schools in

6656
05:07:53.680 --> 05:07:57.680
districts and see how much action we're

6657
05:07:55.840 --> 05:08:00.400
taking versus how the action that other

6658
05:07:57.680 --> 05:08:01.920
school districts have taken. I think in

6659
05:08:00.400 --> 05:08:05.040
uh if you were if you were to look at

6660
05:08:01.920 --> 05:08:06.798
that we're very much on par um with with

6661
05:08:05.040 --> 05:08:09.040
other districts that have three times

6662
05:08:06.798 --> 05:08:12.160
the schools we have closing maybe 11 and

6663
05:08:09.040 --> 05:08:15.520
we're here at six. So I do think that it

6664
05:08:12.160 --> 05:08:18.240
is something that um that the board is

6665
05:08:15.520 --> 05:08:21.040
free to direct staff to continue to

6666
05:08:18.240 --> 05:08:23.040
monitor. I think we have we have taken

6667
05:08:21.040 --> 05:08:25.040
your direction and have said in five we

6668
05:08:23.040 --> 05:08:27.920
think this holds in five years out to

6669
05:08:25.040 --> 05:08:32.240
2030. Um and then we have to look and

6670
05:08:27.920 --> 05:08:34.320
see how how enrollment patterns how

6671
05:08:32.240 --> 05:08:37.280
neighborhood patterns are there any

6672
05:08:34.320 --> 05:08:39.600
shifts in that data. Do we are some some

6673
05:08:37.280 --> 05:08:41.200
neighborhoods declining faster? Are some

6674
05:08:39.600 --> 05:08:42.560
neighborhoods growing faster? You know

6675
05:08:41.200 --> 05:08:44.400
Glenn shared you with you his

6676
05:08:42.560 --> 05:08:46.560
methodology. He shared with our

6677
05:08:44.400 --> 05:08:48.320
community at large the methodology. That

6678
05:08:46.560 --> 05:08:50.798
won't be a surprise for folks as we

6679
05:08:48.320 --> 05:08:53.520
continue to measure and monitor this.

6680
05:08:50.798 --> 05:08:55.520
And so, uh, the things that come into

6681
05:08:53.520 --> 05:08:57.200
place where schools are located,

6682
05:08:55.520 --> 05:08:59.360
residents, students, and projected

6683
05:08:57.200 --> 05:09:00.878
enrollment. Uh, and we will continue to

6684
05:08:59.360 --> 05:09:03.040
monitor those. Board members, you will

6685
05:09:00.878 --> 05:09:06.400
get an annual report every year on

6686
05:09:03.040 --> 05:09:08.878
enrollment projections. Um,

6687
05:09:06.400 --> 05:09:10.638
as as as we've done every year for the

6688
05:09:08.878 --> 05:09:13.520
for the the nine years that I've been

6689
05:09:10.638 --> 05:09:17.280
here. Um, and this can continue to be a

6690
05:09:13.520 --> 05:09:19.600
conversation that we have. Um, and

6691
05:09:17.280 --> 05:09:21.040
you'll see the budgets. I mean the the

6692
05:09:19.600 --> 05:09:23.920
you know Bill talked about the budget

6693
05:09:21.040 --> 05:09:27.040
but when you have declining enrollment

6694
05:09:23.920 --> 05:09:28.798
and rising costs and the revenues that

6695
05:09:27.040 --> 05:09:30.798
you get are decreased because the

6696
05:09:28.798 --> 05:09:33.040
decline in students that don't match the

6697
05:09:30.798 --> 05:09:35.360
cost of living and then you have an

6698
05:09:33.040 --> 05:09:37.680
employee base 90% of our money is people

6699
05:09:35.360 --> 05:09:38.878
in our budget uh trying to keep the

6700
05:09:37.680 --> 05:09:41.360
money trying to keep up with the

6701
05:09:38.878 --> 05:09:43.840
pressures of the cost of living um to be

6702
05:09:41.360 --> 05:09:45.760
able to give folks adequate steps um and

6703
05:09:43.840 --> 05:09:48.000
cost of living adjustments and the and

6704
05:09:45.760 --> 05:09:50.160
your your your your dollars declined.

6705
05:09:48.000 --> 05:09:52.080
signing because you have less and less

6706
05:09:50.160 --> 05:09:54.400
students. This will be an annual

6707
05:09:52.080 --> 05:09:57.680
conversation in regards to where are we.

6708
05:09:54.400 --> 05:09:59.680
I think it's a very significant move for

6709
05:09:57.680 --> 05:10:01.280
a board and a school district to go

6710
05:09:59.680 --> 05:10:03.360
through what we're going through and I

6711
05:10:01.280 --> 05:10:05.600
wouldn't recommend this to be an annual

6712
05:10:03.360 --> 05:10:08.080
conversation. I think that that's

6713
05:10:05.600 --> 05:10:10.638
chaotic and unfair. I think that our

6714
05:10:08.080 --> 05:10:12.958
projections are are based on on where we

6715
05:10:10.638 --> 05:10:15.440
think things will be in five years,

6716
05:10:12.958 --> 05:10:17.040
right? I think in four years, in 5

6717
05:10:15.440 --> 05:10:19.280
years, we could look at that and the

6718
05:10:17.040 --> 05:10:21.280
board at that point in time um could

6719
05:10:19.280 --> 05:10:24.160
take this and I do think that we have a

6720
05:10:21.280 --> 05:10:26.240
roadmap for a process now that would

6721
05:10:24.160 --> 05:10:27.840
validate what do folks want? Let's

6722
05:10:26.240 --> 05:10:29.760
listen to folks. Let's see where the

6723
05:10:27.840 --> 05:10:33.760
capacity is and the next time maybe it's

6724
05:10:29.760 --> 05:10:37.120
only maybe we've we've cleaned up um the

6725
05:10:33.760 --> 05:10:38.320
um the the o open seats in Broomfield.

6726
05:10:37.120 --> 05:10:39.680
Maybe Broomfield doesn't have to go

6727
05:10:38.320 --> 05:10:41.600
through this again. Maybe Boulder does

6728
05:10:39.680 --> 05:10:43.840
have to go through this again. Maybe

6729
05:10:41.600 --> 05:10:46.160
maybe maybe Lewisville and Superior in 5

6730
05:10:43.840 --> 05:10:49.360
years something different has changed.

6731
05:10:46.160 --> 05:10:50.718
Uh so um I hope that answers your

6732
05:10:49.360 --> 05:10:54.240
question. I think it's something that we

6733
05:10:50.718 --> 05:10:55.760
have to measure. Um the that the and we

6734
05:10:54.240 --> 05:10:57.920
have to continue to keep an eye on but

6735
05:10:55.760 --> 05:11:00.560
we made this plan based on a five-year

6736
05:10:57.920 --> 05:11:02.958
out projection. Um all the projections,

6737
05:11:00.560 --> 05:11:04.878
all the data is out to five years,

6738
05:11:02.958 --> 05:11:06.560
right? And if you go beyond five years,

6739
05:11:04.878 --> 05:11:08.240
as Glenn said, you're kind of flying in

6740
05:11:06.560 --> 05:11:09.360
the dark. We don't understand what's

6741
05:11:08.240 --> 05:11:10.718
going to happen with birth rates. At

6742
05:11:09.360 --> 05:11:13.360
what point will birth rates take an

6743
05:11:10.718 --> 05:11:15.520
uptick? Will that happen? Um, we

6744
05:11:13.360 --> 05:11:17.840
understand um housing prices. We

6745
05:11:15.520 --> 05:11:19.760
understand high interest rates. We

6746
05:11:17.840 --> 05:11:21.280
understand folks in our community

6747
05:11:19.760 --> 05:11:23.520
wanting to age in place because this is

6748
05:11:21.280 --> 05:11:25.200
a beautiful place to live. And we also

6749
05:11:23.520 --> 05:11:27.760
understand that the school district is

6750
05:11:25.200 --> 05:11:29.760
absolutely doing its job with backto

6751
05:11:27.760 --> 05:11:32.400
backto back years of the highest

6752
05:11:29.760 --> 05:11:34.400
performance in the Denver metro area. No

6753
05:11:32.400 --> 05:11:36.638
district in the metro is even close to

6754
05:11:34.400 --> 05:11:39.280
the levels we're performing at. So, this

6755
05:11:36.638 --> 05:11:40.718
is a desirable place for folks who would

6756
05:11:39.280 --> 05:11:42.878
want to come and raise their families

6757
05:11:40.718 --> 05:11:44.560
and raise their kids. Uh, to Rob's

6758
05:11:42.878 --> 05:11:46.160
point, and I hope my comment uh that I

6759
05:11:44.560 --> 05:11:48.480
made in terms of the meeting that you

6760
05:11:46.160 --> 05:11:50.480
were at was was not looked at, and I

6761
05:11:48.480 --> 05:11:52.320
certainly understand um all of our

6762
05:11:50.480 --> 05:11:54.160
municipalities are doing what they can,

6763
05:11:52.320 --> 05:11:57.360
and not to suggest that Lewisville or

6764
05:11:54.160 --> 05:12:00.000
any municipality has done anything um

6765
05:11:57.360 --> 05:12:02.638
wrong. I just think that there's this

6766
05:12:00.000 --> 05:12:05.120
convergence of realities that are that

6767
05:12:02.638 --> 05:12:09.480
are happening in our community uh that

6768
05:12:05.120 --> 05:12:09.480
are making it very very complicated.

6769
05:12:10.400 --> 05:12:16.240
>> Helenia, then Jason, then Alex,

6770
05:12:12.400 --> 05:12:20.878
>> I'm only slightly satisfied with that

6771
05:12:16.240 --> 05:12:22.958
explanation. Um and I will continue to

6772
05:12:20.878 --> 05:12:26.080
encourage

6773
05:12:22.958 --> 05:12:28.560
reducing excess capacity.

6774
05:12:26.080 --> 05:12:31.680
Um, I think it is in the best interest

6775
05:12:28.560 --> 05:12:34.320
of our students

6776
05:12:31.680 --> 05:12:37.200
and

6777
05:12:34.320 --> 05:12:40.400
I feel that's my job is to look out for

6778
05:12:37.200 --> 05:12:43.440
our students and I feel like there is

6779
05:12:40.400 --> 05:12:45.200
too much excess capacity and several

6780
05:12:43.440 --> 05:12:50.958
schools that are going to still be too

6781
05:12:45.200 --> 05:12:58.040
small. So that being said, um

6782
05:12:50.958 --> 05:12:58.040
I also would like to talk about um how

6783
05:12:59.520 --> 05:13:05.440
I think that Okay, actually I'm going to

6784
05:13:02.718 --> 05:13:06.560
take a minute to get my mind around it

6785
05:13:05.440 --> 05:13:09.440
because I have a little bit of

6786
05:13:06.560 --> 05:13:13.600
frustration. That's okay. Um let me take

6787
05:13:09.440 --> 05:13:16.480
a minute, please. Jason, then Alex.

6788
05:13:13.600 --> 05:13:18.080
>> Um yeah. Uh I'm not sure who this

6789
05:13:16.480 --> 05:13:20.160
question is for. It's maybe kind of a

6790
05:13:18.080 --> 05:13:22.480
bigger picture question. Um you know,

6791
05:13:20.160 --> 05:13:25.040
Alex, when this first was proposed a few

6792
05:13:22.480 --> 05:13:26.958
weeks ago, Alex uh talked a lot about,

6793
05:13:25.040 --> 05:13:30.160
you know, making this transition should

6794
05:13:26.958 --> 05:13:32.878
something should this pass um you know,

6795
05:13:30.160 --> 05:13:34.480
making this as easy as possible for kids

6796
05:13:32.878 --> 05:13:37.600
and families and what can we do to make

6797
05:13:34.480 --> 05:13:39.040
it um you know, as seamless as possible.

6798
05:13:37.600 --> 05:13:41.120
And that really has stuck with me the

6799
05:13:39.040 --> 05:13:43.520
way he described it. Uh and I know

6800
05:13:41.120 --> 05:13:45.040
there's a lot of planning, you know, for

6801
05:13:43.520 --> 05:13:47.120
every aspect of this and that's clear

6802
05:13:45.040 --> 05:13:48.480
from uh today whether you agree with it

6803
05:13:47.120 --> 05:13:50.718
or not. You can't argue that this has

6804
05:13:48.480 --> 05:13:52.798
not been thought out well and there's

6805
05:13:50.718 --> 05:13:54.958
not contingency in planning for every

6806
05:13:52.798 --> 05:13:56.400
aspect of this. But I'd love to talk a

6807
05:13:54.958 --> 05:13:58.240
little bit about kind of that point of

6808
05:13:56.400 --> 05:14:01.120
like what what thought has been put into

6809
05:13:58.240 --> 05:14:04.480
I'm sure a lot um into these kinds of

6810
05:14:01.120 --> 05:14:06.560
transitions for kids, for families. Um,

6811
05:14:04.480 --> 05:14:08.718
you know, I I think Alex, not to quote

6812
05:14:06.560 --> 05:14:11.600
you, but talked about, you know,

6813
05:14:08.718 --> 05:14:14.560
inviting families over and uh, you know,

6814
05:14:11.600 --> 05:14:15.680
merging sachs and talking about um, and

6815
05:14:14.560 --> 05:14:17.600
this some of this is obviously

6816
05:14:15.680 --> 05:14:19.520
premature, but I just want to I think

6817
05:14:17.600 --> 05:14:22.878
that's important because so much of this

6818
05:14:19.520 --> 05:14:24.400
is um, you know, should this pass is it

6819
05:14:22.878 --> 05:14:26.798
will be difficult for families and I

6820
05:14:24.400 --> 05:14:28.400
think we've thought about so many things

6821
05:14:26.798 --> 05:14:30.000
uh, except maybe we haven't talked

6822
05:14:28.400 --> 05:14:32.798
enough about this and what this means

6823
05:14:30.000 --> 05:14:34.240
for uh, kids and families and

6824
05:14:32.798 --> 05:14:36.638
communities. And so I'd love to just

6825
05:14:34.240 --> 05:14:39.120
spend a little time uh maybe as we're

6826
05:14:36.638 --> 05:14:41.840
closing here on like how we've thought

6827
05:14:39.120 --> 05:14:45.920
about this transition.

6828
05:14:41.840 --> 05:14:48.240
>> Yeah, great question board member.

6829
05:14:45.920 --> 05:14:51.040
We've really spent a lot of time, as

6830
05:14:48.240 --> 05:14:55.280
much time as possible to be as proactive

6831
05:14:51.040 --> 05:14:57.520
around how does that baton pass? Um, why

6832
05:14:55.280 --> 05:14:59.920
I say it that way is we know the baton

6833
05:14:57.520 --> 05:15:01.520
between fifth grade and sixth grade and

6834
05:14:59.920 --> 05:15:04.958
eighth grade and nth grade are some of

6835
05:15:01.520 --> 05:15:08.080
the most important p transitions in a

6836
05:15:04.958 --> 05:15:11.760
K12 students experience of learning

6837
05:15:08.080 --> 05:15:14.160
community and you know seal component

6838
05:15:11.760 --> 05:15:17.680
social emotional components.

6839
05:15:14.160 --> 05:15:21.360
This probably surpasses all that in the

6840
05:15:17.680 --> 05:15:24.400
spaces of where schools are uh closing

6841
05:15:21.360 --> 05:15:29.840
and or consolidating. And so we've stood

6842
05:15:24.400 --> 05:15:35.040
up a team that is really geared to

6843
05:15:29.840 --> 05:15:38.798
support our school leaders, teachers,

6844
05:15:35.040 --> 05:15:40.638
front office staff, and other educators

6845
05:15:38.798 --> 05:15:42.958
along with school communities in a

6846
05:15:40.638 --> 05:15:45.120
really thoughtful, proactive way. Board

6847
05:15:42.958 --> 05:15:48.718
member Medler talked about developing

6848
05:15:45.120 --> 05:15:51.200
transition plans. And so we have um

6849
05:15:48.718 --> 05:15:52.878
identified means that we can support the

6850
05:15:51.200 --> 05:15:56.240
schools to be really proactive and

6851
05:15:52.878 --> 05:15:57.920
thoughtful. What each one of them needs

6852
05:15:56.240 --> 05:16:00.638
might be a little different based upon

6853
05:15:57.920 --> 05:16:02.798
the community. And so we need to learn

6854
05:16:00.638 --> 05:16:05.280
first from our community and our school

6855
05:16:02.798 --> 05:16:06.878
leaders about the uniqueness of their

6856
05:16:05.280 --> 05:16:08.798
schools. And so we've already started

6857
05:16:06.878 --> 05:16:11.040
meeting with our principles because we

6858
05:16:08.798 --> 05:16:13.600
want to get as proactive as possible

6859
05:16:11.040 --> 05:16:15.840
knowing that the proposal is yet to be

6860
05:16:13.600 --> 05:16:17.760
finalized and voted on. But we can't

6861
05:16:15.840 --> 05:16:21.200
wait for some of these conversations to

6862
05:16:17.760 --> 05:16:23.440
happen. So um just on Monday we brought

6863
05:16:21.200 --> 05:16:24.798
in Dr. Cooney who is a professor at

6864
05:16:23.440 --> 05:16:26.240
University of Northern Colorado. He

6865
05:16:24.798 --> 05:16:29.920
might be one of the only individuals

6866
05:16:26.240 --> 05:16:32.878
that has done a study uh researchbased

6867
05:16:29.920 --> 05:16:35.520
study that's been published around

6868
05:16:32.878 --> 05:16:37.920
consolidation closure and what schools

6869
05:16:35.520 --> 05:16:39.280
need to be thinking about um in this

6870
05:16:37.920 --> 05:16:41.840
space. That was a really great

6871
05:16:39.280 --> 05:16:44.480
discussion. Uh just happened yesterday

6872
05:16:41.840 --> 05:16:47.920
actually because today is Tuesday. Um

6873
05:16:44.480 --> 05:16:53.200
and that led our ability for our leaders

6874
05:16:47.920 --> 05:16:54.400
to work in um collaboration between the

6875
05:16:53.200 --> 05:16:57.600
schools that were going to be

6876
05:16:54.400 --> 05:16:59.440
consolidating into another as well as

6877
05:16:57.600 --> 05:17:00.798
leaders sitting and talking about where

6878
05:16:59.440 --> 05:17:02.400
they're at with their schools. What are

6879
05:17:00.798 --> 05:17:04.878
they thinking about if they are like

6880
05:17:02.400 --> 05:17:08.958
similar schools? So the schools that

6881
05:17:04.878 --> 05:17:10.240
have um that are going to be closed or

6882
05:17:08.958 --> 05:17:15.120
consolidated in other school those

6883
05:17:10.240 --> 05:17:17.680
principles. So let's say flat irons um

6884
05:17:15.120 --> 05:17:19.200
uh Mesa so on so forth came together and

6885
05:17:17.680 --> 05:17:21.200
sat and talked about what some of their

6886
05:17:19.200 --> 05:17:24.080
ideas what are they feeling. So we built

6887
05:17:21.200 --> 05:17:26.400
this collaboration um cohesion component

6888
05:17:24.080 --> 05:17:28.000
with our leaders and then our next move

6889
05:17:26.400 --> 05:17:29.920
is going to be thinking through a

6890
05:17:28.000 --> 05:17:35.200
transition plan specifically for that

6891
05:17:29.920 --> 05:17:37.040
area and ways that we can do things um

6892
05:17:35.200 --> 05:17:38.320
out publicly. Well, we've talked about

6893
05:17:37.040 --> 05:17:40.798
like we've talked about for open

6894
05:17:38.320 --> 05:17:44.160
enrollment, meaning the showcase um

6895
05:17:40.798 --> 05:17:46.480
having a special time for choice uh at

6896
05:17:44.160 --> 05:17:48.400
our show, BBSD is the place to be

6897
05:17:46.480 --> 05:17:50.320
specifically for them, but also what are

6898
05:17:48.400 --> 05:17:52.160
the micro components and I think this is

6899
05:17:50.320 --> 05:17:54.718
where you're getting at that we do

6900
05:17:52.160 --> 05:17:58.000
internally within the schools to bring

6901
05:17:54.718 --> 05:17:59.840
um PTO's together, to bring SAC members

6902
05:17:58.000 --> 05:18:02.000
members together, to bring students

6903
05:17:59.840 --> 05:18:03.200
together and that is going to be

6904
05:18:02.000 --> 05:18:04.878
something that's built throughout the

6905
05:18:03.200 --> 05:18:06.958
course of this year. And we also have to

6906
05:18:04.878 --> 05:18:08.878
remember that this is not just a this

6907
05:18:06.958 --> 05:18:10.958
year thing. It's also going to be a next

6908
05:18:08.878 --> 05:18:13.280
year when it actually comes to be and

6909
05:18:10.958 --> 05:18:15.680
comes to fruition if it passes and you

6910
05:18:13.280 --> 05:18:17.360
vote to approve the proposal. We also

6911
05:18:15.680 --> 05:18:19.440
have to think about what this transition

6912
05:18:17.360 --> 05:18:23.360
is going to be like and how we support

6913
05:18:19.440 --> 05:18:25.920
the um actions from day one of the

6914
05:18:23.360 --> 05:18:27.920
following year. Dr. Anderson, anything

6915
05:18:25.920 --> 05:18:29.600
to add?

6916
05:18:27.920 --> 05:18:31.680
No, I I think that you've done a really

6917
05:18:29.600 --> 05:18:33.680
good job just being mindful and as a

6918
05:18:31.680 --> 05:18:35.600
reminder board, we have set aside

6919
05:18:33.680 --> 05:18:38.240
resources

6920
05:18:35.600 --> 05:18:39.920
um for things like if teachers need

6921
05:18:38.240 --> 05:18:41.360
extra time and pre-planning and we've

6922
05:18:39.920 --> 05:18:43.920
had some of these conversations with

6923
05:18:41.360 --> 05:18:47.360
teacher advisory council and and cabinet

6924
05:18:43.920 --> 05:18:49.920
meetings um if we need uh t you know

6925
05:18:47.360 --> 05:18:51.680
time and dollars for these events to

6926
05:18:49.920 --> 05:18:55.120
bring folks together. I do think that

6927
05:18:51.680 --> 05:18:57.440
that we have to have a a final decision

6928
05:18:55.120 --> 05:19:00.958
from from the board to be able to to to

6929
05:18:57.440 --> 05:19:03.200
to start to do s significant planning.

6930
05:19:00.958 --> 05:19:04.638
Um and then we've really started to lay

6931
05:19:03.200 --> 05:19:06.560
the groundwork, the leadership

6932
05:19:04.638 --> 05:19:08.560
groundwork on if this if this is

6933
05:19:06.560 --> 05:19:10.160
approved by the board, what is that

6934
05:19:08.560 --> 05:19:13.280
going to take from our leaders coming

6935
05:19:10.160 --> 05:19:15.520
together? And one of the ideas that um

6936
05:19:13.280 --> 05:19:17.040
that that I think that we've shared and

6937
05:19:15.520 --> 05:19:20.718
I'm not sure if we shared this on the

6938
05:19:17.040 --> 05:19:23.440
25th is is is utilizing, you know, some

6939
05:19:20.718 --> 05:19:26.320
transitional specialists between schools

6940
05:19:23.440 --> 05:19:27.760
uh that can that that really can help um

6941
05:19:26.320 --> 05:19:28.798
help with some of this because you're

6942
05:19:27.760 --> 05:19:29.760
going to have to support families,

6943
05:19:28.798 --> 05:19:30.718
you're going to have to per support

6944
05:19:29.760 --> 05:19:33.520
kids, you're going to have to support

6945
05:19:30.718 --> 05:19:35.680
our educators as well. Uh so really

6946
05:19:33.520 --> 05:19:38.638
really thoughtful and bringing folks

6947
05:19:35.680 --> 05:19:41.360
together as one community. And I would

6948
05:19:38.638 --> 05:19:43.200
say that the approach we've taken um

6949
05:19:41.360 --> 05:19:44.718
will make that a lot easier than had we

6950
05:19:43.200 --> 05:19:46.080
taken the old approach where we pitted

6951
05:19:44.718 --> 05:19:47.760
communities against each other. There

6952
05:19:46.080 --> 05:19:50.638
was a winner and a loser and the loser

6953
05:19:47.760 --> 05:19:52.798
had to um

6954
05:19:50.638 --> 05:19:54.560
had to merge with the like like like we

6955
05:19:52.798 --> 05:19:56.958
haven't done that in a way where folks

6956
05:19:54.560 --> 05:19:58.718
are fighting with one another. So um I

6957
05:19:56.958 --> 05:20:01.360
do think that that that will help us as

6958
05:19:58.718 --> 05:20:04.798
we transition. Not that it'll be easy um

6959
05:20:01.360 --> 05:20:08.560
but I do think that helps.

6960
05:20:04.798 --> 05:20:10.240
>> Alex and then Jorge. Yeah, I guess um as

6961
05:20:08.560 --> 05:20:11.920
long as we're sort of doing the wrap-up

6962
05:20:10.240 --> 05:20:14.878
issues, I there's a few things I think

6963
05:20:11.920 --> 05:20:18.080
that I've heard in uh in the community

6964
05:20:14.878 --> 05:20:20.000
that I'd like to address headon. Um let

6965
05:20:18.080 --> 05:20:21.920
me just say that at at some level the

6966
05:20:20.000 --> 05:20:24.718
public discourse like everything in

6967
05:20:21.920 --> 05:20:26.718
America is sort of a jumps to conspiracy

6968
05:20:24.718 --> 05:20:28.320
theater and an assumption of malevolence

6969
05:20:26.718 --> 05:20:31.280
of somebody who disagrees with you. And

6970
05:20:28.320 --> 05:20:32.878
I just I just believe that we have been

6971
05:20:31.280 --> 05:20:34.798
transparent. We have been talking from

6972
05:20:32.878 --> 05:20:36.878
the dis. We have been being briefed for

6973
05:20:34.798 --> 05:20:39.520
three years. previous board was briefed

6974
05:20:36.878 --> 05:20:41.760
for three more years. Um, and this the

6975
05:20:39.520 --> 05:20:43.680
ELRACK met monthly, you know, for all

6976
05:20:41.760 --> 05:20:46.080
their time in public. And so this has

6977
05:20:43.680 --> 05:20:47.680
been all done up above board. And and I

6978
05:20:46.080 --> 05:20:49.520
think some people are being maligned

6979
05:20:47.680 --> 05:20:50.958
inappropriately. For like one thing,

6980
05:20:49.520 --> 05:20:52.480
people are talking about the focus

6981
05:20:50.958 --> 05:20:54.240
schools are being relocated as if they

6982
05:20:52.480 --> 05:20:55.920
bid for their new location and they're

6983
05:20:54.240 --> 05:20:58.798
taking this building because they wanted

6984
05:20:55.920 --> 05:21:00.718
it. Um, question. Did any of our focus

6985
05:20:58.798 --> 05:21:02.878
schools request their new building or

6986
05:21:00.718 --> 05:21:03.840
lobby you to get a new building?

6987
05:21:02.878 --> 05:21:09.120
>> No.

6988
05:21:03.840 --> 05:21:12.958
>> All right. Secondly, um when we look at

6989
05:21:09.120 --> 05:21:16.160
uh delay and the fact that delay is

6990
05:21:12.958 --> 05:21:18.878
perceived by some people as costless,

6991
05:21:16.160 --> 05:21:21.600
um like do you have any estimate of how

6992
05:21:18.878 --> 05:21:23.920
much staff time has gone into the last

6993
05:21:21.600 --> 05:21:27.200
since the board said we're impatient

6994
05:21:23.920 --> 05:21:30.000
with LROCK, let's make a bold change. Um

6995
05:21:27.200 --> 05:21:31.680
like that is an opportunity cost of all

6996
05:21:30.000 --> 05:21:33.760
the other priorities we have as a

6997
05:21:31.680 --> 05:21:35.360
community and a board. And the idea that

6998
05:21:33.760 --> 05:21:37.520
we would go through another year or two

6999
05:21:35.360 --> 05:21:39.520
of that and just put all the other

7000
05:21:37.520 --> 05:21:42.000
things that you guys have had to and

7001
05:21:39.520 --> 05:21:43.920
gals have had to put into your life over

7002
05:21:42.000 --> 05:21:45.840
the last 6 months and put it on a shelf

7003
05:21:43.920 --> 05:21:48.320
and wait another year. Anybody got a

7004
05:21:45.840 --> 05:21:50.160
take on how much what the cost of delay

7005
05:21:48.320 --> 05:21:52.560
actually is?

7006
05:21:50.160 --> 05:21:54.000
I I put it in, you know, two or three

7007
05:21:52.560 --> 05:21:56.080
other priorities that we want to make

7008
05:21:54.000 --> 05:22:01.120
change on. Whether it's implementing a

7009
05:21:56.080 --> 05:22:04.638
strong uh uh anti-discrimination, anti-

7010
05:22:01.120 --> 05:22:06.400
uh semitism policy, whether it's working

7011
05:22:04.638 --> 05:22:08.000
with schools in middle schools and high

7012
05:22:06.400 --> 05:22:09.280
schools, which aren't affected by this,

7013
05:22:08.000 --> 05:22:11.040
on what they're doing for improvement,

7014
05:22:09.280 --> 05:22:13.280
and Neil's staff are all sucked into

7015
05:22:11.040 --> 05:22:16.000
this. Anybody want to estimate what the

7016
05:22:13.280 --> 05:22:17.520
cost of delay might be?

7017
05:22:16.000 --> 05:22:18.958
Board member Medler, I would just

7018
05:22:17.520 --> 05:22:20.480
encourage you to look at who's at this

7019
05:22:18.958 --> 05:22:22.240
table and look who's in the audience and

7020
05:22:20.480 --> 05:22:23.600
who's been here all day long to be able

7021
05:22:22.240 --> 05:22:25.760
to answer your question and the

7022
05:22:23.600 --> 05:22:27.760
community's question. That's one day of

7023
05:22:25.760 --> 05:22:31.600
a 261day

7024
05:22:27.760 --> 05:22:37.760
work calendar for most senior staff. Uh

7025
05:22:31.600 --> 05:22:42.878
it is emotional. It is tiring. It is uh

7026
05:22:37.760 --> 05:22:45.280
challenging and uh it is uh very very

7027
05:22:42.878 --> 05:22:48.080
difficult to meet the other goals that

7028
05:22:45.280 --> 05:22:52.000
our community and district have and

7029
05:22:48.080 --> 05:22:56.718
continue to to to keep up the level of

7030
05:22:52.000 --> 05:22:58.958
of effort and focus um on on on this

7031
05:22:56.718 --> 05:23:03.440
topic. Um I don't know that it would be

7032
05:22:58.958 --> 05:23:06.480
sustainable uh to to to delay this uh

7033
05:23:03.440 --> 05:23:09.120
and wi-i with the idea that you know

7034
05:23:06.480 --> 05:23:13.040
board members you've asked us

7035
05:23:09.120 --> 05:23:16.320
you've told us small schools right

7036
05:23:13.040 --> 05:23:18.798
schools can't stand can't stay small. Uh

7037
05:23:16.320 --> 05:23:21.760
if you look at the list we're addressing

7038
05:23:18.798 --> 05:23:23.920
all the smallest schools

7039
05:23:21.760 --> 05:23:27.040
in the district.

7040
05:23:23.920 --> 05:23:30.080
So, uh, if you were to ask to delay and

7041
05:23:27.040 --> 05:23:32.080
continue to to move forward, right,

7042
05:23:30.080 --> 05:23:33.360
you're you're still, you know, the where

7043
05:23:32.080 --> 05:23:34.718
people live is where they live. Where

7044
05:23:33.360 --> 05:23:36.958
the schools are are where they are.

7045
05:23:34.718 --> 05:23:39.440
Those those factors don't change. The

7046
05:23:36.958 --> 05:23:42.080
projections are the projections, right?

7047
05:23:39.440 --> 05:23:44.320
And I know that this is hard, right? But

7048
05:23:42.080 --> 05:23:46.638
delaying it doesn't make it easier.

7049
05:23:44.320 --> 05:23:48.638
>> Thank you. Another one I've heard

7050
05:23:46.638 --> 05:23:50.240
regularly from the field is, and this

7051
05:23:48.638 --> 05:23:52.480
one kind of wrankles me a bit to be

7052
05:23:50.240 --> 05:23:54.400
honest, that like my questions about

7053
05:23:52.480 --> 05:23:56.400
transition are taking in evidence that

7054
05:23:54.400 --> 05:23:58.000
some decisions already been made or the

7055
05:23:56.400 --> 05:23:59.680
fact that we hire consultants to help us

7056
05:23:58.000 --> 05:24:02.878
engage the public means that we've

7057
05:23:59.680 --> 05:24:04.878
already made our decisions. Um, I for

7058
05:24:02.878 --> 05:24:06.878
one, I guess this is just a statement,

7059
05:24:04.878 --> 05:24:09.120
believe that asking hard questions and

7060
05:24:06.878 --> 05:24:10.240
planning for transitions when the board

7061
05:24:09.120 --> 05:24:12.560
has said we're going to make these

7062
05:24:10.240 --> 05:24:14.160
changes is the responsible thing to do,

7063
05:24:12.560 --> 05:24:16.400
not the irresponsible or somehow

7064
05:24:14.160 --> 05:24:19.360
conspiratorial thing to do. And so, I

7065
05:24:16.400 --> 05:24:21.360
totally defend my questions and asks for

7066
05:24:19.360 --> 05:24:23.280
us to plan as if we're closing schools

7067
05:24:21.360 --> 05:24:25.440
because I think we will. And if we were

7068
05:24:23.280 --> 05:24:27.600
to wait to have discussions about what

7069
05:24:25.440 --> 05:24:29.440
the postclosure plannings are and

7070
05:24:27.600 --> 05:24:31.200
somehow to prove that no decisions were

7071
05:24:29.440 --> 05:24:33.040
made, we'd be doing performing

7072
05:24:31.200 --> 05:24:36.320
malpractice to our community and our

7073
05:24:33.040 --> 05:24:39.040
kids. And so I just I just uh want to

7074
05:24:36.320 --> 05:24:41.360
give uh I want to push back on the

7075
05:24:39.040 --> 05:24:43.680
concept that like all the research that

7076
05:24:41.360 --> 05:24:46.400
you did, all the planning that you've

7077
05:24:43.680 --> 05:24:47.920
done, all the work on, you know,

7078
05:24:46.400 --> 05:24:51.280
transitions that we're prepping for so

7079
05:24:47.920 --> 05:24:53.440
that when we when we do vote uh soon

7080
05:24:51.280 --> 05:24:55.120
that that all the next work can happen.

7081
05:24:53.440 --> 05:24:57.760
So I if you could speak to the

7082
05:24:55.120 --> 05:25:00.160
importance of like doing our homework

7083
05:24:57.760 --> 05:25:01.280
before so that we can plan to do work

7084
05:25:00.160 --> 05:25:02.560
when we know we're going to have to do

7085
05:25:01.280 --> 05:25:04.400
it.

7086
05:25:02.560 --> 05:25:06.560
Thank you, board member Medler. I I do

7087
05:25:04.400 --> 05:25:10.600
appreciate uh those comments and this

7088
05:25:06.560 --> 05:25:10.600
question. Uh

7089
05:25:11.440 --> 05:25:15.240
it is um

7090
05:25:16.798 --> 05:25:23.360
I I do think that you know um

7091
05:25:20.638 --> 05:25:25.040
to do something well, you always have to

7092
05:25:23.360 --> 05:25:26.878
not only look in front of you, but you

7093
05:25:25.040 --> 05:25:28.400
have your eyes on the horizon on what's

7094
05:25:26.878 --> 05:25:31.520
coming and what you need to do to be

7095
05:25:28.400 --> 05:25:33.200
ready. Uh, and so to the extent that

7096
05:25:31.520 --> 05:25:34.878
there have been efforts to think about

7097
05:25:33.200 --> 05:25:37.200
what this looks like on the other side,

7098
05:25:34.878 --> 05:25:39.680
if the board bo the board would vote

7099
05:25:37.200 --> 05:25:41.120
yes, I would be a bad superintendent.

7100
05:25:39.680 --> 05:25:42.878
Um, and I would be failing our

7101
05:25:41.120 --> 05:25:45.520
organization and our community and our

7102
05:25:42.878 --> 05:25:48.718
families if I wasn't doing some of that.

7103
05:25:45.520 --> 05:25:51.200
Uh, because there's time is a limiting

7104
05:25:48.718 --> 05:25:54.400
factor and taking enough time to

7105
05:25:51.200 --> 05:25:57.600
deliberate and engage. Um, I think we've

7106
05:25:54.400 --> 05:26:00.240
we've thought through all of this for uh

7107
05:25:57.600 --> 05:26:04.400
since last October, since you charged

7108
05:26:00.240 --> 05:26:06.160
the the the staff with doing this.

7109
05:26:04.400 --> 05:26:08.400
I also want to be empathetic to our

7110
05:26:06.160 --> 05:26:10.160
families who are um who love their

7111
05:26:08.400 --> 05:26:15.520
schools, who love their teachers, whose

7112
05:26:10.160 --> 05:26:17.600
kids are happy. I'm a parent and uh um I

7113
05:26:15.520 --> 05:26:19.600
understand what that means when your

7114
05:26:17.600 --> 05:26:22.160
kids are doing well and if if there's

7115
05:26:19.600 --> 05:26:26.160
change that there's even a slight chance

7116
05:26:22.160 --> 05:26:27.840
that that um that changes.

7117
05:26:26.160 --> 05:26:29.440
And uh you know, we had a always a

7118
05:26:27.840 --> 05:26:31.040
saying in in in my house, you know,

7119
05:26:29.440 --> 05:26:34.798
we're always as happy as our least happy

7120
05:26:31.040 --> 05:26:37.600
kid. And um I think that holds true to

7121
05:26:34.798 --> 05:26:41.520
families who care about and love their

7122
05:26:37.600 --> 05:26:44.480
kids. And uh I know that there's been

7123
05:26:41.520 --> 05:26:47.360
lots of community feedback on our plans,

7124
05:26:44.480 --> 05:26:49.760
questions, um concerns, and I actually

7125
05:26:47.360 --> 05:26:52.638
think that that's right. I think that

7126
05:26:49.760 --> 05:26:55.360
that a smart, educated,

7127
05:26:52.638 --> 05:26:57.120
responsible community should do that.

7128
05:26:55.360 --> 05:26:58.798
And I also understand everybody loves

7129
05:26:57.120 --> 05:27:00.400
their kids and would do about anything

7130
05:26:58.798 --> 05:27:01.840
they could in their power to protect

7131
05:27:00.400 --> 05:27:06.400
their kids because that's what I would

7132
05:27:01.840 --> 05:27:09.200
do as a dad, too. So, um I understand I

7133
05:27:06.400 --> 05:27:12.240
don't take personally um the questioning

7134
05:27:09.200 --> 05:27:15.600
the the the the pushing back. I think

7135
05:27:12.240 --> 05:27:17.680
that that is is actually okay. It is my

7136
05:27:15.600 --> 05:27:20.160
job as superintendent. It is our job as

7137
05:27:17.680 --> 05:27:21.920
staff to come back and answer the

7138
05:27:20.160 --> 05:27:25.040
questions which I believe we've done

7139
05:27:21.920 --> 05:27:26.400
today uh to valid to to to share with

7140
05:27:25.040 --> 05:27:28.958
folks. Here are the numbers, here are

7141
05:27:26.400 --> 05:27:32.798
the sources, here's where some of that

7142
05:27:28.958 --> 05:27:35.600
maybe there is a disconnect. Um, I do

7143
05:27:32.798 --> 05:27:37.360
know this that that um that families

7144
05:27:35.600 --> 05:27:38.878
love their teachers. We love their

7145
05:27:37.360 --> 05:27:41.760
teachers. They love their schools. We

7146
05:27:38.878 --> 05:27:43.680
love their schools. And it'll be my job

7147
05:27:41.760 --> 05:27:46.320
and the job of everybody at this table

7148
05:27:43.680 --> 05:27:48.480
and everybody down this row over here to

7149
05:27:46.320 --> 05:27:50.798
make sure that we if this plan is

7150
05:27:48.480 --> 05:27:52.558
approved that we take care of all of our

7151
05:27:50.798 --> 05:27:56.280
families and all of our kids just like

7152
05:27:52.558 --> 05:27:56.280
we're doing right now.

7153
05:27:57.840 --> 05:28:02.798
>> One last piece, one last point on this.

7154
05:27:59.840 --> 05:28:06.080
I just I I couldn't agree more. Um I've

7155
05:28:02.798 --> 05:28:08.958
worked in policy for uh close to 37

7156
05:28:06.080 --> 05:28:10.638
years and early learned that whenever I

7157
05:28:08.958 --> 05:28:11.680
felt the strongest that I was absolutely

7158
05:28:10.638 --> 05:28:13.360
right and the other people were

7159
05:28:11.680 --> 05:28:14.718
absolutely wrong that that was

7160
05:28:13.360 --> 05:28:18.320
absolutely an indication that I was

7161
05:28:14.718 --> 05:28:20.000
wrong about both. Um and so I I am

7162
05:28:18.320 --> 05:28:21.840
grateful for the input that we've got

7163
05:28:20.000 --> 05:28:24.718
during the engagement process when about

7164
05:28:21.840 --> 05:28:26.718
800 people gave us 7,000 pieces of data.

7165
05:28:24.718 --> 05:28:28.638
And I am grateful for the 600 plus

7166
05:28:26.718 --> 05:28:31.520
emails that I have received and the 200

7167
05:28:28.638 --> 05:28:33.280
people that testified. And I still

7168
05:28:31.520 --> 05:28:34.878
remain like many of us on the board

7169
05:28:33.280 --> 05:28:37.200
committed to doing what's right for kids

7170
05:28:34.878 --> 05:28:39.280
and right sizing it so that we can be

7171
05:28:37.200 --> 05:28:41.040
focused on kids. But I really believe

7172
05:28:39.280 --> 05:28:42.558
that the things that we have been

7173
05:28:41.040 --> 05:28:44.160
talking about over the last few weeks

7174
05:28:42.558 --> 05:28:47.040
and that we'll continue to talk about as

7175
05:28:44.160 --> 05:28:49.280
a community, they raise challenges for

7176
05:28:47.040 --> 05:28:50.958
us in implementation. They raise

7177
05:28:49.280 --> 05:28:53.520
challenges us for the final decision-

7178
05:28:50.958 --> 05:28:55.360
making and how how we shape it and that

7179
05:28:53.520 --> 05:28:58.000
we can do that as a board in a way that

7180
05:28:55.360 --> 05:29:00.400
is very kid focused and that can honor

7181
05:28:58.000 --> 05:29:02.400
all the fantastic observations and

7182
05:29:00.400 --> 05:29:05.600
points that our community have made in

7183
05:29:02.400 --> 05:29:07.600
those uh you know 1600 hours of input

7184
05:29:05.600 --> 05:29:10.638
we've got. So, I I'm grateful for it,

7185
05:29:07.600 --> 05:29:12.958
too. And I and I recognize my original

7186
05:29:10.638 --> 05:29:14.400
assumptions are challenged regularly by

7187
05:29:12.958 --> 05:29:16.480
that. And I've learned a lot from the

7188
05:29:14.400 --> 05:29:19.680
input myself that I've received. And I

7189
05:29:16.480 --> 05:29:21.760
really appreciate the your team's uh

7190
05:29:19.680 --> 05:29:23.600
ability to like dive in with us deeply

7191
05:29:21.760 --> 05:29:26.320
into those questions uh today and

7192
05:29:23.600 --> 05:29:29.920
before. So, I really appreciate that.

7193
05:29:26.320 --> 05:29:32.160
>> Jorge then Melania,

7194
05:29:29.920 --> 05:29:34.400
>> thank you. I want to start by thanking

7195
05:29:32.160 --> 05:29:36.240
um all the parents who came to raise

7196
05:29:34.400 --> 05:29:38.000
questions and share their thoughts. at

7197
05:29:36.240 --> 05:29:40.240
our last meeting. Um the ones who are

7198
05:29:38.000 --> 05:29:41.360
here today, um I think it's, you know,

7199
05:29:40.240 --> 05:29:42.878
they're doing their job. They're

7200
05:29:41.360 --> 05:29:44.080
advocating for their kids. They're

7201
05:29:42.878 --> 05:29:45.760
advocating for their teachers, their

7202
05:29:44.080 --> 05:29:48.080
community. They're raising important

7203
05:29:45.760 --> 05:29:50.080
questions um that we need to answer. Um

7204
05:29:48.080 --> 05:29:51.680
that's our role. And so I want to thank

7205
05:29:50.080 --> 05:29:52.958
the staff for being here today and for

7206
05:29:51.680 --> 05:29:55.120
systematically going through and

7207
05:29:52.958 --> 05:29:56.558
addressing all those questions and being

7208
05:29:55.120 --> 05:29:57.840
transparent and trying to share

7209
05:29:56.558 --> 05:29:59.600
information, as much information as

7210
05:29:57.840 --> 05:30:00.878
possible. Um so I think it's really

7211
05:29:59.600 --> 05:30:02.240
important. I don't know when this video

7212
05:30:00.878 --> 05:30:04.400
will be available, but I hope that will

7213
05:30:02.240 --> 05:30:05.760
be soon and that will be publicly shared

7214
05:30:04.400 --> 05:30:07.200
because I think a lot of questions were

7215
05:30:05.760 --> 05:30:09.840
answered today. So, I really appreciate

7216
05:30:07.200 --> 05:30:12.958
that. Um, a couple uh random, not

7217
05:30:09.840 --> 05:30:14.798
random, but multi-topic questions. Um, I

7218
05:30:12.958 --> 05:30:17.760
I want to reinforce uh the point of the

7219
05:30:14.798 --> 05:30:19.680
transition to the degree possible. Um to

7220
05:30:17.760 --> 05:30:23.440
Alex's earlier point, you know, if we

7221
05:30:19.680 --> 05:30:26.160
could allow students to return to their

7222
05:30:23.440 --> 05:30:28.080
their neighborhood school and facilitate

7223
05:30:26.160 --> 05:30:30.638
as much as possible, then that should be

7224
05:30:28.080 --> 05:30:32.638
a part of the process for these students

7225
05:30:30.638 --> 05:30:34.878
um to facilitate that. It won't be easy,

7226
05:30:32.638 --> 05:30:36.798
right? Any change, but to the degree

7227
05:30:34.878 --> 05:30:40.718
that we can, I I think that's really

7228
05:30:36.798 --> 05:30:43.040
important. Um our estimates

7229
05:30:40.718 --> 05:30:45.280
show savings of three and a half to$4

7230
05:30:43.040 --> 05:30:46.320
million that will be reinvested in

7231
05:30:45.280 --> 05:30:48.558
students. This is a really student-

7232
05:30:46.320 --> 05:30:49.360
centered program or change across the

7233
05:30:48.558 --> 05:30:50.718
district. I think that's really

7234
05:30:49.360 --> 05:30:52.320
important. But I seem to recall there

7235
05:30:50.718 --> 05:30:56.240
was also an additional million in

7236
05:30:52.320 --> 05:30:58.400
savings from administration um changes,

7237
05:30:56.240 --> 05:30:59.680
central administration changes from last

7238
05:30:58.400 --> 05:31:00.718
May or June that I think weren't

7239
05:30:59.680 --> 05:31:02.480
addressed here. I'd like to hear more

7240
05:31:00.718 --> 05:31:05.360
about that and how that fits in this big

7241
05:31:02.480 --> 05:31:08.320
picture. Um but before that, I I also

7242
05:31:05.360 --> 05:31:10.480
want to say um this is really a

7243
05:31:08.320 --> 05:31:12.000
district-wide student centered program.

7244
05:31:10.480 --> 05:31:13.760
since I joined the board and before that

7245
05:31:12.000 --> 05:31:15.920
on the district accountability committee

7246
05:31:13.760 --> 05:31:17.280
um you know going back eight years now

7247
05:31:15.920 --> 05:31:18.558
uh we were discussing about the problem

7248
05:31:17.280 --> 05:31:20.480
of declining enrollment and what it

7249
05:31:18.558 --> 05:31:22.240
meant for the quality of our ability to

7250
05:31:20.480 --> 05:31:24.080
serve our students right and so I was

7251
05:31:22.240 --> 05:31:26.878
hearing from parents who were concerned

7252
05:31:24.080 --> 05:31:28.240
about resources for special education

7253
05:31:26.878 --> 05:31:30.080
access to advanced and gifted

7254
05:31:28.240 --> 05:31:31.680
programming um the ability to have

7255
05:31:30.080 --> 05:31:33.200
specials a librarian in your school

7256
05:31:31.680 --> 05:31:35.440
because books matter so much in the

7257
05:31:33.200 --> 05:31:37.120
lives of our kids um and that we weren't

7258
05:31:35.440 --> 05:31:38.320
able to do that for many schools or that

7259
05:31:37.120 --> 05:31:40.000
there's increased mental health needs

7260
05:31:38.320 --> 05:31:41.040
for our students at at the elementary

7261
05:31:40.000 --> 05:31:42.958
level. We don't have counselors in our

7262
05:31:41.040 --> 05:31:44.400
schools or school psychologists and that

7263
05:31:42.958 --> 05:31:46.958
as our schools get smaller, we can't

7264
05:31:44.400 --> 05:31:49.040
serve those things. And this plan

7265
05:31:46.958 --> 05:31:50.558
proposes to reinvest those and make

7266
05:31:49.040 --> 05:31:52.718
those more equitable and more accessible

7267
05:31:50.558 --> 05:31:56.240
across the school. At the core of why

7268
05:31:52.718 --> 05:31:58.718
I'm here is our strategic plan, right?

7269
05:31:56.240 --> 05:32:00.558
We look great. We're doing great. We can

7270
05:31:58.718 --> 05:32:02.480
do better. We're missing kids. We need

7271
05:32:00.558 --> 05:32:04.080
to have the ability to differentiate to

7272
05:32:02.480 --> 05:32:05.280
serve our kids across our school and to

7273
05:32:04.080 --> 05:32:06.320
make that equitable so it's doesn't

7274
05:32:05.280 --> 05:32:07.760
matter where you go to school that

7275
05:32:06.320 --> 05:32:09.920
you're able to get those resources. So,

7276
05:32:07.760 --> 05:32:11.840
I really appreciate that focus on this

7277
05:32:09.920 --> 05:32:13.520
plan. It's it's a difficult change. It's

7278
05:32:11.840 --> 05:32:15.120
a necessary change. At times, I'm

7279
05:32:13.520 --> 05:32:17.120
thinking, are we doing enough in terms

7280
05:32:15.120 --> 05:32:19.280
of that change, but this is a measured

7281
05:32:17.120 --> 05:32:20.878
response and I think we're going in the

7282
05:32:19.280 --> 05:32:23.600
right direction. And so, I appreciate

7283
05:32:20.878 --> 05:32:25.680
the the opportunity today to kind of go

7284
05:32:23.600 --> 05:32:27.760
through these data and really understand

7285
05:32:25.680 --> 05:32:29.200
kind of what our decision-m processes

7286
05:32:27.760 --> 05:32:32.400
look like and where the information is

7287
05:32:29.200 --> 05:32:34.080
coming from. Thank you.

7288
05:32:32.400 --> 05:32:35.760
>> Thank you, board member Chavez. I

7289
05:32:34.080 --> 05:32:37.680
appreciate that perspective. I would say

7290
05:32:35.760 --> 05:32:39.920
that the million dollars you're

7291
05:32:37.680 --> 05:32:42.638
referencing is a million dollars that I

7292
05:32:39.920 --> 05:32:45.840
allocated at the end of the budget

7293
05:32:42.638 --> 05:32:48.400
process last year um through reductions,

7294
05:32:45.840 --> 05:32:50.798
central office reductions to ensure that

7295
05:32:48.400 --> 05:32:53.360
this year and moving forward we had have

7296
05:32:50.798 --> 05:32:56.240
those resources to ensure that students

7297
05:32:53.360 --> 05:32:58.718
weren't in multi-age classes in programs

7298
05:32:56.240 --> 05:33:00.638
that aren't designed to be multi-age. Uh

7299
05:32:58.718 --> 05:33:03.040
and so those but you know through

7300
05:33:00.638 --> 05:33:05.680
through this plan as as the other Dr.

7301
05:33:03.040 --> 05:33:08.400
Anderson shared, maybe I'll be the other

7302
05:33:05.680 --> 05:33:10.798
Dr. Anderson, Dr. Neil Anderson shared

7303
05:33:08.400 --> 05:33:12.798
um that that this plan eliminates the

7304
05:33:10.798 --> 05:33:15.120
need for those additional resources. So

7305
05:33:12.798 --> 05:33:17.840
that that pool of three and a half to$4

7306
05:33:15.120 --> 05:33:21.120
million is a pool of four and a half

7307
05:33:17.840 --> 05:33:24.080
to$5 million recurring. And that's

7308
05:33:21.120 --> 05:33:26.160
important because uh as as as Bill has

7309
05:33:24.080 --> 05:33:28.878
shared, that is something that when you

7310
05:33:26.160 --> 05:33:31.040
invest, it's not a one-year fix. It's

7311
05:33:28.878 --> 05:33:33.440
it's dollars that we can reinvest year

7312
05:33:31.040 --> 05:33:35.360
in and year out. And the dollars are

7313
05:33:33.440 --> 05:33:38.160
flexible to make sure that we're doing

7314
05:33:35.360 --> 05:33:40.480
as much as we can to lower the overall

7315
05:33:38.160 --> 05:33:42.320
class size average, eliminate some of

7316
05:33:40.480 --> 05:33:45.200
the the class sizes that were on the

7317
05:33:42.320 --> 05:33:47.600
higher end, um, and reduce that range

7318
05:33:45.200 --> 05:33:49.680
from low to high to ensure that we're

7319
05:33:47.600 --> 05:33:52.718
getting a more unified and better

7320
05:33:49.680 --> 05:33:54.480
experience. board members, you know that

7321
05:33:52.718 --> 05:33:56.480
during the course of the of the first

7322
05:33:54.480 --> 05:33:59.040
month of school and the and the summer

7323
05:33:56.480 --> 05:34:00.878
leading up, the most feedback that we'll

7324
05:33:59.040 --> 05:34:02.718
get from our community is typically from

7325
05:34:00.878 --> 05:34:04.798
elementary school parents worrying about

7326
05:34:02.718 --> 05:34:06.878
class size. Parents start worrying about

7327
05:34:04.798 --> 05:34:09.360
class size for the next year in January

7328
05:34:06.878 --> 05:34:11.680
of the previous year and start advocacy

7329
05:34:09.360 --> 05:34:13.600
efforts that are well known in our

7330
05:34:11.680 --> 05:34:15.520
community. Start emailing folks because

7331
05:34:13.600 --> 05:34:17.120
we need to be able to try to get this,

7332
05:34:15.520 --> 05:34:19.440
you know, we're two students away, we're

7333
05:34:17.120 --> 05:34:22.320
three students away. those are that's

7334
05:34:19.440 --> 05:34:25.040
that's that's an effect of small schools

7335
05:34:22.320 --> 05:34:28.638
um and lacks lack of ongoing resources

7336
05:34:25.040 --> 05:34:30.558
to be able to address those things. So

7337
05:34:28.638 --> 05:34:32.240
um I'll say that that that those dollars

7338
05:34:30.558 --> 05:34:34.638
are recurring and those dollars will be

7339
05:34:32.240 --> 05:34:36.400
repurposed for what it is our community

7340
05:34:34.638 --> 05:34:39.400
very clearly told us that they've

7341
05:34:36.400 --> 05:34:39.400
prioritized.

7342
05:34:39.680 --> 05:34:42.680
Elenia

7343
05:34:42.718 --> 05:34:46.240
and given our last conversation, we'll

7344
05:34:44.718 --> 05:34:48.718
make sure that's transparent that we're

7345
05:34:46.240 --> 05:34:50.000
doing that, right? And and Alex brought

7346
05:34:48.718 --> 05:34:52.240
that up and I think that's super

7347
05:34:50.000 --> 05:34:53.440
important. I've had several people say,

7348
05:34:52.240 --> 05:34:56.320
well, you can say you're going to do

7349
05:34:53.440 --> 05:34:57.760
that and not do it. And I said to them,

7350
05:34:56.320 --> 05:34:59.440
I'm going to say, Rob, you're going to

7351
05:34:57.760 --> 05:35:02.400
do it and you're going to go, yeah, I am

7352
05:34:59.440 --> 05:35:04.798
right. That that's our job as a board.

7353
05:35:02.400 --> 05:35:08.798
Um I didn't mean just me. I meant as a

7354
05:35:04.798 --> 05:35:11.840
board, sir. Um,

7355
05:35:08.798 --> 05:35:14.000
I think there's another cost to waiting

7356
05:35:11.840 --> 05:35:17.280
that um is additional to what Alex

7357
05:35:14.000 --> 05:35:18.878
brought up and that is a cost to

7358
05:35:17.280 --> 05:35:20.638
students who are not getting their needs

7359
05:35:18.878 --> 05:35:24.080
met because the resources aren't at

7360
05:35:20.638 --> 05:35:26.000
their school. And

7361
05:35:24.080 --> 05:35:29.280
these are people that I've heard from

7362
05:35:26.000 --> 05:35:30.958
year in year out before this.

7363
05:35:29.280 --> 05:35:33.840
um

7364
05:35:30.958 --> 05:35:36.558
my kid cannot take advanced math because

7365
05:35:33.840 --> 05:35:38.798
we don't have advanced math because we

7366
05:35:36.558 --> 05:35:40.638
don't have three rounds or my kid needs

7367
05:35:38.798 --> 05:35:42.878
more literacy intervention but the

7368
05:35:40.638 --> 05:35:46.718
literacy interventionist is only there

7369
05:35:42.878 --> 05:35:49.760
two days a week. So those there is an

7370
05:35:46.718 --> 05:35:54.080
opportunity cost or a cost to our

7371
05:35:49.760 --> 05:35:57.280
students to do nothing. And while I'll

7372
05:35:54.080 --> 05:36:01.120
echo Jorge, and Jorge was echoing me,

7373
05:35:57.280 --> 05:36:03.440
that I wish the cuts were deeper, I'm

7374
05:36:01.120 --> 05:36:07.920
not going to say that they're not doing

7375
05:36:03.440 --> 05:36:10.558
what they're intended to do. Um, because

7376
05:36:07.920 --> 05:36:13.280
I've heard from a lot of parents who

7377
05:36:10.558 --> 05:36:15.440
their kid is doing wonderful, and I am

7378
05:36:13.280 --> 05:36:17.280
so happy to hear from them. I will

7379
05:36:15.440 --> 05:36:21.280
continue to talk to any parents who want

7380
05:36:17.280 --> 05:36:22.638
to speak with me. I I love when kids are

7381
05:36:21.280 --> 05:36:24.400
doing wonderful, when they're operating

7382
05:36:22.638 --> 05:36:25.920
at grade level on the middle of the bell

7383
05:36:24.400 --> 05:36:31.680
curve,

7384
05:36:25.920 --> 05:36:34.080
but my job is that when that child has a

7385
05:36:31.680 --> 05:36:35.840
need at either end of the bell curve or

7386
05:36:34.080 --> 05:36:38.558
they have a tragedy in their life and

7387
05:36:35.840 --> 05:36:41.280
they need counseling support in their

7388
05:36:38.558 --> 05:36:45.360
school, whatever it may be, my job is to

7389
05:36:41.280 --> 05:36:47.520
make sure that resource is there.

7390
05:36:45.360 --> 05:36:49.360
So,

7391
05:36:47.520 --> 05:36:51.360
while I will continue to say to every

7392
05:36:49.360 --> 05:36:53.440
parent, I'm glad your kid's doing well.

7393
05:36:51.360 --> 05:36:55.200
My job is the moment your kid's not

7394
05:36:53.440 --> 05:36:56.638
doing well, the resource better darn

7395
05:36:55.200 --> 05:37:00.320
well be there in their elementary

7396
05:36:56.638 --> 05:37:04.638
school. So, I I'm signaling my support

7397
05:37:00.320 --> 05:37:06.080
for this. Um, I'm very clear on it. I'll

7398
05:37:04.638 --> 05:37:08.638
continue to talk to anybody who wants to

7399
05:37:06.080 --> 05:37:11.440
talk about it up until the vote, but I

7400
05:37:08.638 --> 05:37:13.200
am signaling strongly my support because

7401
05:37:11.440 --> 05:37:16.798
that is my job to make sure those

7402
05:37:13.200 --> 05:37:16.798
resources are there.

7403
05:37:18.638 --> 05:37:21.638
Anna,

7404
05:37:22.718 --> 05:37:27.760
thank you. I uh do want to thank um

7405
05:37:25.920 --> 05:37:29.600
everyone here for the time that you've

7406
05:37:27.760 --> 05:37:33.440
taken to answer all of the questions

7407
05:37:29.600 --> 05:37:36.638
that uh we've had. Um,

7408
05:37:33.440 --> 05:37:38.798
I recently had a conversation with a

7409
05:37:36.638 --> 05:37:41.520
friend uh who lives in a neighboring

7410
05:37:38.798 --> 05:37:44.160
school district and uh their children

7411
05:37:41.520 --> 05:37:47.760
are just about to enter uh into

7412
05:37:44.160 --> 05:37:49.680
kindergarten and they did research over

7413
05:37:47.760 --> 05:37:51.120
five different schools of which one was

7414
05:37:49.680 --> 05:37:54.320
going to be the best for their their

7415
05:37:51.120 --> 05:37:56.798
kiddos. And um they asked me, "Well,

7416
05:37:54.320 --> 05:37:59.600
well, how many schools did you look

7417
05:37:56.798 --> 05:38:02.160
into? Did you research?" And it was a

7418
05:37:59.600 --> 05:38:05.840
very uh very big moment of pride for me

7419
05:38:02.160 --> 05:38:08.080
to say, well, I live within BBSD and I

7420
05:38:05.840 --> 05:38:11.760
want to make sure that we are able to

7421
05:38:08.080 --> 05:38:15.120
continue that promise of ensuring that

7422
05:38:11.760 --> 05:38:18.480
the the quality of education um within

7423
05:38:15.120 --> 05:38:24.000
our school district is there. And as a

7424
05:38:18.480 --> 05:38:26.400
BVSD alumni, I um there is a a very big

7425
05:38:24.000 --> 05:38:29.760
group of students and of community

7426
05:38:26.400 --> 05:38:32.798
members that are not here. Uh we have a

7427
05:38:29.760 --> 05:38:35.280
very huge privilege of being able to be

7428
05:38:32.798 --> 05:38:37.760
civically engaged and advocate and ask

7429
05:38:35.280 --> 05:38:40.638
the questions and want to have the

7430
05:38:37.760 --> 05:38:43.200
amount of detail and specificity of

7431
05:38:40.638 --> 05:38:46.718
really understanding and knowing what a

7432
05:38:43.200 --> 05:38:49.360
budget what um classroom capacities is

7433
05:38:46.718 --> 05:38:53.120
like. And I as a first generation

7434
05:38:49.360 --> 05:38:57.520
citizen having immigrant parents, I know

7435
05:38:53.120 --> 05:38:59.680
what I remember the moment where my mom

7436
05:38:57.520 --> 05:39:02.000
could no longer relate to my own

7437
05:38:59.680 --> 05:39:04.718
educational experience because it wasn't

7438
05:39:02.000 --> 05:39:07.680
something she went through. And I know

7439
05:39:04.718 --> 05:39:09.920
that as a first generation citizen, we

7440
05:39:07.680 --> 05:39:12.240
have that responsibility to all of the

7441
05:39:09.920 --> 05:39:13.840
kids that are immigrants in our district

7442
05:39:12.240 --> 05:39:17.200
that are first generation, second

7443
05:39:13.840 --> 05:39:20.320
generation that don't have someone that

7444
05:39:17.200 --> 05:39:22.878
has been through a K through 12, has

7445
05:39:20.320 --> 05:39:25.200
gone through to higher ed. We have that

7446
05:39:22.878 --> 05:39:27.760
responsibility to make sure that we give

7447
05:39:25.200 --> 05:39:30.558
them those resources within this

7448
05:39:27.760 --> 05:39:32.080
district because for a lot of the uh a

7449
05:39:30.558 --> 05:39:34.878
lot of those kids, they're they're

7450
05:39:32.080 --> 05:39:37.360
fleeing. They're going out of traumatic

7451
05:39:34.878 --> 05:39:39.440
places and we have that responsibility

7452
05:39:37.360 --> 05:39:41.600
as a district because this is where they

7453
05:39:39.440 --> 05:39:44.320
call home and they are our neighbors.

7454
05:39:41.600 --> 05:39:47.440
They are our students. Um and so to me I

7455
05:39:44.320 --> 05:39:49.600
am taking that that responsibility um

7456
05:39:47.440 --> 05:39:52.798
very heavily and I know that the next

7457
05:39:49.600 --> 05:39:55.520
step in this is looking at dual language

7458
05:39:52.798 --> 05:39:58.638
and I want to make sure that we are as

7459
05:39:55.520 --> 05:40:02.400
intentional as thoughtful and as engaged

7460
05:39:58.638 --> 05:40:04.558
when we are talking about this other um

7461
05:40:02.400 --> 05:40:07.600
subset of programs that we have within

7462
05:40:04.558 --> 05:40:09.840
our district um because I do want a dual

7463
05:40:07.600 --> 05:40:12.080
language to come to Broomfield. We do

7464
05:40:09.840 --> 05:40:14.320
have a changing landscape uh in that

7465
05:40:12.080 --> 05:40:17.680
area of our district and I want to make

7466
05:40:14.320 --> 05:40:20.480
sure that we are being as thoughtful and

7467
05:40:17.680 --> 05:40:23.040
as engaging and also as considerate as

7468
05:40:20.480 --> 05:40:24.958
we can for the folks that aren't here

7469
05:40:23.040 --> 05:40:27.760
that can't speak for themselves that

7470
05:40:24.958 --> 05:40:31.280
don't know how to maneuver how to email

7471
05:40:27.760 --> 05:40:33.680
the whole board all at once. Um so I am

7472
05:40:31.280 --> 05:40:35.360
very grateful for everyone all the

7473
05:40:33.680 --> 05:40:38.320
answers that you gave the questions that

7474
05:40:35.360 --> 05:40:39.840
you took today. Um, and I am just still

7475
05:40:38.320 --> 05:40:43.840
really thinking through and grounding

7476
05:40:39.840 --> 05:40:46.160
myself in who I was as a BBSD student.

7477
05:40:43.840 --> 05:40:49.040
Um, again to immigrant parents, as a

7478
05:40:46.160 --> 05:40:51.760
first generation citizen that in high

7479
05:40:49.040 --> 05:40:54.320
school I had to navigate on my own

7480
05:40:51.760 --> 05:40:57.040
applying to colleges. Um, looking for

7481
05:40:54.320 --> 05:40:59.280
scholarships. um really a lot of all of

7482
05:40:57.040 --> 05:41:01.520
the other programs that that students

7483
05:40:59.280 --> 05:41:03.600
have to navigate through that a lot of

7484
05:41:01.520 --> 05:41:05.760
our students uh our immigrant students,

7485
05:41:03.600 --> 05:41:07.440
our dual language students sometimes

7486
05:41:05.760 --> 05:41:10.718
have to do it on their own. And I want

7487
05:41:07.440 --> 05:41:13.760
to make sure that we as BVSD are able to

7488
05:41:10.718 --> 05:41:15.920
grow those resources um so that a lot of

7489
05:41:13.760 --> 05:41:18.878
the maybe negative or not best

7490
05:41:15.920 --> 05:41:21.200
experiences that I had as a BVSD alumni,

7491
05:41:18.878 --> 05:41:23.920
we're not passing that on to the next

7492
05:41:21.200 --> 05:41:27.040
generation. And so I I'm just grateful

7493
05:41:23.920 --> 05:41:30.958
that we are being as intentional here.

7494
05:41:27.040 --> 05:41:33.920
Um because the end goal is for me to,

7495
05:41:30.958 --> 05:41:36.798
you know, later on see another Anna that

7496
05:41:33.920 --> 05:41:39.120
graduated BVSSD and then goes and sits

7497
05:41:36.798 --> 05:41:41.760
on the board. Like that is my goal, my

7498
05:41:39.120 --> 05:41:44.558
dream of making sure that we are passing

7499
05:41:41.760 --> 05:41:48.840
along an excellent education uh to our

7500
05:41:44.558 --> 05:41:48.840
students and to our community members.

7501
05:41:51.920 --> 05:41:56.718
Thanks board members. One awkward thing

7502
05:41:53.920 --> 05:41:58.878
sometimes about getting to ask my

7503
05:41:56.718 --> 05:42:00.160
questions last is that it seems kind of

7504
05:41:58.878 --> 05:42:02.798
tonedeaf because you were all giving

7505
05:42:00.160 --> 05:42:06.480
your closing remarks. And I have

7506
05:42:02.798 --> 05:42:10.320
actually a practical question

7507
05:42:06.480 --> 05:42:12.240
that is short and I apologize for that.

7508
05:42:10.320 --> 05:42:14.798
Um but sometimes this is how it shakes

7509
05:42:12.240 --> 05:42:16.958
out. So, on your slide, you did

7510
05:42:14.798 --> 05:42:18.958
reference a 15-minute neighborhood. And

7511
05:42:16.958 --> 05:42:20.558
this has come up a lot, and I've asked

7512
05:42:18.958 --> 05:42:22.558
different Boulder City Council members

7513
05:42:20.558 --> 05:42:24.798
what they think a 15-minute neighborhood

7514
05:42:22.558 --> 05:42:27.920
is, and it turns out that they don't all

7515
05:42:24.798 --> 05:42:29.760
agree. Some think it re it is walking,

7516
05:42:27.920 --> 05:42:32.080
and some think it might include bikes,

7517
05:42:29.760 --> 05:42:34.558
and some think it includes vehicles. And

7518
05:42:32.080 --> 05:42:37.200
so, I'm curious when you um what is a

7519
05:42:34.558 --> 05:42:39.920
15-minute neighborhood to you? Because

7520
05:42:37.200 --> 05:42:41.360
you say we do meet that.

7521
05:42:39.920 --> 05:42:44.240
>> All of the above.

7522
05:42:41.360 --> 05:42:46.320
>> Yeah. Yes, but I mean that's the way we

7523
05:42:44.240 --> 05:42:47.360
understood when we read their comp plan

7524
05:42:46.320 --> 05:42:49.600
that

7525
05:42:47.360 --> 05:42:51.600
>> a school within 15 minutes.

7526
05:42:49.600 --> 05:42:52.958
>> So yes, we feel like we have provided

7527
05:42:51.600 --> 05:42:54.718
that.

7528
05:42:52.958 --> 05:42:56.798
>> Thank you. Because we can get to our

7529
05:42:54.718 --> 05:42:58.798
places 15 minutes on a bus if we need

7530
05:42:56.798 --> 05:43:00.480
to. It doesn't doesn't mean we have to

7531
05:42:58.798 --> 05:43:02.160
be able to walk somewhere because you

7532
05:43:00.480 --> 05:43:04.160
can't really walk an elementary schooler

7533
05:43:02.160 --> 05:43:05.680
cannot walk a mile and a half in 15

7534
05:43:04.160 --> 05:43:08.160
minutes as it stands. And that is our

7535
05:43:05.680 --> 05:43:10.958
walk radius. Thank you for clarifying

7536
05:43:08.160 --> 05:43:13.280
that. Um,

7537
05:43:10.958 --> 05:43:14.558
thank you staff for answering these

7538
05:43:13.280 --> 05:43:15.760
questions. Thank you board members for

7539
05:43:14.558 --> 05:43:19.200
bringing really thoughtful questions

7540
05:43:15.760 --> 05:43:22.080
forward. Um, and to DA allowing the

7541
05:43:19.200 --> 05:43:23.600
delay in process or our our schedule of

7542
05:43:22.080 --> 05:43:26.320
regular board meetings to help this

7543
05:43:23.600 --> 05:43:27.680
happen be

7544
05:43:26.320 --> 05:43:30.160
you no I see you.

7545
05:43:27.680 --> 05:43:32.080
>> Are you sure the I want to make sure

7546
05:43:30.160 --> 05:43:34.798
that we are on the same page on the

7547
05:43:32.080 --> 05:43:36.798
resolution before we do anything else.

7548
05:43:34.798 --> 05:43:38.558
So, I want to make sure we've addressed

7549
05:43:36.798 --> 05:43:40.160
the board member Medler's remarks from

7550
05:43:38.558 --> 05:43:41.760
earlier.

7551
05:43:40.160 --> 05:43:43.600
>> Sorry about that. I felt like closing

7552
05:43:41.760 --> 05:43:46.240
remarks. Yeah, I don't know what the

7553
05:43:43.600 --> 05:43:48.958
right time is to do it, but I would

7554
05:43:46.240 --> 05:43:51.520
propose to add to the resolution

7555
05:43:48.958 --> 05:43:53.760
language that Jorge just reiterated for

7556
05:43:51.520 --> 05:43:56.000
me, which is facilitating the right of

7557
05:43:53.760 --> 05:43:58.080
return for families who've been enrolled

7558
05:43:56.000 --> 05:43:59.600
in one of our focus choice schools

7559
05:43:58.080 --> 05:44:01.520
through this process when the focus

7560
05:43:59.600 --> 05:44:03.760
choice school moves that they don't have

7561
05:44:01.520 --> 05:44:05.440
to open enroll, but that if they let us

7562
05:44:03.760 --> 05:44:06.878
know during the open enrollment period

7563
05:44:05.440 --> 05:44:09.920
that they be reenrolled in their

7564
05:44:06.878 --> 05:44:11.200
neighborhood school uh as a a right

7565
05:44:09.920 --> 05:44:13.040
rather than a part of the open

7566
05:44:11.200 --> 05:44:14.558
enrollment process. us and I'd like to

7567
05:44:13.040 --> 05:44:16.558
see that incorporated into the

7568
05:44:14.558 --> 05:44:18.558
resolution and I'm curious to know what

7569
05:44:16.558 --> 05:44:20.798
the rest of my board members uh feel

7570
05:44:18.558 --> 05:44:23.840
about that. Uh I think it's the right

7571
05:44:20.798 --> 05:44:25.280
thing to do and it will help us fight

7572
05:44:23.840 --> 05:44:27.440
declining enrollment and I don't know

7573
05:44:25.280 --> 05:44:29.680
whether to you know pursue that

7574
05:44:27.440 --> 05:44:31.760
discussion now or make a formal motion

7575
05:44:29.680 --> 05:44:34.080
on the 22nd.

7576
05:44:31.760 --> 05:44:35.840
So, I'm going to jump in here because I

7577
05:44:34.080 --> 05:44:37.520
know we've had this conversation several

7578
05:44:35.840 --> 05:44:39.120
times, particularly most and most

7579
05:44:37.520 --> 05:44:42.080
recently when we updated board policy

7580
05:44:39.120 --> 05:44:44.638
JCC and JCC-R.

7581
05:44:42.080 --> 05:44:46.878
I really do struggle with this proposal

7582
05:44:44.638 --> 05:44:49.520
because it kind of gets into the nuance

7583
05:44:46.878 --> 05:44:51.360
um and my challenge with using guarantee

7584
05:44:49.520 --> 05:44:52.958
when we talk about guaranteeing open

7585
05:44:51.360 --> 05:44:55.200
enrollment spots and we guarantee

7586
05:44:52.958 --> 05:44:57.600
opening having sack spots and we

7587
05:44:55.200 --> 05:44:59.280
guarantee having preschool spots in

7588
05:44:57.600 --> 05:45:04.798
which I mean we can never guarantee

7589
05:44:59.280 --> 05:45:08.000
those things and and because I recall

7590
05:45:04.798 --> 05:45:10.718
what it was like to have students

7591
05:45:08.000 --> 05:45:13.520
in elementary school when all the vast

7592
05:45:10.718 --> 05:45:16.878
majority of our schools were at capacity

7593
05:45:13.520 --> 05:45:18.558
and open enrolling and guaranteeing out

7594
05:45:16.878 --> 05:45:20.240
and guaranteeing them a spot to return

7595
05:45:18.558 --> 05:45:22.638
whenever they wanted would have pushed

7596
05:45:20.240 --> 05:45:24.558
classrooms over thresholds and would

7597
05:45:22.638 --> 05:45:26.638
have created conditions in which we

7598
05:45:24.558 --> 05:45:28.080
couldn't try to we couldn't always do

7599
05:45:26.638 --> 05:45:30.000
what we're trying to accomplish now

7600
05:45:28.080 --> 05:45:32.878
which is having manageable class sizes

7601
05:45:30.000 --> 05:45:36.160
and not going over in rounds. And so I

7602
05:45:32.878 --> 05:45:38.160
do struggle a little bit and um with

7603
05:45:36.160 --> 05:45:40.240
that idea and I know what you're what

7604
05:45:38.160 --> 05:45:42.080
you really want, Alex, is for that to be

7605
05:45:40.240 --> 05:45:44.240
a permanent solution, not part of a

7606
05:45:42.080 --> 05:45:46.400
one-time resolution. And so I also would

7607
05:45:44.240 --> 05:45:48.718
question the utility of putting it in a

7608
05:45:46.400 --> 05:45:51.040
one-time resolution versus making a

7609
05:45:48.718 --> 05:45:53.360
change to a policy because this policy,

7610
05:45:51.040 --> 05:45:55.600
the resolution does not change any of

7611
05:45:53.360 --> 05:45:58.080
the policy language included with it. It

7612
05:45:55.600 --> 05:46:00.240
is just addressing the changes for next

7613
05:45:58.080 --> 05:46:01.680
year alone. And so I think you're trying

7614
05:46:00.240 --> 05:46:03.280
to accomplish two different things

7615
05:46:01.680 --> 05:46:05.200
because I know you've asked before for

7616
05:46:03.280 --> 05:46:08.718
this to be a permanent change. The

7617
05:46:05.200 --> 05:46:10.638
resolution is between now and next year.

7618
05:46:08.718 --> 05:46:13.200
It is a one-year only. It is not a

7619
05:46:10.638 --> 05:46:15.520
permanent maneuver.

7620
05:46:13.200 --> 05:46:18.320
So those are my two comments on that and

7621
05:46:15.520 --> 05:46:22.040
then I'll entertain. I saw Lenius Hankup

7622
05:46:18.320 --> 05:46:22.040
and other members of the board.

7623
05:46:22.558 --> 05:46:26.878
Uh, I would be in favor of doing it the

7624
05:46:24.558 --> 05:46:29.520
one year only and then bringing it

7625
05:46:26.878 --> 05:46:31.600
forward to the board for discussion if

7626
05:46:29.520 --> 05:46:34.240
we're going to do a policy change. I

7627
05:46:31.600 --> 05:46:37.760
understand your point of doing it in

7628
05:46:34.240 --> 05:46:39.760
this particular case. Um, and I would

7629
05:46:37.760 --> 05:46:42.000
never want to just say, okay, we're

7630
05:46:39.760 --> 05:46:44.160
going to change the policy without

7631
05:46:42.000 --> 05:46:47.480
having the standard debate that we would

7632
05:46:44.160 --> 05:46:47.480
need to have.

7633
05:46:48.878 --> 05:46:51.360
Alex.

7634
05:46:49.600 --> 05:46:53.120
>> Yeah, I really appreciate that point and

7635
05:46:51.360 --> 05:46:54.718
I appreciate the previous deliberations

7636
05:46:53.120 --> 05:46:56.718
the board, this board and the previous

7637
05:46:54.718 --> 05:46:58.320
one have had on this topic. I will add

7638
05:46:56.718 --> 05:47:00.480
that in this circumstance, we're talking

7639
05:46:58.320 --> 05:47:02.240
about choice schools that are moving and

7640
05:47:00.480 --> 05:47:04.798
so people enrolled in a school that was

7641
05:47:02.240 --> 05:47:07.920
one place uh and now one of them is

7642
05:47:04.798 --> 05:47:09.440
actually moving pretty far. And so um

7643
05:47:07.920 --> 05:47:11.200
and it's not very many students that

7644
05:47:09.440 --> 05:47:13.200
we're affecting and I'm not suggesting

7645
05:47:11.200 --> 05:47:15.120
that they have a right that someone else

7646
05:47:13.200 --> 05:47:16.558
doesn't have. If you move into our

7647
05:47:15.120 --> 05:47:18.878
neighborhood in July, you get to go

7648
05:47:16.558 --> 05:47:21.200
there in August. If you move in, if you

7649
05:47:18.878 --> 05:47:22.558
return from private education after open

7650
05:47:21.200 --> 05:47:24.080
enrollment period and say, "I'm here

7651
05:47:22.558 --> 05:47:26.080
now. I live in this neighborhood and you

7652
05:47:24.080 --> 05:47:27.680
show up, you have a right to go there."

7653
05:47:26.080 --> 05:47:29.120
I'm suggesting that the parents who've

7654
05:47:27.680 --> 05:47:30.958
enrolled in a private school that's now

7655
05:47:29.120 --> 05:47:32.878
being relocated 6 miles away from where

7656
05:47:30.958 --> 05:47:34.718
it was when they chose it should have

7657
05:47:32.878 --> 05:47:36.958
the same right as someone who just moved

7658
05:47:34.718 --> 05:47:38.480
in from California to go to their

7659
05:47:36.958 --> 05:47:40.558
neighborhood school and should have the

7660
05:47:38.480 --> 05:47:42.320
same right as someone who was enrolled

7661
05:47:40.558 --> 05:47:44.320
in a private school. So, the idea that

7662
05:47:42.320 --> 05:47:46.400
we're giving an enrollment preference to

7663
05:47:44.320 --> 05:47:48.080
people who are homeschooling and private

7664
05:47:46.400 --> 05:47:49.520
schooling over people who live in that

7665
05:47:48.080 --> 05:47:52.160
neighborhood and who've been enrolled in

7666
05:47:49.520 --> 05:47:55.440
a BBSD school, that's that's upside down

7667
05:47:52.160 --> 05:47:57.840
for me. And and I feel strongly that

7668
05:47:55.440 --> 05:48:00.400
we're trying to we're trying to reduce

7669
05:47:57.840 --> 05:48:02.638
people leaving the system. So, the fact

7670
05:48:00.400 --> 05:48:04.558
that they would have to give notice

7671
05:48:02.638 --> 05:48:06.000
actually, you know, 5 months earlier

7672
05:48:04.558 --> 05:48:08.160
than the people who move in or those

7673
05:48:06.000 --> 05:48:10.000
that return from private education is

7674
05:48:08.160 --> 05:48:11.840
also worth taking into consideration.

7675
05:48:10.000 --> 05:48:13.760
So, it's not a special privilege. It's

7676
05:48:11.840 --> 05:48:15.600
actually a delayed access to something

7677
05:48:13.760 --> 05:48:17.760
that other people we privilege ahead of

7678
05:48:15.600 --> 05:48:19.840
them. And by doing that, we reduce the

7679
05:48:17.760 --> 05:48:22.000
number of people who feel compelled to

7680
05:48:19.840 --> 05:48:23.280
leave our district. Um, they've already

7681
05:48:22.000 --> 05:48:25.600
exercised choice because they didn't

7682
05:48:23.280 --> 05:48:27.760
want to be somewhere. And we have a lot

7683
05:48:25.600 --> 05:48:30.480
of people with the ability to, you know,

7684
05:48:27.760 --> 05:48:31.840
to leave. So, I I think this is a great

7685
05:48:30.480 --> 05:48:34.080
time to do it. It's different than

7686
05:48:31.840 --> 05:48:36.080
normal. I love the opportunity to

7687
05:48:34.080 --> 05:48:36.958
discuss it as a broader policy change

7688
05:48:36.080 --> 05:48:38.878
because I just think it's the right

7689
05:48:36.958 --> 05:48:40.878
thing to do for kids in our community.

7690
05:48:38.878 --> 05:48:42.160
But um I don't apologize for bringing it

7691
05:48:40.878 --> 05:48:44.240
up through this vehicle because I feel

7692
05:48:42.160 --> 05:48:46.638
like the the relocation of those focus

7693
05:48:44.240 --> 05:48:48.240
schools makes it even more compelling to

7694
05:48:46.638 --> 05:48:49.280
me that we should do it at least in this

7695
05:48:48.240 --> 05:48:50.798
case.

7696
05:48:49.280 --> 05:48:52.400
>> So are you saying that it would only

7697
05:48:50.798 --> 05:48:55.280
apply to students that are currently

7698
05:48:52.400 --> 05:48:57.120
enrolled in community monastery in high

7699
05:48:55.280 --> 05:48:58.558
peaks

7700
05:48:57.120 --> 05:49:00.480
because that's very different than

7701
05:48:58.558 --> 05:49:02.798
saying like any student that open

7702
05:49:00.480 --> 05:49:05.840
enrolled to a different school and now

7703
05:49:02.798 --> 05:49:07.600
wants to go back. Let's say I open

7704
05:49:05.840 --> 05:49:08.718
enrolled into Uni Hill and I have

7705
05:49:07.600 --> 05:49:11.600
questions about what's going to happen

7706
05:49:08.718 --> 05:49:13.280
and so now I want to go back to Foothill

7707
05:49:11.600 --> 05:49:15.760
or go back to somewhere else where there

7708
05:49:13.280 --> 05:49:18.000
might already be at capacity challenges

7709
05:49:15.760 --> 05:49:18.958
like that's my wondering like who who

7710
05:49:18.000 --> 05:49:21.840
does this apply to

7711
05:49:18.958 --> 05:49:24.000
>> so thank you that's let me clarify I do

7712
05:49:21.840 --> 05:49:25.440
believe in this case it is basically the

7713
05:49:24.000 --> 05:49:28.400
people who have open enrolled in a

7714
05:49:25.440 --> 05:49:30.558
community monastery in high peaks um the

7715
05:49:28.400 --> 05:49:32.080
people who have are enrolled in our

7716
05:49:30.558 --> 05:49:34.080
other affected schools are being

7717
05:49:32.080 --> 05:49:35.680
assigned to their catchment zone and

7718
05:49:34.080 --> 05:49:37.440
have an enrollment right to enroll in

7719
05:49:35.680 --> 05:49:39.600
the place we're assigning them. No one

7720
05:49:37.440 --> 05:49:41.280
who's being assigned to a catchment zone

7721
05:49:39.600 --> 05:49:44.240
has to go through open enrollment to go

7722
05:49:41.280 --> 05:49:46.240
to that school uh a year from now. The

7723
05:49:44.240 --> 05:49:48.320
ones who've been o that are being

7724
05:49:46.240 --> 05:49:50.160
relocated because they've chosen a focus

7725
05:49:48.320 --> 05:49:51.760
school that was in a location and

7726
05:49:50.160 --> 05:49:53.520
location is a big part of why I chose

7727
05:49:51.760 --> 05:49:56.558
community monastery when I sent my kids

7728
05:49:53.520 --> 05:49:59.280
there. The they uh deserve to have the

7729
05:49:56.558 --> 05:50:01.040
same right as anybody who is at Douglas

7730
05:49:59.280 --> 05:50:02.958
that wants to go to the school that

7731
05:50:01.040 --> 05:50:05.040
they're assigned to. Right? So they're

7732
05:50:02.958 --> 05:50:07.520
assigned to a school but they don't have

7733
05:50:05.040 --> 05:50:08.878
a right to go to it because they made a

7734
05:50:07.520 --> 05:50:10.480
choice and they made a choice of

7735
05:50:08.878 --> 05:50:13.120
something that we offered them somewhere

7736
05:50:10.480 --> 05:50:15.280
else. So yeah, community monastery high

7737
05:50:13.120 --> 05:50:17.440
peaks parents who would like to return

7738
05:50:15.280 --> 05:50:19.600
to their school of residents who notify

7739
05:50:17.440 --> 05:50:21.760
us within the open enrollment period. I

7740
05:50:19.600 --> 05:50:22.958
say we enroll them and treat them like

7741
05:50:21.760 --> 05:50:24.400
somebody who moved into that

7742
05:50:22.958 --> 05:50:26.718
neighborhood uh before the open

7743
05:50:24.400 --> 05:50:28.480
enrollment period. Can we put the

7744
05:50:26.718 --> 05:50:31.600
resolution language on there because I

7745
05:50:28.480 --> 05:50:34.558
want to um this gets to the be it

7746
05:50:31.600 --> 05:50:39.240
further resolved implementation of JCCR

7747
05:50:34.558 --> 05:50:39.240
the second bullet under there

7748
05:50:43.520 --> 05:50:47.200
>> as you're pulling that up board members

7749
05:50:45.520 --> 05:50:52.240
and thinking about preparing for next

7750
05:50:47.200 --> 05:50:54.000
week I think um you know the question

7751
05:50:52.240 --> 05:50:56.638
that I think we have to answer if this

7752
05:50:54.000 --> 05:50:58.638
is something that the board would would

7753
05:50:56.638 --> 05:51:00.638
want to take action on. We can bring two

7754
05:50:58.638 --> 05:51:02.718
resolutions. The resolution resolution

7755
05:51:00.638 --> 05:51:04.798
as it stands with the adjustments here

7756
05:51:02.718 --> 05:51:09.040
and then a res resolution that adds this

7757
05:51:04.798 --> 05:51:11.440
language. Uh the question just to

7758
05:51:09.040 --> 05:51:13.680
clarify, are we talking that these

7759
05:51:11.440 --> 05:51:17.600
students would have to notify us prior

7760
05:51:13.680 --> 05:51:20.320
to the open enrollment window closing?

7761
05:51:17.600 --> 05:51:22.878
If you were to do that, then what you

7762
05:51:20.320 --> 05:51:26.000
would do is it would clarify you would

7763
05:51:22.878 --> 05:51:28.160
um you would allow us to know and

7764
05:51:26.000 --> 05:51:30.718
understand more accurately what seats

7765
05:51:28.160 --> 05:51:33.280
are open and open enrollment and then we

7766
05:51:30.718 --> 05:51:34.958
would not like take those opportunities

7767
05:51:33.280 --> 05:51:38.558
away from other folks holding it back

7768
05:51:34.958 --> 05:51:40.718
because we didn't know. Um and so and so

7769
05:51:38.558 --> 05:51:42.638
that would be like above your priority

7770
05:51:40.718 --> 05:51:45.920
preference. It wouldn't necessarily be

7771
05:51:42.638 --> 05:51:47.840
part of of open enrollment. It would be,

7772
05:51:45.920 --> 05:51:49.040
listen, if you tell us by this date you

7773
05:51:47.840 --> 05:51:50.558
want to go back to your neighborhood

7774
05:51:49.040 --> 05:51:53.600
school, we're going to treat you like a

7775
05:51:50.558 --> 05:51:56.320
resident student. And uh and we could

7776
05:51:53.600 --> 05:51:59.200
write language that that would that

7777
05:51:56.320 --> 05:52:01.120
would would allow that to happen. Um we

7778
05:51:59.200 --> 05:52:05.040
could communicate to those families

7779
05:52:01.120 --> 05:52:07.040
directly. I'm looking at the team um to

7780
05:52:05.040 --> 05:52:09.440
say this is your option or your choice

7781
05:52:07.040 --> 05:52:11.680
by this close of business, this date.

7782
05:52:09.440 --> 05:52:14.798
You need to let us know um if that's

7783
05:52:11.680 --> 05:52:16.558
what you're going to be doing. and then

7784
05:52:14.798 --> 05:52:19.440
those families would make that choice.

7785
05:52:16.558 --> 05:52:22.638
But what they wouldn't be able to do is

7786
05:52:19.440 --> 05:52:24.080
try to go into uh use their priority

7787
05:52:22.638 --> 05:52:25.600
enrollment preference and open

7788
05:52:24.080 --> 05:52:27.520
enrollment

7789
05:52:25.600 --> 05:52:28.798
uh and then if they didn't get what they

7790
05:52:27.520 --> 05:52:30.558
want say I want to go back to my

7791
05:52:28.798 --> 05:52:32.558
neighborhood school. It would it would

7792
05:52:30.558 --> 05:52:34.480
it would have to be prior to that. I

7793
05:52:32.558 --> 05:52:35.760
mean I'm I'm just thinking out loud as

7794
05:52:34.480 --> 05:52:36.558
is making sure I'm hearing what it is

7795
05:52:35.760 --> 05:52:38.798
you're asking.

7796
05:52:36.558 --> 05:52:43.798
>> But wouldn't then we give that right to

7797
05:52:38.798 --> 05:52:43.798
guarantee before open enrollment to any

7798
05:52:46.080 --> 05:52:50.638
So they're already going to have the

7799
05:52:48.558 --> 05:52:53.120
opportunity. They're already everybody

7800
05:52:50.638 --> 05:52:54.878
who's impacted community monatory um

7801
05:52:53.120 --> 05:52:57.600
families, high peaks families are going

7802
05:52:54.878 --> 05:52:59.440
to have this priority choice preference.

7803
05:52:57.600 --> 05:53:01.440
They're already going to have that,

7804
05:52:59.440 --> 05:53:03.840
right? What I'm hearing board member

7805
05:53:01.440 --> 05:53:06.480
Medler say is if they want to go back to

7806
05:53:03.840 --> 05:53:08.320
their neighborhood school, right, then

7807
05:53:06.480 --> 05:53:10.000
we should treat them like anybody who

7808
05:53:08.320 --> 05:53:12.160
would come from some other choice

7809
05:53:10.000 --> 05:53:14.160
besides BVSD, home school, private

7810
05:53:12.160 --> 05:53:17.040
school, online school, whatever, where

7811
05:53:14.160 --> 05:53:19.200
we give them that opportunity. The trick

7812
05:53:17.040 --> 05:53:21.360
is is if you give them the opportunity

7813
05:53:19.200 --> 05:53:22.480
and the preference,

7814
05:53:21.360 --> 05:53:24.080
right, they don't have to use their

7815
05:53:22.480 --> 05:53:25.440
preference on their home school. They

7816
05:53:24.080 --> 05:53:26.878
would use the preference on something

7817
05:53:25.440 --> 05:53:28.320
and then if it was filled then they

7818
05:53:26.878 --> 05:53:30.320
could use the home school. So, so I'm

7819
05:53:28.320 --> 05:53:31.680
just trying to understand if it's to get

7820
05:53:30.320 --> 05:53:33.120
back to your neighborhood school, I

7821
05:53:31.680 --> 05:53:35.280
think you would do that prior to the

7822
05:53:33.120 --> 05:53:37.760
process, which makes the most sense to

7823
05:53:35.280 --> 05:53:41.040
me, but then when you do that, you give

7824
05:53:37.760 --> 05:53:43.760
up your priority choice open enrollment.

7825
05:53:41.040 --> 05:53:45.600
>> Yeah, you'd wave that.

7826
05:53:43.760 --> 05:53:47.760
>> I I agree that the way you characterized

7827
05:53:45.600 --> 05:53:49.840
it. And just let me be clear, if you're

7828
05:53:47.760 --> 05:53:52.080
in any of other our other affected

7829
05:53:49.840 --> 05:53:54.080
schools, you are guaranteed enrollment

7830
05:53:52.080 --> 05:53:55.680
in the place where you're assigned. The

7831
05:53:54.080 --> 05:53:57.760
only people who are not guaranteed

7832
05:53:55.680 --> 05:53:59.520
enrollment

7833
05:53:57.760 --> 05:54:02.558
uh in the place where they are assigned

7834
05:53:59.520 --> 05:54:04.958
by residents are the people uh who chose

7835
05:54:02.558 --> 05:54:07.680
community monastery and high peaks. So

7836
05:54:04.958 --> 05:54:10.080
this is giving them the same right of

7837
05:54:07.680 --> 05:54:11.760
everybody else to attend the school that

7838
05:54:10.080 --> 05:54:15.000
they're assigned to after we've made all

7839
05:54:11.760 --> 05:54:15.000
these changes.

7840
05:54:21.440 --> 05:54:25.040
>> Yes. and it puts them above the priority

7841
05:54:23.520 --> 05:54:27.520
for anybody else that's been disrupted

7842
05:54:25.040 --> 05:54:30.520
in this process and that's like the the

7843
05:54:27.520 --> 05:54:30.520
lottery.

7844
05:54:32.878 --> 05:54:40.480
So, can you um can you draft

7845
05:54:38.240 --> 05:54:43.200
language that the staff could then

7846
05:54:40.480 --> 05:54:46.320
incorporate like what because we cannot

7847
05:54:43.200 --> 05:54:48.000
if you have pro per if you have if we

7848
05:54:46.320 --> 05:54:50.878
follow Dr. Anderson's plan of bringing

7849
05:54:48.000 --> 05:54:53.600
forth two resolutions and this is just a

7850
05:54:50.878 --> 05:54:55.200
cumbersome exercise on like we have to

7851
05:54:53.600 --> 05:54:57.920
approve one or not but we might have to

7852
05:54:55.200 --> 05:55:00.400
vote on two. Um I would need language

7853
05:54:57.920 --> 05:55:01.840
that we can understand today to be able

7854
05:55:00.400 --> 05:55:04.958
to bring that forward on a day where we

7855
05:55:01.840 --> 05:55:07.760
are f acting as final decision makers. I

7856
05:55:04.958 --> 05:55:09.440
don't want to deliberate over words on a

7857
05:55:07.760 --> 05:55:12.080
day where we have to make final action.

7858
05:55:09.440 --> 05:55:15.920
So, can you put forth a pro um proposed

7859
05:55:12.080 --> 05:55:18.480
language to accomplish what you are um

7860
05:55:15.920 --> 05:55:20.638
trying to accomplish

7861
05:55:18.480 --> 05:55:21.760
>> uh right now? You want me to?

7862
05:55:20.638 --> 05:55:25.240
>> I do want that right now.

7863
05:55:21.760 --> 05:55:25.240
>> Give me two minutes.

7864
05:56:31.040 --> 05:56:35.920
adding the new one that's no longer the

7865
05:56:33.440 --> 05:56:35.920
final clause.

7866
05:56:38.558 --> 05:56:43.520
All right. If I may, um, what I'm

7867
05:56:40.798 --> 05:56:45.760
proposing is a motion that says that

7868
05:56:43.520 --> 05:56:48.718
students enrolled in High Peaks or

7869
05:56:45.760 --> 05:56:50.320
Community Monastery, uh, sorry, families

7870
05:56:48.718 --> 05:56:51.680
of students enrolled in High Peaks or

7871
05:56:50.320 --> 05:56:53.680
Community Monastery that prefer to

7872
05:56:51.680 --> 05:56:56.160
enroll in their assigned neighborhood

7873
05:56:53.680 --> 05:56:58.160
school rather than attend their focus

7874
05:56:56.160 --> 05:56:59.920
school in its new location and who

7875
05:56:58.160 --> 05:57:03.680
notify the district of that decision

7876
05:56:59.920 --> 05:57:05.840
prior to the open enrollment. uh end

7877
05:57:03.680 --> 05:57:07.760
deadline or we can insert the date will

7878
05:57:05.840 --> 05:57:09.760
be enrolled directly in their assigned

7879
05:57:07.760 --> 05:57:11.600
neighborhood school according to their

7880
05:57:09.760 --> 05:57:13.120
residents. These families will not have

7881
05:57:11.600 --> 05:57:14.480
the priority preference to apply to

7882
05:57:13.120 --> 05:57:17.520
another school through the open

7883
05:57:14.480 --> 05:57:23.240
enrollment process afterwards for the

7884
05:57:17.520 --> 05:57:23.240
for the year the 202728 school year.

7885
05:57:24.638 --> 05:57:30.080
Do we know

7886
05:57:27.680 --> 05:57:34.080
is that possible for us to manage in

7887
05:57:30.080 --> 05:57:37.200
school mint? Like does can school mint

7888
05:57:34.080 --> 05:57:38.400
wave for flag anybody that has said they

7889
05:57:37.200 --> 05:57:40.000
wanted to wave their right and then

7890
05:57:38.400 --> 05:57:42.240
decided to try to open a role again?

7891
05:57:40.000 --> 05:57:45.240
Like does the system allow for that to

7892
05:57:42.240 --> 05:57:45.240
happen?

7893
05:57:47.760 --> 05:57:55.440
>> Check on that specifically. Um but I

7894
05:57:53.120 --> 05:57:58.718
believe there It would be helpful if

7895
05:57:55.440 --> 05:58:02.798
there was a little space in between the

7896
05:57:58.718 --> 05:58:06.958
notification and the end. Um, December

7897
05:58:02.798 --> 05:58:11.200
10th, whatever something um that that

7898
05:58:06.958 --> 05:58:12.080
would give us the opportunity to

7899
05:58:11.200 --> 05:58:14.480
identify.

7900
05:58:12.080 --> 05:58:17.920
>> Oh, microphone. I take as a friendly

7901
05:58:14.480 --> 05:58:20.638
amendment any prior deadline before that

7902
05:58:17.920 --> 05:58:23.440
that uh would give us enough time to

7903
05:58:20.638 --> 05:58:25.200
implement the open enrollment system and

7904
05:58:23.440 --> 05:58:26.878
code these families appropriately.

7905
05:58:25.200 --> 05:58:28.638
Again, for my colleagues on the board,

7906
05:58:26.878 --> 05:58:29.920
this is not a large number of families

7907
05:58:28.638 --> 05:58:31.680
that we're talking about that I

7908
05:58:29.920 --> 05:58:33.040
anticipate. Um I don't know how many

7909
05:58:31.680 --> 05:58:34.798
from high peaks, but for community

7910
05:58:33.040 --> 05:58:37.920
monosuri, I don't think it'll be that

7911
05:58:34.798 --> 05:58:39.440
many. But uh I I I think it it probably

7912
05:58:37.920 --> 05:58:41.200
wouldn't be that administratively

7913
05:58:39.440 --> 05:58:43.200
burdensome if we have a few days to

7914
05:58:41.200 --> 05:58:44.400
figure out how to code people. We've we

7915
05:58:43.200 --> 05:58:46.000
code them for lots of other things

7916
05:58:44.400 --> 05:58:47.840
previously like everybody who came from

7917
05:58:46.000 --> 05:58:49.360
a charter school with a legacy admission

7918
05:58:47.840 --> 05:58:50.878
got coded separately as coming from

7919
05:58:49.360 --> 05:58:53.200
there and had separate enrollment

7920
05:58:50.878 --> 05:58:57.638
preferences applied. So I'm assuming our

7921
05:58:53.200 --> 05:58:57.638
system is robust to this kind of change.

7922
05:59:02.000 --> 05:59:06.878
Alec, I will leave it to staff to double

7923
05:59:04.718 --> 05:59:10.000
check like making making sure that any

7924
05:59:06.878 --> 05:59:11.520
proposed language is accomplishable and

7925
05:59:10.000 --> 05:59:13.680
um

7926
05:59:11.520 --> 05:59:14.958
sort of like between the last proposal

7927
05:59:13.680 --> 05:59:16.400
and today that like you're

7928
05:59:14.958 --> 05:59:18.080
double-checking to make sure you can

7929
05:59:16.400 --> 05:59:21.200
accomplish it and that we're not putting

7930
05:59:18.080 --> 05:59:25.878
something forth that we can not manage

7931
05:59:21.200 --> 05:59:25.878
effectively or that creates undue

7932
05:59:26.080 --> 05:59:33.200
I mean challenges to what the team has

7933
05:59:29.520 --> 05:59:33.200
laid out or the system itself.

7934
05:59:34.558 --> 05:59:38.958
I would like to see the resolution

7935
05:59:36.320 --> 05:59:41.440
brought forward. I think everything

7936
05:59:38.958 --> 05:59:43.840
we're talking about creates undue burden

7937
05:59:41.440 --> 05:59:48.040
on tons of people. So, I wouldn't apply

7938
05:59:43.840 --> 05:59:48.040
a different standard to this proposal.

7939
05:59:51.360 --> 05:59:54.320
>> I'm just checking with our team. Do we

7940
05:59:52.798 --> 05:59:58.798
have the the proposed language that

7941
05:59:54.320 --> 06:00:00.320
board member Medler shared?

7942
05:59:58.798 --> 06:00:02.000
>> Okay. If we can get that, then we'll

7943
06:00:00.320 --> 06:00:03.840
verify that we can make sure that that

7944
06:00:02.000 --> 06:00:07.920
happens. We'll confer with staff on what

7945
06:00:03.840 --> 06:00:09.600
the date would be um in terms of when

7946
06:00:07.920 --> 06:00:11.280
folks would have to make that decision

7947
06:00:09.600 --> 06:00:12.718
decision prior to open enrollment. So

7948
06:00:11.280 --> 06:00:15.600
then we could code those folks as

7949
06:00:12.718 --> 06:00:19.040
resident as you know resident students

7950
06:00:15.600 --> 06:00:20.480
and then um and then move forward.

7951
06:00:19.040 --> 06:00:24.080
Then board members will have two

7952
06:00:20.480 --> 06:00:28.000
proposals for you to ready for your um

7953
06:00:24.080 --> 06:00:31.000
deliberation and um and and vote on the

7954
06:00:28.000 --> 06:00:31.000
22nd.

7955
06:00:31.280 --> 06:00:34.958
>> Rob Price, just you added the semicolon

7956
06:00:33.600 --> 06:00:36.638
and comma. You just got to make sure you

7957
06:00:34.958 --> 06:00:40.240
delete it from the one above it.

7958
06:00:36.638 --> 06:00:42.080
>> Thank you, Lolia.

7959
06:00:40.240 --> 06:00:46.320
>> Slightly confused about if we have two

7960
06:00:42.080 --> 06:00:48.558
proposals coming forward. Um, so then

7961
06:00:46.320 --> 06:00:50.718
one would have this resolution, the

7962
06:00:48.558 --> 06:00:53.840
other wouldn't.

7963
06:00:50.718 --> 06:00:56.000
>> One would have that bullet. Okay.

7964
06:00:53.840 --> 06:00:56.638
>> The whereas or it's a bullet here.

7965
06:00:56.000 --> 06:00:58.638
>> Sorry, I can't.

7966
06:00:56.638 --> 06:01:02.080
>> And one wouldn't. It's kind of like

7967
06:00:58.638 --> 06:01:03.920
Lenia when we voted on attendance

7968
06:01:02.080 --> 06:01:06.080
boundary changes and there were there

7969
06:01:03.920 --> 06:01:08.480
was a motion put forward for one then

7970
06:01:06.080 --> 06:01:10.638
there was a vote

7971
06:01:08.480 --> 06:01:12.878
that first one happened at that time to

7972
06:01:10.638 --> 06:01:14.798
not pass. Then we moved on to approve

7973
06:01:12.878 --> 06:01:17.280
the motion for the second one. That one

7974
06:01:14.798 --> 06:01:18.718
passed. Inverse could happen here, but

7975
06:01:17.280 --> 06:01:20.558
you have to kind of go through whoever

7976
06:01:18.718 --> 06:01:22.480
makes the motion on the first one.

7977
06:01:20.558 --> 06:01:25.920
There's discussion on the first one that

7978
06:01:22.480 --> 06:01:27.600
gets voted on. If it does not pass, then

7979
06:01:25.920 --> 06:01:33.040
you go on to the second one. So, it's

7980
06:01:27.600 --> 06:01:35.760
just like a operational thing for for

7981
06:01:33.040 --> 06:01:38.160
Does that make sense?

7982
06:01:35.760 --> 06:01:41.200
>> Yeah.

7983
06:01:38.160 --> 06:01:43.040
Any other discussions board members?

7984
06:01:41.200 --> 06:01:45.280
Dian,

7985
06:01:43.040 --> 06:01:51.680
>> as a final comment, I just want to say

7986
06:01:45.280 --> 06:01:54.320
that um that uh I wasn't part of the the

7987
06:01:51.680 --> 06:01:58.080
board decision that said we're going to

7988
06:01:54.320 --> 06:02:00.638
move focused schools outside of the

7989
06:01:58.080 --> 06:02:03.680
central Boulder. Um that was something a

7990
06:02:00.638 --> 06:02:06.718
decision you made before. Um, and I take

7991
06:02:03.680 --> 06:02:09.120
issue with the fact that we are taking

7992
06:02:06.718 --> 06:02:12.798
people out of a school and putting a

7993
06:02:09.120 --> 06:02:18.000
focused school in. Um, I don't think

7994
06:02:12.798 --> 06:02:20.400
that that is the focus of what BVSD is.

7995
06:02:18.000 --> 06:02:23.280
I don't think core knowledge should be

7996
06:02:20.400 --> 06:02:26.718
the focus of what BVSD is. And I think

7997
06:02:23.280 --> 06:02:30.000
that decision will be damaging to the

7998
06:02:26.718 --> 06:02:33.040
students at um Douglas who are going to

7999
06:02:30.000 --> 06:02:36.320
get the message that those kids are more

8000
06:02:33.040 --> 06:02:42.480
important than you. And so I take it I

8001
06:02:36.320 --> 06:02:45.520
take um I take that as uh my truth. And

8002
06:02:42.480 --> 06:02:47.520
um Alex and I had a funny discussion on

8003
06:02:45.520 --> 06:02:48.878
the phone the other day where we were we

8004
06:02:47.520 --> 06:02:52.718
were trying to argue about whose

8005
06:02:48.878 --> 06:02:55.840
district was impacted the most.

8006
06:02:52.718 --> 06:02:59.280
Not that it mattered at all, but um my

8007
06:02:55.840 --> 06:03:03.520
district was and the borderlands between

8008
06:02:59.280 --> 06:03:06.558
Boulder and Lewisville um impacted

8009
06:03:03.520 --> 06:03:08.558
pretty hard and uh the students are

8010
06:03:06.558 --> 06:03:11.680
going to have to adjust and I'll be

8011
06:03:08.558 --> 06:03:14.878
looking forward to what kind of um what

8012
06:03:11.680 --> 06:03:17.680
kind of help we can provide in order to

8013
06:03:14.878 --> 06:03:21.280
maintain the communities

8014
06:03:17.680 --> 06:03:25.680
that are more important than the school.

8015
06:03:21.280 --> 06:03:29.440
itself. So I I hope that we can identify

8016
06:03:25.680 --> 06:03:35.200
ways to keep the communities together

8017
06:03:29.440 --> 06:03:38.440
even if the schools are um split. So

8018
06:03:35.200 --> 06:03:38.440
that's all.

8019
06:03:40.000 --> 06:03:45.280
>> Well, board members, it is approaching

8020
06:03:41.680 --> 06:03:48.000
3:00, the end of the school day for some

8021
06:03:45.280 --> 06:03:51.200
of our elementary school students. Looks

8022
06:03:48.000 --> 06:03:55.120
like we have no

8023
06:03:51.200 --> 06:03:58.320
way to pick up. I know. Um, thank you

8024
06:03:55.120 --> 06:04:00.878
team. Thank you board members. I look

8025
06:03:58.320 --> 06:04:05.320
forward to seeing you all in a week.

8026
06:04:00.878 --> 06:04:05.320
With that, today's meeting is adjourned.